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Posted on 03.13.06 by Nick Lindauer @ 1:22 pm | Comments: |
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HSBers - Here’s an idea that I’m kicking around:
A category on collectible bottles. Sounds simple enough right?

Each post will feature one collectible bottle with details such as:

  • When it was made.
  • How many were made.
  • Information on different editions.
  • Approx. Value & Initial cost.
  • Pictures!
  • Anything else we should include? Remember - this section will be about the bottles, not individual collections. The goal is to create an area where folks can find out more information on collectible bottles that they may not know about.

My inspiration for a category like this came from a discussion I had during the Fiery Foods Show where a new collector didn’t know there was a 2004 Halloween Reserve (made by Blair). CaJohn has recently been kind enough to enlighten us on the differences between certain editions of his Statue of Liberty Bottles - but wouldn’t it be nice to have all “collectible” bottles documented in one place?

Obvious collectible bottles include Blair’s Reserves, Dave’s Private Reserves, CaJohn’s Signed Bottles, Defcon Zeros - but there are many many more out there that folks collect. There will be some debate on what makes certain bottles “collectible” - it’s open to interpertation. This category will not define what makes a bottle a collectible, but it will become a resource for folks that want more information on certain bottles. Make sense?

What else should each post include beyond what is listed above?


Chilehead Comments:
Posted by: Nick Lindauer - Categories: Hot Sauce Collector's Corner, Hot Sauce Stuff
Permalink: Collectible Bottles Category

One year ago: 2005 Fiery Foods Show - Day 3

59 Comments »

Comment #1:
Comment by Mad_Reilly (766) - 3/13/2006 @ 1:27 pm | [ Quote ]

Sounds like a good idea. Will take alot of research toough. I didn’t know there was different versions of 2am

Comment #2:
Comment by Adam2 (282) - 3/13/2006 @ 1:35 pm | [ Quote ]

This is an awesome idea! It seems to me that you included just about everything people would really want to know about a bottle - maybe list places that the bottle is available, if it is still available. This sounds really exciting though, I love reading about new sauces!

Comment #3:
Comment by Cheffy (401) - 3/13/2006 @ 1:37 pm | [ Quote ]

Great idea!!! What about these ideas,
1. Manfacturer info. and history of same.
2. Reason for special edition ie… in memory of a loved one, for a son etc….
3. Where made, and any special feature ie…Italian wax, hand blown bottle etc…
Just some thoughts. This will be a great resource for us and other collectors.

Comment #4:
Comment by Mad_Reilly (766) - 3/13/2006 @ 1:55 pm | [ Quote ]

Cheffy I agree because alot of sauces out there came from the same Mfg plant. It’s the same sauce just a different label.

Comment #5:
Comment by MSK (590) - 3/13/2006 @ 2:33 pm | [ Quote ]

I’ve no doubt this section could serve a very useful purpose. Although…if we don’t keep it clean of banter it’ll become bogged into uselessness. I’m as guilty as the next person so please don’t take it wrong when I say, if we treat it like a chat room, it will become one.

Comment #6:
Comment by Nick (1014) - 3/13/2006 @ 2:41 pm | [ Quote ]

MSK on 3/13/2006 at 2:33 pm said:

I’ve no doubt this section could serve a very useful purpose. Although…if we don’t keep it clean of banter it’ll become bogged into uselessness. I’m as guilty as the next person so please don’t take it wrong when I say, if we treat it like a chat room, it will become one.

Yeah, there is a lot of potential for debate on some of these collectibles. I may just turn off the comments on some of them if it comes down to that.

Comment #7:
Comment by Scott (590) - 3/13/2006 @ 3:01 pm | [ Quote ]

Nick on 3/13/2006 at 2:41 pm said:

Yeah, there is a lot of potential for debate on some of these collectibles. I may just turn off the comments on some of them if it comes down to that.

That sounds perfect!!!

