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“For Chiliheads by Chiliheads”
Full of intrigue and mystery, we have all heard small tid bits about this sauce but nothing substantial. Some threads here and there talk about iton occasion, you can also find a picture or two of the label on a couple of our friends websites around, but still- it’s not clear or anything to really wrap your hands around. So I have the challenge and in my opinion the honor to shed some light on this Hot Sauce Enigma. In recognition of the eBay auction for Jim Campbell’s “Stairway to Heaven” World Record Attempt, visit stepupforcharity.org for more information, founding members of the HSU have come out of the dark so to say to raise attention to Jim’s cause. The realization of being able to make an impact and to also HBO- “Helpa Brother Out”, this usually secretive society is doing their own “Stepping Up”.
“The Hot Sauce Underground (HSU) is a small brotherhood of chileheads, bound together by the love of all things hot. A very limited number of the HSU hot sauce bottles made their journey around the country to be signed by each of the founding members:”
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Eric N. aka “eman”/ “Captain Capsicum”
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Chris K. aka “head moderator of the HSB”
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Ryan D. aka “angrypepper.com”
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Tracy C. aka “Cap’n Bones”
So lets paint a picture here, back in March during the Feiry Foods Show in Albuquerque, New Mexico not all the bloggers had made the pilgrimage- not anywhere near the amount that sounds like are travelling to Forth Worth, Texas for Zest Fest this year. A small group represented us there and by the readings and the pictures they had a real good time. Some of us had that left out feeling, so to strike up comradery and build relationships a small group of four hardcore bloggers cooked up an idea for a sauce they could call their own. A sauce that would travel the country, be signed by the four of them, and shared by the four of them. 36 bottles in all were produced; 16 signed were signed by the original 4 members, 4 more bottles were signed by CaJohn, Wicked Wanza, and MSK for again the original 4 members, and with now only 5 remaining bottles that are unsigned and until recently undecided on who they would go to or how they could be used (if you have one you’re lucky). In my humble opinion it couldn’t be for a better cause or for a better guy.
Ingredients: Red Savina Habanero Chiles, Vinegar, Onion, Tomatoes, Lemon Juice, Salt, Garlic
Ok, enough of that, let’s get to the meat and potatoes of this bad boy! Red Savina Habanero Chiles kick major butt. When you break the seal on this bottle the pepper smell is strong, the Vinegar base is apparent but not to overbearing. The Tomatoes and Onions are faint but recognizable, and give this sauce a nice body. Not as thick as it looks, The HSU Sauce pours pretty quickly but sticks well to food and to the Classic Triscuit Test. The texture of the sauce is that of a very fine puree, with very small pepper pieces and evidence of the ground seeds all throughout it.
WARNING!!
This product is not for children or for those who have a mild tolerance for heat!
XXX HOT XXX YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED XXX HOT XXX
Did I mention that Red Savina Chiles kick major butt? The HSU Sauce is a Feisty and Angry sauce, the heat jumps right out and takes control. The flavor is outstanding, and my first impression without thinking was “This Tastes Fresh”. Being the consistency that it is and the heat that it brings, this sauce is in your face but not a “Show Stealer”, it complimented everything I tried it on. I cooked a Butterflied Boneless Pork Chop with some steamed (oversteamed!) Asparagus, Corn on the Cob, and Lipton’s Tomato & Basil Noodles. By the end of the meal my nose was running, my lips and tongue were numb, and it felt like my mouth was smoking, I loved every minute of it.
Conclusion: This is one mean sauce, one of the hotter non-extracts I have tried and one of the tastier ones at that. I love a good strong Habanero sauce, throw in the fact that it tastes fresh, and to me you have a winner on your hands. Produced by Cajohn’s Fiery Foods for Cape Fear Pepper Company. These four guys, the founding members of the Hot Sauce Underground have a superb hot sauce here. Not only is it now part of this incredible act of selflessness and humanity by Jim and his efforts, everyone involved in this mystery sauce can say they helped Jim just a little bit. From the top of the industry, to both sides, and all the camps inbetween have come together with one goal in mind, support one of our own. Isn’t that what it’s all about!
