WOW!…got up early and checked the e-mail …nothing yet THEN bam there it was. Maybe I was the first to reply but who knows. Getting excited though
-Rob

When did you send the reply? I sent mine at 6:35.

Mine went out the door at 6:23 am EST…..we both should be in
Rob

early bird gets the worm

Good Luck Everyone…. Not sure if I posted that already - as luck would have it my internet went down. Luckily most people don’t know how to secure their wireless network - so I hijacked a neighbors

I should have put these here:

chris k on 3/18/2006 at 7:00 am said:

Hmmmm, pretty clever, Creator!
All those that enjoyed “the merriment of St. Patrick”are unable to awake early, thus unable to respond to the e-mail. Interesting!

chris k on 3/18/2006 at 7:03 am said:

Hey cody, you must have been checking in often?
Looks like you may get one.
I hope you dont mind all the talk last night, remember, “he who enjoys the fruit of life that prospers from its well-givings”

huvason on 3/18/2006 at 6:58 am said:

Good Luck Everyone…. Not sure if I posted that already - as luck would have it my internet went down. Luckily most people don’t know how to secure their wireless network - so I hijacked a neighbors

No way huvason. I would go outside and check the line or something. There may be a pair of wire-clippers near-by ha ha

Mmmmmm. Maybe a fellow chili lives around me - Good thinking Chris.

BTW - my brilliant Blackerry idea didn’t work. Set my GMAIL account to foward email from the creator to my blackberry and I didn’t get it!

huvason on 3/18/2006 at 7:10 am said:

Mmmmmm. Maybe a fellow chili lives around me - Good thinking Chris.

BTW - my brilliant Blackerry idea didn’t work. Set my GMAIL account to foward email from the creator to my blackberry and I didn’t get it!

Where was MAD anyway? Mmmmmm. “Maybe a fellow chili lives around me” He already has a bottle anyway.

I had done the same thing yesterday with my cell. Thats why I said that it would come in during my drive home. I would have been able to see the email, but wouldnt have been able to access other sites to place the order. (in this case, it would have worked though because I could have responded to the e-mail)
Oh well. Creator may have beaten us this time ha ha

Besides, did anyone ever get named the winner of the famous contest yet?

One more thing. Check your reply huvason. Did you reply or reply to all?
With the way this is going, I would make sure that it went to both of Creator’s addresses.

Guys, we will still have to wait to see if we are in or not.

“The first 41 individuals to e-mail me (defconcreator@defconsauces.com) will receive a response from The Creator as of tomorrow evening. “

chris k on 3/18/2006 at 7:40 am said:

Guys, we will still have to wait to see if we are in or not.

“The first 41 individuals to e-mail me (defconcreator@defconsauces.com) will receive a response from The Creator as of tomorrow evening. “

Whoops…. I only replied to the email. Just send one to defconcreator@defconsauces.com = oh well

I hope I am in Time, thanks huvason- I went back and sent an individual e-mail also, and I went to his site and sent one through his “contact” section also. This is so crazy- grown men flipping out like this- it’s great, I can tell you I woke up really fast, now the blood is flowing. Have a great day guys & girls

Well now I sent mine in but i was told that we should not reply to the email but forward it to a different e-mail. I re read it(i am still working on my first coffee) and i still dont see where it said to send to a specific address. Oh well I got mine in just now if that is the case if not and the aol address was good it went a half hour ago, gotta jet to work ttyl

Vic on 3/18/2006 at 8:04 am said:

I hope I am in Time, thanks huvason- I went back and sent an individual e-mail also, and I went to his site and sent one through his “contact” section also. This is so crazy- grown men flipping out like this- it’s great, I can tell you I woke up really fast, now the blood is flowing. Have a great day guys & girls

Chris actually caught that… but my email doesn’t say that either! It only says it up where Nick posted. Mine only says “The first 41 individuals to e-mail me will receive a response from The Creator as of tomorrow evening”
Like Vic said - better to be safe then sorry.

Do I detect conspiracy Two emails? Nick throwing us a curve?

Well. I guess the creator will get a bunch of Dupes

huvason on 3/18/2006 at 8:09 am said:

Do I detect conspiracy Two emails? Nick throwing us a curve?