Comment #8:
Comment by pmac (1393) - 3/13/2006 @ 3:27 pm | [ Quote ]

I would agree, that idea is great, a picture the name when who where it was made if there were limited runs different colors/versions etc and it is an information section, if there is any updated info about a bottle company or whatever, send to Nick to update, on that note make every picture have a reference number to make referral to palin and simple. Just some ideas.
I will get back to you when i get my e-mail that I did not win so the 370 others stand a better chance :)

Comment #9:
Comment by MSK (590) - 3/13/2006 @ 3:43 pm | [ Quote ]

From collections I’ve bought (one dating back 15+ years) I have a lot of companies where no information can be location. At some point I would be interested to list those one day, one/5/10 at a time, etc. for possible contact info. I love tracking them down to see if they’ll autograph the bottle(s) I have. The hunt becomes intoxicating!

Comment #10:
Comment by loco luna brian (1290) - 3/13/2006 @ 4:26 pm | [ Quote ]

This is a really creative and exciting idea. In my view, it will further solidify the HSB as a premier resource for the hot sauce loving public. A database like this will provide interesting and fun information to stimulate long time collectors and newbies alike.

Comment #11:
Comment by Aaron (1020) - 3/13/2006 @ 4:48 pm | [ Quote ]

Bring it on Nick. Never hurts to have a little extra information you might own and didn’t know.

Comment #12:
Comment by Tracy C (1312) - 3/13/2006 @ 5:46 pm | [ Quote ]

I think it sounds great Nick! Lets just hope that people remember that this is a “resource” guide, and that there are MANY different reasons as to why people collect hot sauce. Some folks could care less at what’s in the bottle, they just want the label because of it’s art or it’s entertainment value, while others like to collect only the high dollar reserves and limited ed. bottles. No one is to be considered wrong in the way that they like to collect. To each his own in collecting…Let’s learn more about our “sport”, and have some fun!!

Comment #13:
Comment by chris k (2682) - 3/13/2006 @ 5:59 pm | [ Quote ]

Tracy C on 3/13/2006 at 5:46 pm said:

I think it sounds great Nick! Lets just hope that people remember that this is a “resource” guide, and that there are MANY different reasons as to why people collect hot sauce. Some folks could care less at what’s in the bottle, they just want the label because of it’s art or it’s entertainment value, while others like to collect only the high dollar reserves and limited ed. bottles. No one is to be considered wrong in the way that they like to collect. To each his own in collecting…Let’s learn more about our “sport”, and have some fun!!

I 2nd that Tracy!

Comment #14:
Comment by eman (1755) - 3/13/2006 @ 6:42 pm | [ Quote ]

Nick, who will be doing the research?

Comment #15:
Comment by Cheffy (401) - 3/13/2006 @ 6:47 pm | [ Quote ]

I agree with Tracy, people should respect each other’s thoughts on the collectability factors of the hot sauces they collect or feel are collectable.

Comment #16:
Comment by eman (1755) - 3/13/2006 @ 6:49 pm | [ Quote ]

If we do this the comments should be positive, something that means nothing to us may mean the world to someone else

Comment #17:
Comment by jim campbell- Mild to Wild(R) (1532) - 3/13/2006 @ 7:27 pm | [ Quote ]

Great idea! I look at collecting as something akin to the baseball trading cards. You’ve no idea if that rookie card you have might turn out to be something. It’s all an educated gamble on how well you think a particular manufacturer is going to impact the chilehead community. So you might end up with a few that are worthless. You might also hit upon that one that can make the whole collection in five years time :-)

Comment #18:
Comment by loco luna brian (1290) - 3/13/2006 @ 7:29 pm | [ Quote ]

Well said Jim. Support the newbies:)

Comment #19:
Comment by jim campbell- Mild to Wild(R) (1532) - 3/13/2006 @ 7:32 pm | [ Quote ]

Especially since Nick is beating my brains in to do the UnBEARable as numbered, limited run :-)

Comment #20:
Comment by eman (1755) - 3/13/2006 @ 7:36 pm | [ Quote ]

Jim, John Figueroa says HI!