Packaging/Label: 10 out of 10
Aroma: 10 out of 10
Taste: 10 out of 10
Heat: 10 out of 10
Overall: 10 out of 10………………..This one’s for you Jim
Jim Campbell
http://www.stepupforcharity.org
Stairway to Heaven
Meet Your Maker #13 - Jim Campbell
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10/10? so much for credibility.
Critic on 8/17/2006 at 9:48 am said:
10/10? so much for credibility.
oh look, we have another coward
Nick, do you have something against Tracy? In the “Stirway to Heaven” thread, you list 5 auctions that were toraise money for Jim. There are two more auctions for the same purpose, yet you only list your own. Why aren’t the other’s included? Is it because the other two were by Tracy? The CFPC logo was supposed to be part of this review, and now it’s not included. The only place to get the remaining bottles is from CGPC. Don’t you think that if somebody wants one, they should be able to know where to get it? What’s the deal?
Sounds like a great sauce for a GREAT cause. Right on guys, and thanks Vic for another great review!!
Aj
Great article Vic! I was one of those that was wondering about this sauce up until Defcon Day 3. I talked to ChrisK at DD3 and he filled me in on the details of it. Great story behind it, great sauce, great label, and great people. I applaud the effort by these 4 (or is that 7? ) to get this done. Good job guys!
I posted about this one a few days ago. I will repeat: it is HOT!! Good work guys!
Vic, thanks for writing a great article. Thanks for the compliments Jack. They’re greatly appreciated. Brian, thank you for the testimonials. Hopefully this will help restore Vic’s credibility, since we have another person too embarrassed by his opinions to post under his usual name on here. And thank you to everyone else.
Critic on 8/17/2006 at 9:48 am said:
10/10? so much for credibility.
ahhhhh, critic, don’t be a stick in the mud. it happens to be one of the best sauces ever!! IMHO of course. and we all know I don’t really ever express myself much (note the sarcasm dripping from those words.) I LOVE THIS SAUCE, and all it’s gimmicks, these 4 guys are incredible people. try the sauce you’ll like it.
Thank You Vic for your kind words!!
The only reason that this bottle exists, is because of a passion that is shared between a group of chileheads to be united in all things chilehead, regardless of our personal differences. Some of you have seen public display of different points of view within the HSU, however I can assure you that talking smack about a fellow chilehead is not good practice. Several people played a part to make this little project a reality.
* Jim Campbell grew the peppers
* Cajohn and his krewe produced the sauce
* Angry Ryan designed the label
* eman designed the HSU shirts
* Chris K was the original brain child of this whole deal
* I just assisted in the logistics of it all.
* Vic did the review…Etc..etc..etc
The credibility of the above people and their products, have proven to be firmly established long before this review. It’s all about helping a brother out! We all witnessed the incredible accomplishment that Jim Campbell performed yesterday. This was a total act of selflessness on Jim’s part, and this unselfish spirit that Jim so professionally displayed, is the same spirit that I’m familiar with within the Fiery Food industry. Thanks to ALL of the people who make this industry what it is. Lurkers, bloggers, collectors, retailers and manufacturers, all of you.
One final thought, I respect ALL comments, regardless of my own opinion, but if you have to hide behind a false identity to make a negative comment, then it’s obvious that YOU have no credibility in being someone who can be trusted or respected…..Many Thanks again to all of you who have a Name!!!
AMEN TRACY!!
Ryan@angrypepper on 8/17/2006 at 11:17 am said:
Nick, do you have something against Tracy? In the “Stirway to Heaven” thread, you list 5 auctions that were toraise money for Jim. There are two more auctions for the same purpose, yet you only list your own. Why aren’t the other’s included? Is it because the other two were by Tracy? The CFPC logo was supposed to be part of this review, and now it’s not included. The only place to get the remaining bottles is from CGPC. Don’t you think that if somebody wants one, they should be able to know where to get it? What’s the deal?
You might want to e-mail him privately with these concerns and questions Ryan. It may get his attention if he is not at the computer blogging currently.
Critic on 8/17/2006 at 9:48 am said:
10/10? so much for credibility.
I agree.
Perfect comment Tracy…(you have mail)
what do you mean “just assisted in the logistics of it all”
Give yourself more credit there mr bones, I mean Cap’n 
Critic on 8/17/2006 at 9:48 am said:
10/10? so much for credibility.
thakswet on 8/17/2006 at 12:14 pm said:
I agree.