Nick Lindauer on 3/18/2006 at 8:10 am said:

Both emails will work. I only posted the one just because. He does check both, so don’t fret

Ok, not to put a spin on this. I received my email from his aol account. It also contained his aol account and the defcon account in the “to” line.

All I know is that when I read over my reply, it went to aol only (as it should have)
When I sent a repl to all. the aol and defcon account both received the e-mail.
I am just saying that the way this whole thing has gone, I am trying to cover tall the bases. I would send it to both (reply to all)

Hey if I have to I’ll e-mail everyone in his family, his third grade teacher, his therapist, and overseer of his religous beliefs!!! You know dragging myself out to the computer in a Green Beer induced fog and seeing the e-mail has brought on one heck of a Green Headache.

As for the contest, if the winner does not receive an e-mail, I think we have one.

Not me, I can not name names…ha ha

Vic on 3/18/2006 at 8:18 am said:

Hey if I have to I’ll e-mail everyone in his family, his third grade teacher, his therapist, and overseer of his religous beliefs!!! You know dragging myself out to the computer in a Green Beer induced fog and seeing the e-mail has brought on one heck of a Green Headache.

Hey huvason, can you help VIC.
He would like to reply to the whole internet ha ha

chris k on 3/18/2006 at 8:20 am said:

Hey huvason, can you help VIC.
He would like to reply to the whole internet ha ha

Sure! I’ll have to do it using my neighbors Internet. Mine is still down! I love techonolgy (and the technology challenged). Probably the only neighbor that hasn’t had me setup the computers!

Vic… must have been one heck of a St. PAtty’s day!.

Just sent ours in, hope we are not too late!!!!! Already cleared a space for it.

Huvason, nice job on the internet napping!

huvason on 3/18/2006 at 8:27 am said:

Sure! I’ll have to do it using my neighbors Internet. Mine is still down! I love techonolgy (and the technology challenged). Probably the only neighbor that hasn’t had me setup the computers!

Vic… must have been one heck of a St. PAtty’s day!.

Ha ha, maybe you could cancel your service now, why pay when you can get it for free?

AARRGGHH!! Creator only has my work email and the server is down. I cannot check it from home. Looks like i miss out on Zero Batch #2.

I just sent mine in! I hope people are sleeping in from St Patricks day aftermath I guess I shall see

huvason on 3/18/2006 at 7:47 am said:

Whoops…. I only replied to the email. Just send one to defconcreator@defconsauces.com = oh well

Didn’t the original email come from both addresses though? Mine did

my email hasn’t got a specific address to reply to either - just says to email him. I replied to the email he sent and so hopefully, due to the two addresses will go to the right place

Well mine just said reply to this email. So I did! Now just waiting to see if I was lucky enough. I only hope so. He won’t let us know till tomorrow night I guess?

Mine also just said to reply to the email, no alternative email was listed, so it went to the AOL addy. Just gonna sit tight and wait I guess.

I received my email at 6:12am EST and the reply was sent at 6:15am EST, hope it was quick enough.

I just spent a little time this morning moving my collection from it’s location on my TV stand back to the Mantle above the fireplace. It is more visable up there, but I don’t like to keep it there in the winter due to the heat from the gas furnace that sits just below it. I have shut off the gas, so the move was safe. I left a spot open for the Batch 2 for luck.

I think Nick added the email address when he posted it here.

I received my email from his aol account. It also contained his aol account and the defcon account in the “TO” line. (ook at the to line)

All I know is that when I read over my reply, it went to aol only (as it should have)
When I sent a REPLY TO ALL. the aol and defcon account both received the e-mail.

from my earlier post…

huvason on 3/18/2006 at 7:47 am said:

Whoops…. I only replied to the email. Just send one to defconcreator@defconsauces.com = oh well

When the Creator says “tomorrow night” He means Sunday night right?
Just checking.

I think so. He sent the email around 6am today… so we sould know by tomorrow.

I guess he has to sort through the inundation of emails I am sure he is getting. Especially as more people notice it. I just wish I knew if I got in on time. Call me greedy but I want to know But alas I have the patience of many humans lol

Anyone gotten an email from defcon yet saying they got a batch 2?

No not yet. I’m waiting too.

I’m waiting too with my fingers strongly crossed. Hopefully one will be crossing ‘the pond’ soon. Oh forgot to say earlier but good luck everyone!!

The Creator seems to stay true to his word. I wouldn’t expect to hear anything until tomorrow night.