Comment #21:
Comment by jim campbell- Mild to Wild(R) (1532) - 3/13/2006 @ 7:38 pm | [ Quote ]

I think the research could be done by the list- might be a bit of traffic but posting the picture & the label info ought to be able to jog the memories of at least of few of us old timers into recalling information about it :-)

Comment #22:
Comment by jim campbell- Mild to Wild(R) (1532) - 3/13/2006 @ 7:38 pm | [ Quote ]

Hi Eman- tell MR Figueroa I also send greetings :-)

Comment #23:
Comment by eman (1755) - 3/13/2006 @ 7:40 pm | [ Quote ]

so….. back to business….. how much for the beyond death??
just kidding

Comment #24:
Comment by Nick Lindauer (1014) - 3/13/2006 @ 7:43 pm | [ Quote ]

eman on 3/13/2006 at 6:42 pm said:

Nick, who will be doing the research?

The research: I’ll be able to do a lot of it and of course we’ll take submissions from the collective here.

Comment #25:
Comment by loco luna brian (1290) - 3/13/2006 @ 7:52 pm | [ Quote ]

When do we start? This is a loooong term project. That is part of the fun!

Comment #26:
Comment by Cheffy (401) - 3/13/2006 @ 7:55 pm | [ Quote ]

Jim, a numbered limited run of Unbearable!!!!! Nick, beat harder!!! Count me in for sure, already have everything you do, but a numbered limited Unbearable could easily find a home on my shelf.

Comment #27:
Comment by Scott (590) - 3/13/2006 @ 8:03 pm | [ Quote ]

Dude!!!! That would be sweet for an Umbearable bottle.

Comment #28:
Comment by Scott (590) - 3/13/2006 @ 8:04 pm | [ Quote ]

oops, uNbearable.

Comment #29:
Comment by jim campbell- Mild to Wild(R) (1532) - 3/13/2006 @ 8:31 pm | [ Quote ]

A more difficult task is trying to assign a market value to the various collector bottles. Do we include ones that are singles, such as the one that is causing mr eman such consternation? How about other ’singles’ that some one might have signed by folks that are no longer in the business? I think consensus on a value is going to be *mighty* tough. Stick ‘em on ebay with an impossible to meet reserve and see how high the bidding went? :-P

Comment #30:
Comment by CaJohn (1373) - 3/13/2006 @ 8:32 pm | [ Quote ]

Here at the show in Chicago, I found a company that has totally ripped-off our HD Heat. Right down to the red, white & blue do-rag. They are offering it at less than half of our wholesale price, and pushing it to the mass marketers with the “American Chopper” name and the likenesses of the Orange County guys on the necktag. It is the same folks who push the peppers stuffed into vinegar bottles you find at discount stores everywhere.

We are currently out of stock on HD Heat and the bottles are on order. They are delayed while the manufacturer repairs the mold for the King Cobra bottle. I am cancelling this order for the bottles and have declared CaJohns run of HD Heat closed.

While this is the truth, I find that this sort of info I think would be proper on this category. I think it is a great idea. I would contribute all of the background info for my products.

So if you haven’t got a HD Heat, find one if you want one.

Comment #31:
Comment by CaJohn (1373) - 3/13/2006 @ 8:34 pm | [ Quote ]

JC, when do you want to start production of that “New” Series of bears? What color of wax? Are you taking pre-orders? Give me a call.

Comment #32:
Comment by jim campbell- Mild to Wild(R) (1532) - 3/13/2006 @ 8:37 pm | [ Quote ]

Calling now. Your phone should be ringing :-)

Comment #33:
Comment by loco luna brian (1290) - 3/13/2006 @ 8:40 pm | [ Quote ]

This is a great little community being built here! Kudos to all participants!

Comment #34:
Comment by jim campbell- Mild to Wild(R) (1532) - 3/13/2006 @ 8:41 pm | [ Quote ]

Sorry- phone card’s expired. I’m at the firehouse. YOU call :-)

Comment #35:
Comment by jim campbell- Mild to Wild(R) (1532) - 3/13/2006 @ 8:43 pm | [ Quote ]

How about letting us know who the company is so that we can boycott them? Or at least send nasty notes? It seems the window for originality in this business is about 5 minutes.

Sure can take the wind out of collecting or at least dilute it.