I don’t understand why you people have to be such jerks about things sometimes. Grow the fU** up. They did this and are also promoting the charity auction, it’s made by CaJohns so its gonna be minimum 9/10 to start, can’t you just let it be without taking jabs at a fellow blogger. Vic and others, if the ZF wasnt so close and funds werent tied up I would be in that auction in a heart best. Sorry for the negativity on this review.
pmac on 8/17/2006 at 12:22 pm said:
I don’t understand why you people have to be such jerks about things sometimes. Grow the fU** up. They did this and are also promoting the charity auction, it’s made by CaJohns so its gonna be minimum 9/10 to start, can’t you just let it be without taking jabs at a fellow blogger. Vic and others, if the ZF wasnt so close and funds werent tied up I would be in that auction in a heart best. Sorry for the negativity on this review.
Hey pmac its ok 
I look at this as affecting vic as well. He reviewed it, and in his opinion if its a 10/10, well then, thats what he thought. He doesnt need the negativity as well. Good job vic, sorry for the smack. Keep right on reviewing. Next thing you know all reviews will soon be under attack.
At least some of the negativity is from a known blogger. Well jr may know the other. IP’s are a wonderful thing
pmac on 8/17/2006 at 12:22 pm said:
I don’t understand why you people have to be such jerks about things sometimes. Grow the fU** up. They did this and are also promoting the charity auction, it’s made by CaJohns so its gonna be minimum 9/10 to start, can’t you just let it be without taking jabs at a fellow blogger. Vic and others, if the ZF wasnt so close and funds werent tied up I would be in that auction in a heart best. Sorry for the negativity on this review.
Thanks pmac, I couldn’t have said it better myself. All I have to say is unless you’ve actually tried this sauce, you have no place to question its quality, or Vic’s credibility or integrity. Thak, go back to making crab legs instead of trying to piss on everyone else’s parade. You had your day in the sun, it was a cloudy day, and you whined and complained that you got next to no comments on that review.
pmac on 8/17/2006 at 12:22 pm said:
I don’t understand why you people have to be such jerks about things sometimes. Grow the fU** up. They did this and are also promoting the charity auction, it’s made by CaJohns so its gonna be minimum 9/10 to start, can’t you just let it be without taking jabs at a fellow blogger. Vic and others, if the ZF wasnt so close and funds werent tied up I would be in that auction in a heart best. Sorry for the negativity on this review.
I agree pmac. The rating was obviously based on much more than just the sauce itself, and as such, probably deserves an 11/10. Anything less would be like rating Jim on his tremendous accomplishment and giving him a 9/10. Like you said, being a Cajohn Sauce is gonna be an automatic 9/10. The extra 1 point for everything else that goes with it is an automatic in my opinion and well deserved.
I have always felt that the reviews here are all encompassing and fair. This one came across as being no different. If anything maybe even more fair than any others as it included aspects often overlooked when doing just a taste test.
Hats off to Vic for just being honest with his description and review and rating it as he saw fit. Makes him more credible in my book tan if he would of toned down his rating because of being worried what people thought of it. Thanks Vic for KIR (Keeping it Real) !
Nick Lindauer on 8/17/2006 at 1:00 pm said:
FYI: When insulting a review or reviewer, do it from another IP. Commentors like this will be tracked down.
To see this coming from somone who is a regular blogger is just a let down.
Excellent. Glad you let them know you knew who it was, however I imagine we could all play the guessing game 
Nah that could end up in an outright brawl LOL
Everyone awaiting ZF just to kill each other
Nick Lindauer on 8/17/2006 at 12:50 pm said:
Ryan, this is not the place for comments like this nor is it warranted. Tracy knows full well I have nothing against him, I’ve helped him in the past and plan to do so if needed in the future.
The auctions listed in the thread only include the 5 I ran because I don’t have the time to monitor other auctions.
There’s a direct link to the only place chileheads can get the HSU sauce in the article (to my knowledge), which will only serve to increase the price of the auction.