I e-mailed you Creator! I thought I was on your list to get one in the first place. Let me know if I can still get one.

Dan- did you ever get the email? Wish I saw your post earlier, I could have told you how to send an email looking like it came from your work adress.

I signed my significant others email up for the email updates, but she never got one. No biggie and put our email out to him at 2pm today. No clue if that’s early enough, but it is what it is.

huvason on 3/18/2006 at 6:50 pm said:

Dan- did you ever get the email? Wish I saw your post earlier, I could have told you how to send an email looking like it came from your work adress.

I was talking to the Creator on the phone Thursday and he put me on the list. I gave him my work email… I was not aware that I would be unable to check my email this weekend due to the email server being down. I have tried to get in the back door of the server, tried to call the IT guy… no luck. You win some and you lose some…. Thak you, though!

huvason on 3/18/2006 at 6:50 pm said:

Dan- did you ever get the email? Wish I saw your post earlier, I could have told you how to send an email looking like it came from your work adress.

How do you do that huvason? that could come in handy when my main email isn’t working - the server is always down at uni when you need to send an important email

Dan @ BLP Labels on 3/19/2006 at 2:46 am said:

I was talking to the Creator on the phone Thursday and he put me on the list. I gave him my work email… I was not aware that I would be unable to check my email this weekend due to the email server being down. I have tried to get in the back door of the server, tried to call the IT guy… no luck. You win some and you lose some…. Thak you, though!

Dan, did you tell your IT guy this was a Priority 1?

I’ll try and post later and show you why you should never beleive anything you get via email. I’m at work now - need to finish up something - then hot sauce shopping. I’ll try and post tonight.

huvason on 3/19/2006 at 9:21 am said:

I’ll try and post later and show you why you should never beleive anything you get via email. I’m at work now - need to finish up something - then hot sauce shopping. I’ll try and post tonight.

How did you swing the “hot sauce shopping”

I know huvason, between the hair growth and viagra adds. I tried both at once and my hair stood up straight for a month!

chris k on 3/19/2006 at 9:24 am said:

How did you swing the “hot sauce shopping”

She’s actually mellowed a bit on my hot sauce shopping. I explained to her that we can do it this way, where I spend a bit of money on my hobby, and she gets the rest of the $$$. Or we pay the bills, then split the rest 50/50. She’d rather take the 99.9% and leave me to 0.1%

Plus she get to shop as well!

Anyone with requests? They do have a few collectibles. I will check any specifics and get back with price’s for anyone.

Where are you going to buy hot sauce???

I’m flagged for a month. My wife is livid. I nearly had to sleep in the van when my last order came in

Mad_Reilly on 3/19/2006 at 9:33 am said:

Where are you going to buy hot sauce???

There’s a store in Port Jefferson out on the island here. I really do not even know the name. Last time I was there was when Jersey Death had come out and I couldn’t get it locally. I noticed they had a bunch of collectibles, but never really looked.

Ahhh Port Jeff. I see so a little shopping, a little lunch on the water. Nice one. The only shopping around here is Willowbrook Mall and the only water (besides my basement) is the Pasaic River. Sounds like a really great day! Have fun - I’m Jealous

Mad_Reilly on 3/19/2006 at 9:35 am said:

I’m flagged for a month. My wife is livid. I nearly had to sleep in the van when my last order came in

Funny. I’ve heard that as well. When you were at the show - did you happen to grab an extra ZERO for me? I made the request prior to the show and wasn’t worried until NOW!

I used to ride my bike out to Port Jefferson - Mind the words used too, that’s what happens when you get married.

Ouch huvason, I didn’t read that thread or I would of got one for you. But Creator had it only one per customer as well. Sorry

Mad_Reilly on 3/19/2006 at 9:42 am said:

Ouch huvason, I didn’t read that thread or I would of got one for you. But Creator had it only one per customer as well. Sorry

NO Problem!

has anyone received an email from the CREATOR??

Not me/ Maybe he’s watching this crappy Sopranos episode.

I haven’t yet.