Comment #36:
Comment by huvason (3717) - 3/13/2006 @ 9:00 pm | [ Quote ]

I agree Jim! CAJOhn Tell us who it is.

(Jim don’t post your phone number on here!)

Comment #37:
Comment by huvason (3717) - 3/13/2006 @ 9:01 pm | [ Quote ]

Whoops, NIck must have caught it already! My Bad.

Comment #38:
Comment by chris k (2682) - 3/13/2006 @ 10:28 pm | [ Quote ]

Hey Kristi, did they let you out of the kitchen, or did you have break out?

Finish making all that new sauce yet?

Comment #39:
Comment by MSK (590) - 3/13/2006 @ 10:36 pm | [ Quote ]

Jim C. are you going to be home tomorrow? I’ll drop the dime if you are.

Comment #40:
Comment by Aaron (1020) - 3/13/2006 @ 10:37 pm | [ Quote ]

Uh OH I better be lookin for one. Time to look around

Comment #41:
Comment by chris k (2682) - 3/13/2006 @ 10:44 pm | [ Quote ]

Nick, I assume that label changes would be included in Information on different editions. and you would have the manufacturer and where they are/were located.

When it was made.
How many were made.
Information on different editions.
Approx. Value & Initial cost.
Pictures!

Comment #42:
Comment by chris k (2682) - 3/13/2006 @ 10:49 pm | [ Quote ]

What else to add:
Maybe you could list the inspiration behind creating the (special) bottle if the manufacturer supplies that info to you.

Comment #43:
Comment by Adam2 (282) - 3/13/2006 @ 11:45 pm | [ Quote ]

jim campbell- Mild to Wild(R) on 3/13/2006 at 8:31 pm said:

A more difficult task is trying to assign a market value to the various collector bottles. Do we include ones that are singles, such as the one that is causing mr eman such consternation? How about other ’singles’ that some one might have signed by folks that are no longer in the business? I think consensus on a value is going to be *mighty* tough. Stick ‘em on ebay with an impossible to meet reserve and see how high the bidding went? :-P

I agree, it would be impossible to assign exact, precise dollar amounts to every bottle - but I don’t think that anyone is expecting that. Just a general idea of what similar bottles have sold for in the past would be perfect. I’m sure Nick has a pretty good nose for value, and he has a great support team here if he needs help!

Comment #44:
Comment by Vic (1401) - 3/14/2006 @ 2:47 am | [ Quote ]

CaJohn on 3/13/2006 at 8:32 pm said:

Here at the show in Chicago, I found a company that has totally ripped-off our HD Heat. Right down to the red, white & blue do-rag. They are offering it at less than half of our wholesale price, and pushing it to the mass marketers with the “American Chopper” name and the likenesses of the Orange County guys on the necktag. It is the same folks who push the peppers stuffed into vinegar bottles you find at discount stores everywhere.

We are currently out of stock on HD Heat and the bottles are on order. They are delayed while the manufacturer repairs the mold for the King Cobra bottle. I am cancelling this order for the bottles and have declared CaJohns run of HD Heat closed.

While this is the truth, I find that this sort of info I think would be proper on this category. I think it is a great idea. I would contribute all of the background info for my products.

So if you haven’t got a HD Heat, find one if you want one.

Thanks for the info CaJohn, I picked one up tonight

Comment #45:
Comment by pmac (1393) - 3/14/2006 @ 7:06 am | [ Quote ]

I imagine you picked up the original HD not the knock off’’s RIGHT!!! :):)

Comment #46:
Comment by Duckman (20) - 3/14/2006 @ 1:22 pm | [ Quote ]

I am new here at the HSB, but I would love to see this start up. I think that there are some bottles that I have from up here in Canada, that some of you probably haven’t seen, and may be interested in hearing about

Jeremy

Comment #47:
Comment by Vic (1401) - 3/14/2006 @ 1:50 pm | [ Quote ]

pmac on 3/14/2006 at 7:06 am said:

I imagine you picked up the original HD not the knock off’’s RIGHT!!! :):)

Thanks pmac- yes I did

Comment #48:
Comment by Ryan (2615) - 3/15/2006 @ 12:38 am | [ Quote ]

Duckman/Jeremy, welcome aboard. Always looking forward to people form other countries joining in here. Ever place you go there’s different sauces, printing on labels, etc…Do share with the rest of the class what’cha got

Comment #49:
Comment by pmac (1393) - 3/16/2006 @ 7:27 am | [ Quote ]

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chris k (725)

ALERT! ALERT!! SIRENS going off in the background!!!
WE HAVE AN ADDICT, I REPEAT WE HAVE AN ADDICT!!!!
:)
Just playing chris k, hehe.