Sorry, I thought this was an open forum for all things hot. There’s been a bit of trouble over the CFPC sauces in the past, and many of us are aware of the stipulations that have been placed on certain reviews by you. There are many “private label” sauces that get reviewed on here, with no mention of the actual manufacturer, just the company that markets the product. CFPC sauces are the only ones that I’ve seen that there has been any problem with due to the fact that it is manufactured by someone other than CFPC. If there really isn’t a problem with Tracy, or CFPC in general, I’m not the only one that needs convincing because some of this stuff was introduced to me by other people.
This HSU bottle was originally produced just for fun, and not for resale in mass numbers. I’ve received emails from many of you, and I haven’t had the chance to respond. I promise to return all questions, but I’ve got to go meet a pressing work deadline at the moment. THX!! As Bret would say, Peace All..
I don’t understand why such a well meaning thread got so nasty from so many directions. Chill out peeps!
Vic, good review, it’s very well written. And Tracy, your take is very well put.
Nick Lindauer on 8/17/2006 at 1:26 pm said:
Ryan - You are right, some private labels do get reviewed here with no mention of the actual manufacturer - but that’s because it’s not known or obvious.
If there was a “problem” with the CPFC sauces then this review wouldn’t be up - and if anyone thinks there is an issue they should contact me directly instead of stiring up the conspiracy theories. It’s like that school game Telephone - the message is always screwed up unless it comes from the source.
That’s why I asked questions. To help bring some clarity for all to see rather than in private e-mails that only you and I would see.
Great Review Vic. And anything to help out for charity deserves a 10/10.
i have to say that even though i am still a virgin at this, i thought the review was pulitzer material. with all the other stuff going on in this world, i think the last thing that people should start getting hostile about is a review on hot sauce. after all, there are some of the top notch officianados that compliled these 10/10 hot sauces and i believe they should be rewarded and commended in stead of having the whole thing obliterated. i am intrigued to try it. i know there are very few of the collectibles out there but i wouldnt mind having a non signed non collectable one if possible to put on some popcorn or mexican breakfest burrito. if they ever go up for sale, could someone please notify me. thanks y’all and a yee haw from me. hugs and kisses. (kisses just for the ladies out there)
general lee on 8/17/2006 at 2:06 pm said:
i have to say that even though i am still a virgin at this, i thought the review was pulitzer material. with all the other stuff going on in this world, i think the last thing that people should start getting hostile about is a review on hot sauce. after all, there are some of the top notch officianados that compliled these 10/10 hot sauces and i believe they should be rewarded and commended in stead of having the whole thing obliterated. i am intrigued to try it. i know there are very few of the collectibles out there but i wouldnt mind having a non signed non collectable one if possible to put on some popcorn or mexican breakfest burrito. if they ever go up for sale, could someone please notify me. thanks y’all and a yee haw from me. hugs and kisses. (kisses just for the ladies out there)
Thanks General. Get a hold of Tracy C. through Cape Fear Pepper Company. He’s got the remaining unsigned bottles. If enough interest is shown, maybe we can talk Tracy into producting more 
oh geez can’t we all just get along? LOL
Mrs.Ryan on 8/17/2006 at 3:08 pm said:
oh geez can’t we all just get along? LOL
Ummmmmm……. no
If I were to rate the CFPC chipotle sauce, I’d give it a ten. I see no reason why a hotter sauce couldn’t also deserve it- it’s just beyond me to taste it (sorry huv).
Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/17/2006 at 4:24 pm said:
If I were to rate the CFPC chipotle sauce, I’d give it a ten. I see no reason why a hotter sauce couldn’t also deserve it- it’s just beyond me to taste it (sorry huv).
LOL - I got you slated for a mild and medium
Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/17/2006 at 4:24 pm said:
If I were to rate the CFPC chipotle sauce, I’d give it a ten. I see no reason why a hotter sauce couldn’t also deserve it- it’s just beyond me to taste it (sorry huv).
I’ll attest to that. The Mrs. and I keep the CFPC shipotle on hand at all times. One of, if not THE, best tasting put on anything sauce out there. Mild heat by my standards, but damn tasty.
huvason on 8/17/2006 at 4:10 pm said:
Ummmmmm……. no
I’ve noticed. bunch of damn instigators around here if ya ask me.
pmac on 8/17/2006 at 1:04 pm said:
Excellent. Glad you let them know you knew who it was, however I imagine we could all play the guessing game
Nah that could end up in an outright brawl LOL
Everyone awaiting ZF just to kill each other
It wasnt me.