The Sopranos? Please refrain from insulting my intelligence. I live in NJ, there is no need to watch a bunch of overpaid Hollywood wannabes act out like they live here. Anyway, the winners shall be receiving the e-mails within the hour, just sorting out the finals. Stay tuned…

DEFCON Creator on 3/19/2006 at 10:43 pm said:

The Sopranos? Please refrain from insulting my intelligence. I live in NJ, there is no need to watch a bunch of overpaid Hollywood wannabes act out like they live here. Anyway, the winners shall be receiving the e-mails within the hour, just sorting out the finals. Stay tuned…

Uh oh here we go. Ha I sent a few too many emails in accident in a hurry to get a response. I thought I left something out infact I told him too much. So he may have a little extra to sort through. Sorry bout that

DEFCON Creator on 3/19/2006 at 10:43 pm said:

The Sopranos? Please refrain from insulting my intelligence. I live in NJ, there is no need to watch a bunch of overpaid Hollywood wannabes act out like they live here. Anyway, the winners shall be receiving the e-mails within the hour, just sorting out the finals. Stay tuned…

I actually wasted an hour of my life tonight watching that crap.

Looks like i’m a lucky one. Just got the email:
Greetings,
Well, the wait is over, and you can count one more addition to your Shelf of Doom. You have been anointed with the chance to purchase a Defcon ZERO Batch #2. Here’s how it works…..

Good Luck every one

Just got mine too!!!!yipeeeee

Congrats eman.

I was about to get depressed when I saw everyone was getting theirs and I looked down and it was there! Sweet action!

Got mine too. It has been sent back for the next step of billing. All I
can say is ONE GREAT CREATOR. THANKS YOU SO MUCH!

Cant chatt tonight gents, spending time with the wife tonight, see y’all tmara!!

Got mine as well, waiting on the bill.

I got the email when I was fast asleep (past 04:00). Thanks Creator. U’ve made my boring day a hell of a lot better!!

Has anyone got there e-mail from The Creator yet?

I got my e-mail too! I’m also waiting for the bill.

This definately helped my case of the Mondays!

Has anyone received the paypal invoice yet?

not yet

nor have I. I imagine he has alot to sort through. That and he does have a regular job! One busy Creator I can bet you that. He can take his time now that I know I got my ZERO. Call me greedy but it is what it is

Whew….just got confirmed to get a bottle.

sweet action Ryan! Now for the invoice cause I want some more sauce to come with it lol That I am more ready for since I won’t be eating the ZERO

Rob S. on 3/20/2006 at 12:19 pm said:

Has anyone received the paypal invoice yet?

me neither….can’t believe I got 1 but I’m so so happy I did

Greetings all, from the data catacombs of Defcon HQ. I have received everyone’s information, except for 3, you know who you are. Please don’t send me any more e-mails asking if I received the info, I did. I will be generating the invoices in the next hour or two. Remember, there is a time stamp on these invoices, 48 hours, they time-out, and YOUR bottle will be redirected. As for the 3 people I have not received the personal information from, heed the cautionary verbiage within the e-mail I just sent, as I do not wish to redirect YOUR bottle as well. Sorry if I sound a bit snippy, it’s been a long day, traffic really sucked, and The Createss is unable to help me this evening having recently come out of surgery. Bear with me folks, your bottle will be within the grasp of your paws quite soon.

Now, I must take my leave once again into the depths of the Data Mines deep below Defcon HQ…As you were…

Invoice paid and sent!! Not to mention a refill of the Defcon stock

Another invoice received and paid….I also need to restock but thought I would keep this trasaction as simple as possible. Anyone planning on cracking open the Zero as soon as received or does it go next to the Blair’s reserves? Small looking bottle but I bet it will go a long way

Oh yeah its small but some cool stuff! I plan on putting my ZERO batch #1 in there with it! It would be cool if I could get one of those sweet boxes to put batch #1 in but with the size I imagine they will both fit quite nicely. If there is an extra box out there Creator I would like to part you with it It looks just that cool to have a nest of peppers for your collection

My invoice was recieved and paid!!! I can’t wait until it comes!!!

Congratulations to all that were one of the lucky ones that got one.

That would look nice. The first batch did not come with a display case did it?

Nick Lindauer on 3/20/2006 at 9:19 pm said:

Aaron - My Batch #1 has been put in the box with Batch #2 - nice little display box for both bottles.

Exactly what I wanted to hear Nick. Perfect!

and no display case for the first one

OK

Do you know of anything new that is coming out with Blair yet?

cdy1776 on 3/20/2006 at 9:34 pm said:

Do you know of anything new that is coming out with Blair yet?