Comment #50:
Comment by Tracy C (1312) - 3/16/2006 @ 7:35 am | [ Quote ]

Anyone ever heard of a 12 step program for Blogaholics??!!

Comment #51:
Comment by chris k (2682) - 3/16/2006 @ 7:38 am | [ Quote ]

pmac on 3/16/2006 at 7:27 am said:

Top 20 Commenters
chris k (725)

ALERT! ALERT!! SIRENS going off in the background!!!
WE HAVE AN ADDICT, I REPEAT WE HAVE AN ADDICT!!!!
:)
Just playing chris k, hehe.

I was just looking at that pmac…

way to much time on here…he he
you know, ever since Nick put that little notify me checkbox there, its like a costant flow of info to my inbox.
with all this great info, I cant help but check in… :-)

maybe I will have to start a racovery progrm?

Comment #52:
Comment by huvason (3717) - 3/16/2006 @ 7:38 am | [ Quote ]

I was thinking the same thing. Talk about carpal tunnel :)

Comment #53:
Comment by chris k (2682) - 3/16/2006 @ 7:43 am | [ Quote ]

Tracy C on 3/16/2006 at 7:35 am said:

Anyone ever heard of a 12 step program for Blogaholics??!!

huvason on 3/16/2006 at 7:38 am said:

I was thinking the same thing. Talk about carpal tunnel :)

what can I say. there was a time when I would check in here before work, and again later that night. Ever since we got rolling with the HSB signed bottle, I find myself checking in here throughout the day (while at work). there has been to much great stuff posted here since then. Im just hoping they (work) dont start to filter this out like they do with other sites….

Comment #54:
Comment by Kristi (1284) - 3/16/2006 @ 8:14 am | [ Quote ]

chris k on 3/13/2006 at 10:28 pm said:

Hey Kristi, did they let you out of the kitchen, or did you have break out?

Finish making all that new sauce yet?

Hey Chris, no the new sauce is still under way. Getting there though. You guys will be the first to know when it’s ready. Have a good one, must go to work.

Comment #55:
Comment by MattUK (713) - 3/16/2006 @ 8:44 am | [ Quote ]

chris k on 3/16/2006 at 7:38 am said:

I was just looking at that pmac…

way to much time on here…he he
you know, ever since Nick put that little notify me checkbox there, its like a costant flow of info to my inbox.
with all this great info, I cant help but check in… :-)

maybe I will have to start a racovery progrm?

I’ve decided not to tick the notify me checkbox for the moment - I’m leaving space for an email that may be on it way from the Creator (hopefully anyway)

Comment #56:
Comment by DEFCON Creator (1734) - 3/16/2006 @ 8:56 am | [ Quote ]

Your anxiety is noted Matt, and may lady luck shine upon you. I am floored by the number of people that have asked me to add them to THE list. Let’s just say the number rivals that of the date of the decline of the Roman Empire. Good luck to you all!

Comment #57:
Comment by Vic (1401) - 3/16/2006 @ 9:04 am | [ Quote ]

Ok guys, does this qualify as a collectors item?! She should at least get an A for effort and intiative.

eBay Auction Link - Not Safe for Work!

Comment #58:
Comment by Lisa (489) - 3/16/2006 @ 5:32 pm | [ Quote ]

darn, should have been one of our bottles… lol

Comment #59:
Comment by MSK (590) - 3/17/2006 @ 1:38 am | [ Quote ]

Lisa……..There’s plenty of room on your website for more pics :) :) :) :)

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