Scott on 8/17/2006 at 5:43 pm said:
It wasnt me.
so you say…kidding man. We know its a reg, it’ll get out sooner or later. I just hope its not “Manboobs” Clint…that’d be the second thing he’s done that ruffled a few feathers 
testing 123…..are my replys getting here?
Arizona Jack on 8/17/2006 at 8:58 pm said:
testing 123…..are my replys getting here?
I can see it here no problem!
Ryan@angrypepper on 8/17/2006 at 6:13 pm said:
so you say…kidding man. We know its a reg, it’ll get out sooner or later. I just hope its not “Manboobs” Clint…that’d be the second thing he’s done that ruffled a few feathers
it was thakswet he was the only one to agree with the comment. And the name was critic (which he is for the HSB) so you do the math.
Nick Lindauer on 8/17/2006 at 9:12 pm said:
Your math is wrong, it wasn’t thakswet. ‘Critic’ has already issued an apology via email, so let’s stop pointing fingers.
Was it me?? lol, sorry just feeling left out. lol
Nick Lindauer on 8/17/2006 at 9:18 pm said:
Nah, it was Colonel Mustard with the candlestick in the dining room.
LOL,nice…. I miss that game…… isn’t it time for another clue to Nick?
Nick Lindauer on 8/17/2006 at 9:18 pm said:
Nah, it was Colonel Mustard with the candlestick in the dining room.
Oh and Nick, btw…I used to always be Colonel Mustard when we played, so see, it was me!!!!! lol
Hot sauces on the History Channel tonight at 10:00 PM Eastern, gotta go watch, maybe y’all can too. (Picked that up from those Mississippi folks, right Randy?)
i just don’t think nothing, nothing gets a perfect 10.
that’s all.
Blair was funny
Nick Lindauer on 8/17/2006 at 9:12 pm said:
Your math is wrong, it wasn’t thakswet. ‘Critic’ has already issued an apology via email, so let’s stop pointing fingers.
Yeah I actually figured it was a long shot, I just felt like being a dic* for a minute Just to return the favor for the comment.
CaJohn on 8/17/2006 at 9:59 pm said:
Hot sauces on the History Channel tonight at 10:00 PM Eastern, gotta go watch, maybe y’all can too. (Picked that up from those Mississippi folks, right Randy?)
CaJohn thanks for the notice, I hope you let us know whenever you know about the shows with you HSB manufactures in it. I am going to record it, I see a show starting with prohibition, so I imagine the history of food to some extent.
pmac on 8/17/2006 at 10:03 pm said:
Yeah I actually figured it was a long shot, I just felt like being a dic* for a minute
Pmac..sent you an e-mail if you can help, thanx
ok how come I have gotten a couple emails asking the same questions
Are you guys talking LOL
thakswet on 8/17/2006 at 10:00 pm said:
i just don’t think nothing, nothing gets a perfect 10.
that’s all.
I disagree - there are some sauces that are deserving of it. If you want to debate it we can take it to the reviewer forum and discuss. Granted, they don’t come along often - but they are out there.
WHOA! Just logged on to pass the word about Blair on “America Eats”. I couldn’t tear away to get to the computer. Blair was Awesome. A few other mentions too, like liquid stupid. Man… to make it to the history chanel! nice job guys. We’re really in some great compamy here. They finished with a snippet about Cakalaky Private Reserve being the worlds most expensive retail hot sauce at over $98,000, but doesn’t that come with a fully catered hunting trip and upscale private party for like 100 of your friends?
pmac on 8/17/2006 at 10:14 pm said:
ok how come I have gotten a couple emails asking the same questions
Are you guys talking LOL
LOL, originating from the same place…didn’t mean to duplicate on ya. my background there, is very weak and I was guessing on most.
Thanks for the heads up, I’m 3 hours behind you east coasters and will have time to watch it live !!! Better make a beer run !!!!
Arizona Jack on 8/17/2006 at 10:35 pm said:
Thanks for the heads up, I’m 3 hours behind you east coasters and will have time to watch it live !!! Better make a beer run !!!!