The new salsas and cheese dip that he had at the show. Also new lables for the death line of bottles.

Ok thanks. Do you know of a release date?

End of march for the salsa and cheese dip, don’t know when the new death bottles are comming out.

eman on 3/20/2006 at 9:37 pm said:

The new salsas and cheese dip that he had at the show. Also new lables for the death line of bottles.

sounds like another round of bottles for you eman!

loco luna brian on 3/20/2006 at 9:41 pm said:

sounds like another round of bottles for you eman!

You know it!! Hey Brian, got the bottles today.
!!!!!!!!!AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!
thankyou so much, also just sent in the review of the lava extreme to nick…you should like….1/2 the bottle is gone!!!

Thanks for the kind words eman! I appreciate it. BTW, I was inspired from our Napoleaon Dynamite banter the other nite and did a Kip remix for the HSB. It may not be Shakespear, but it is for the HSB:) Maybe Nick will share it with (inflict it upon?) the group.

Yes, I love technology…

Flippn’ Sweet!

My ZERO has already shipped! Since I live close - hope to get it very soon!

huvason on 3/22/2006 at 7:16 am said:

My ZERO has already shipped! Since I live close - hope to get it very soon!

The ETA for mine is delivery today. What city/state do you live in?

I live in LI, NY. What about you cody?

Of ocurse when I track it I get:
>>>Label/Receipt Number: 0703 8555 xxxx xxxx xxxx
>>>There is no record of this item.

Maybe the creator is making me suffer. (or there system is not updated yet )

Leesburg, Virginia (less than a 5 hour drive from NJ)

Has anyone heard about “taste the pain” and if you have, do you have any problems with them?

cdy1776 on 3/22/2006 at 7:25 am said:

Leesburg, Virginia (less than a 5 hour drive from NJ)

I live about 2hours. Hopefully mine will come today as well. If not then probably tomorrow.

Greetings all,
Well, here is an update regarding your ZERO’s. As I stated earlier, I have been doing all the shipping prep all by my little self, as The Createss is unable to use her left upper appendage because of sugery. For this, I apologize for the delay. But your anxieties are soon to be quelled. All the domestic shipments will go out tomorrow. The non-domestics(Canada, England, Scotland, Germany, APO’s, Cayman Islands) will be going out Saturday morning, as I have to personally hand the packages to them. The shipping e-mails you have received is because I printed out the shipping labels last night. They are all going out Priority Mail, so most of you should get them by Saturday.

Now, for some further good news. It seems a few people have not followed my instructions to the letter. I have a couple bad addresses, and one or two people haven’t paid. Well, that leaves me no choice but to put them up for purchase again. I will release the number available by either today or tomorrow. There should be 1-3 available. DO NOT E-MAIL ME REGARDING THESE YET!!! To do so would relegate yourself to my “Fecal Roster” so as not to have a chance of getting one.

Just wanted to keep you guys up to date on the goings-on, and thanks again.

The Creator

Thanx for the update DRATOR. Hope the misses is feeling OK.

Whoops. Fat Fingers.

Thanx for the update CREATOR. Hope the misses is feeling OK.

huvason on 3/22/2006 at 7:54 am said:

Thanx for the update DRATOR. Hope the misses is feeling OK.

huvason on 3/22/2006 at 7:55 am said:

Whoops. Fat Fingers.

Thanx for the update CREATOR. Hope the misses is feeling OK.

Hmmm, are you sure huvason, I thought you were just getting him back a bit for those caption comments last night ha ha

chris k on 3/22/2006 at 8:59 am said:

Hmmm, are you sure huvason, I thought you were just getting him back a bit for those caption comments last night ha ha

LOL - Maybe

Noted.

DEFCON Creator on 3/22/2006 at 11:21 am said:

Noted.

Your not keeping score are you Creator?
Maybe just a couple of notes in that black book so if one of our pics does show up on here???

Not really a score per se, more of a ever-growing cumulative aggregate which in turn raises a said individuals chances to experience retributive bliss at my hand. ‘Tis a game I personally involve myself with and truly enjoy playing, as the recipient of said ‘retributive bliss’ is always unsuspecting, as the inevitable conclusion is never foreshadowed, so as to give itself away.