You’ll be lucky to drink 1 can/bottle. It’s the beginning of the show and over within maybe 15 minutes. At least the hot sauce part..unless there’s more at the end.
I love this blog. It seems like everything I am a part of becomes a controversy.
Thanks for all the lovers…..you rock!!!!!!!!Jim Campbell rocks!!!!!!
To all the haters…….I am going to kiss my daughter Isabella good night because there are much better things to be doing than ripping on others!
Vic….thanks for the incredible review!!
I appreciate it…..I am buying your first and second round at ZF.
thebigshow on 8/17/2006 at 10:38 pm said:
You’ll be lucky to drink 1 can/bottle. It’s the beginning of the show and over within maybe 15 minutes. At least the hot sauce part..unless there’s more at the end.
Not putting anything down, it was great to see. Just didn’t want anyone thinking it was an hour show on hot sauce. Believe me, I’m still watching it, interested in the whole thing, just being a chilehead wish there was more on the hot sauce side of it.
Holy Blown out of proportions Batman!!
This is must be exactly how my parents felt when they came home from a long weekend away and my sister and threw a huge Kegger, we tore the house up and one of my buddies left a steamer on the rug in the hallway!
I am shocked, a little upset, but more then anything I am embarrassed- The only reason I agreed to do this review (Yeah I was asked to do it) was so “I” could do something cool for Jim Campbell. Something different, something no one else has done, something “I” could call my own for a guy who has done something so incredible, I could only dream halfway accomplishing. I do not take what was said as an insult- so save your apology, ( “I” didn’t get it anyway!) save your time and use it constructively. I skued the ratings on purpose, you misunderstood what I was trying to do and say. I enjoyed the sauce immensely, it is close to being one of the better sauces I have tried- ever. I would and may move it to my top five list- you can’t take that away from me, try it and I feel firmly you will honestly like it as well. I ran 10’s down the line again in honor of the guy with the Buns of Steel! In my opion it was a gift from me.
So please read this carefully and understand me completely- if you don’t understand please contact me at pepperboy143 at earthlink dot net (sorry Nick) I will gladly give you my cel #, my home # , my work # so we can talk this out and I help clearify what my intentions were and are:
I ONLY apologize for the misunderstanding of my rating on “this” review, I am totally open to any suggestion and criticism. I am always looking to improve myself in everything I do. I do not get paid to do this, I do it for fun, I do it because I love Hot Sauce, I do it from the heart, and I do it for the Chicks!
A wise man once said: “Sticks and stones…………..”
I think he also might have said “Bite Me!”
Jim, I am truelly sorry for this man- I had no idea someone would do this, my intentions were honest and true and meant it with the deepest respect to you man!
The Hot Sauce Underground, maybe it’s better under ground, I apologize to you guys as well.
Nick, I am also sorry and apologize to you, it sucks all this played out the way it did.
Thanks to all of you who stood up for what you read in the review and for the kind words.
Vic……
It’s a hell-of-a write up my friend! Good job, I say!
You have absolutely nothing to apologize for!!! Nothing…PERIOD, THE END!!!!!!
CaJohn on 8/17/2006 at 9:59 pm said:
Hot sauces on the History Channel tonight at 10:00 PM Eastern, gotta go watch, maybe y’all can too. (Picked that up from those Mississippi folks, right Randy?)
Don’t you be-a-pickn’ on us southern boys! Y’all hear!!! LOL
Vic on 8/17/2006 at 11:20 pm said:
Holy Blown out of proportions Batman!!
This is must be exactly how my parents felt when they came home from a long weekend away and my sister and threw a huge Kegger, we tore the house up and one of my buddies left a steamer on the rug in the hallway!
I am shocked, a little upset, but more then anything I am embarrassed- The only reason I agreed to do this review (Yeah I was asked to do it) was so “I” could do something cool for Jim Campbell. Something different, something no one else has done, something “I” could call my own for a guy who has done something so incredible, I could only dream halfway accomplishing. I do not take what was said as an insult- so save your apology, ( “I” didn’t get it anyway!) save your time and use it constructively. I skued the ratings on purpose, you misunderstood what I was trying to do and say. I enjoyed the sauce immensely, it is close to being one of the better sauces I have tried- ever. I would and may move it to my top five list- you can’t take that away from me, try it and I feel firmly you will honestly like it as well. I ran 10’s down the line again in honor of the guy with the Buns of Steel! In my opion it was a gift from me.
So please read this carefully and understand me completely- if you don’t understand please contact me at pepperboy143 at earthlink dot net (sorry Nick) I will gladly give you my cel #, my home # , my work # so we can talk this out and I help clearify what my intentions were and are:
I ONLY apologize for the misunderstanding of my rating on “this” review, I am totally open to any suggestion and criticism. I am always looking to improve myself in everything I do. I do not get paid to do this, I do it for fun, I do it because I love Hot Sauce, I do it from the heart, and I do it for the Chicks!
A wise man once said: “Sticks and stones…………..”
I think he also might have said “Bite Me!”Jim, I am truelly sorry for this man- I had no idea someone would do this, my intentions were honest and true and meant it with the deepest respect to you man!
The Hot Sauce Underground, maybe it’s better under ground, I apologize to you guys as well.
Nick, I am also sorry and apologize to you, it sucks all this played out the way it did.
Thanks to all of you who stood up for what you read in the review and for the kind words.
you know Vic, I totally disagree with you. This sauce was cooked up and bottled and signed and distributed with the greatest of intentions by 4 wonderful men who formed a bond and a friendship, THIS SAUCE DOES NOT BELONG UNDERGROUND, it belongs in our faces demanding to be eaten, you did one hell of a job on this review for a man who has all of us wishing we could be like him ( go jim we love you) or 1/4 the man he is, and has accomplished, YOU VIC owe none of us an apology (except Nick you gave out your email in a post) The HSU guys put up this out there in an auction as way to help Jim, Your review was to help raise awareness of this sauce for his cause, NEVER apologize for something you believe in. anyone who asks you to, I say stick your middle finger in the air at them and wave it proudly.
Eman, Tracy,Booger, and Ryan no matter the conspiracy theories or wild tangents or moderations or jobs and new babies etc, would do what they could for most of us on this blog, I hope that doesn’t change.
Nick, thank you for letting this review be posted and putting up with all the crap.
and to the rest of you I LOVE YOU MAN!!!!!!!!(most of you)
I ONLY apologize for the turmoil- NOT for what I wrote, I wrote it because it came from the heart. I ONLY apologize for the negativity this thread has overall to the good name and hard effort Jim gave of himself, this was primarily for him and his cause. And I ONLY apologize to the HSU for not being able to enjoy a post about them in a positive light. I too can shoot back ugliness to the few who ruined this post, but I won’t, it’s not worth my time. To me that would mean it has to be defended, and no matter what was said- I wrote it the way I wanted and I don’t have to defend myself. Believe what I write or don’t, agree with what I write or don’t, question what I wite or don’t- it’s your choice and it’s OK. I am just ticked off that the overall light of this post is a negative one now, with the reasonings why it was done were so positive.
I appreciate it Vic, eman, & others. I was more than happy to accept the review at face value- you certainly know your sauces Vic!
One comment, if left ignored, can’t ruin the thread. It’s still positive as I read it
Thanks again!
Vic on 8/18/2006 at 6:22 am said:
I ONLY apologize for the turmoil- NOT for what I wrote, I wrote it because it came from the heart. I ONLY apologize for the negativity this thread has overall to the good name and hard effort Jim gave of himself, this was primarily for him and his cause. And I ONLY apologize to the HSU for not being able to enjoy a post about them in a positive light. I too can shoot back ugliness to the few who ruined this post, but I won’t, it’s not worth my time. To me that would mean it has to be defended, and no matter what was said- I wrote it the way I wanted and I don’t have to defend myself. Believe what I write or don’t, agree with what I write or don’t, question what I wite or don’t- it’s your choice and it’s OK. I am just ticked off that the overall light of this post is a negative one now, with the reasonings why it was done were so positive.
Vic, you rock. HSU, you rock. I don’t think anyone was shooting at Jim or you; it sounds more like a philosophical discussion. As Jim said, ignoring some things makes helps them die.
I’m sure everyone supports Jim wholeheartedly and the efforts you gentlemen made to assist in his noble pursuit. There’s gold in heaven for helping others.