DEFCON Creator on 3/22/2006 at 12:41 pm said:

Not really a score per se, more of a ever-growing cumulative aggregate which in turn raises a said individuals chances to experience retributive bliss at my hand. ‘Tis a game I personally involve myself with and truly enjoy playing, as the recipient of said ‘retributive bliss’ is always unsuspecting, as the inevitable conclusion is never foreshadowed, so as to give itself away.

I hope spelling mistakes don’t add to my aggregate!

Did I mention I’m buying the first round at the next DEFCON day?

I have received a receipt of payment, but no shipping email yet. I had problems with my Paypal account and spent 4 hrs on the phone with them yesterday over it. I hope it didn’t cost me a Zero. Creator, I understand if you have to pass mine on to someone else, it was not youy fault. Paypal hosed my address info. I hope I got it straightened out in time.

DEFCON Creator on 3/22/2006 at 7:43 am said:

Greetings all,
Well, here is an update regarding your ZERO’s. As I stated earlier, I have been doing all the shipping prep all by my little self, as The Createss is unable to use her left upper appendage because of sugery. For this, I apologize for the delay. But your anxieties are soon to be quelled. All the domestic shipments will go out tomorrow. The non-domestics(Canada, England, Scotland, Germany, APO’s, Cayman Islands) will be going out Saturday morning, as I have to personally hand the packages to them. The shipping e-mails you have received is because I printed out the shipping labels last night. They are all going out Priority Mail, so most of you should get them by Saturday.

Now, for some further good news. It seems a few people have not followed my instructions to the letter. I have a couple bad addresses, and one or two people haven’t paid. Well, that leaves me no choice but to put them up for purchase again. I will release the number available by either today or tomorrow. There should be 1-3 available. DO NOT E-MAIL ME REGARDING THESE YET!!! To do so would relegate yourself to my “Fecal Roster” so as not to have a chance of getting one.

Just wanted to keep you guys up to date on the goings-on, and thanks again.

The Creator

Aaaaaaa please say you mean Wales when you say England

huvason on 3/22/2006 at 12:49 pm said:

I hope spelling mistakes don’t add to my aggregate!

Did I mention I’m buying the first round at the next DEFCON day?

huvason, the damage is already done

no fair trying to bribe Creator to erase your “aggregate!” ha ha

besides, “as the recipient of said ‘retributive bliss’ is always unsuspecting” dont worry, you already expect it!

huvason, just to be safe. If I do get a 0, I went out and got some rubber gloves and a respirator. I will not open that package without them ha ha

Then its off to the autoclave with that little box

chris k on 3/22/2006 at 12:59 pm said:

huvason, the damage is already done

no fair trying to bribe Creator to erase your “aggregate!” ha ha

besides, “as the recipient of said ‘retributive bliss’ is always unsuspecting” dont worry, you already expect it!

You’d be surprised what COLD FREE Beer can do! :)

huvason on 3/22/2006 at 1:37 pm said:

You’d be surprised what COLD FREE Beer can do! :)

Hmmmmm, the powers of the great Creator collapse when given a cold fermented alcoholic beverage

Could we say like kryptonite is to superman?

chris k on 3/22/2006 at 2:02 pm said:

Hmmmmm, the powers of the great Creator collapse when given a cold fermented alcoholic beverage

Could we say like kryptonite is to superman?

I’m not sure, i’ll let you know

i’d say by the end of DEFCON Day, CREATOR is going to be melted with all the fermented alcoholic beverage to be consumed. Huv you better stick around untill i get there!

Melted? You underestimate my powers of imbibing, Grasshopper.

Mad_Reilly on 3/22/2006 at 2:14 pm said:

i’d say by the end of DEFCON Day, CREATOR is going to be melted with all the fermented alcoholic beverage to be consumed. Huv you better stick around untill i get there!

I’m there for the duration. I’m even wprking on a desginated driver.

(evil chuckle)

Ok, I goofed and posted in the wrong thread earlier, so I am back on track now. Thanks, for the reply in the wrong thread there Creator. I am in SC, stateside, and I do have a receipt for payment, just no shipping confirmation. My Paypal was screwed up so bad it ain’t funny, so if you didn’t get the payment then that’s ok, do what ya gotta do, I will take it up with Paypal. What was supposed to be a simple transaction turned into a nightmare just over their screwup with my address. I won’t know if they got it right until I get the Zero I guess. I have dealt with Paypal for some time now and never had a problem until now. What a time to start!