BTW - go see the movie WTC. Saw it last weekend. It was a hard movie to watch, but very well done.
Firefighter? Charity promoter? World record holder? And a peacemaker on HSB? Jim, you truly are a role model! Great response.
MSK on 8/18/2006 at 12:55 am said:
Don’t you be-a-pickn’ on us southern boys! Y’all hear!!! LOL
dat’s rite MSK, yew tell ‘em buddy!
John’s really a rebel to, just fraid to admit it.
Hey DK, the Mamba Jerky is in the house!! Thanks dude!
The “Mamba Jerky”, hmmmm sounds like a new chilehead dance.
Vic….don’t sweat it. You did good. The open minded people understood what you were doing.
eman on 8/18/2006 at 7:21 pm said:
Vic….don’t sweat it. You did good. The open minded people understood what you were doing.
Thanks man, Knew I could count on you
You know, I have not posted anything on the Blog for awhile, mostly due to being ungodly busy at my Restaurant, but I had a break and decided to try and read and catch up, and then I come across this thread.
I’d like to think that each one of us Blogger’s are more than just words and names on a thread. We have met with each other at Defcon events, flown across the country to see each other at trade shows, we are even sending labels around the world for the mere fact of having a bottle of hot sauce that is signed by our fellow chileheads. I consider that to be a tight group of friends and compadres. Unfortunately, as with any group of individuals, there are always spin off groups, buddy alliances, secret sects or whatever you want to call them, that form within a group and some members of the main group don’t know how to deal with them. Sometimes this is based on geography, sometimes just plain ole compatability This is understandable and should be expected as it will always be a part of life..
What I am trying to say is that if we want to be part of a large group of die hard chilieheads, brothers and sisters in the hot sauce revolution, then we need to allow for the existance of sub-groups and alliances that are formed within the main group and not give them a bunch of crap.
I can easily appreciate the formation of the HSU, and its novelty sauce. Hell, I wish I would have thought of it first. Not everybody got to go to the Fiery Food Show last year, and I am sure that there was some “left out feelings”. But, I also would like to add here that its also hard for alot of us to see the Defcon days on the Blog that we can’t attend, or other trade shows that are discussed that some could not make it to as well.
It troubles me that a sauce made by a unique clic within the Blog, one that is being sold to raise money for charity!!! Would suffer re-buff and unfair criticisms, baised on its review, its origination and its originators. I think the underlying reason is resentment to the formation of the HSU by non-members. I don’t mean to offend anyone here, but there has to be a reson for some of the comments in this thread. I would like to see our special group re-kindle its flame based on what this Blog and this Chiliehead community is based on. Friendship, comaradery, learning and sharing about the unique world of hot sauce, chiles and all things chiliehead.
I probably don’t have the right to make such an imposing long statement, but I feel strongly about this group of people and this Blog. I am looking forward to seeing some of you again and some of you for the first time at Zest Fest, and as such, felt compelled to make a few comments here today. As Blair is quick to point out Karma, so do I point out that Karma is very important and should be remembered when typing words out for all to read without thinking about the implications first. I apologize for my remarks and to anyone they offend. Long live the HSB and all its members.
Very well put Cheffy, looking forward to seeing you there!
Ditto, well written and well thought out. See you at ZF.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Cheffy! It is truly appreciated.
TC
Could have not said it better, Cheffy !!!!!
Well said Cheffy!!!
Problem is…Over the last several months we’ve seen way too many reviews go awry in the same manner. Hell I love a good round of banter like anyone else, but when it breaks out into an argument…I have a tendency to say “Adios” until cooler heads prevail. The review is no longer of interest.
BUT…I stayed around for this one because I know and understand the exact nature of the sauce, when it was done, why it was done, who it was for and why the review was done in the way it was. It doesn’t take a rocket scienctist to figure it out!
It would be interesting to know of all the reviews (or any/all topics) how many met the same fate!
MSK
I will update your collection at ZF06, I’ll bring the new ones with me my friend.
JimC, I’m going to add the #1 ZF06 Red Savina bottle to the auction for ya buddy, that will make a set of 3 #1’s for your charity, I just have to wait untill the sauce and the labels are done, you all will see it on my ebay site probably the last week of Aug.
All HSB’rs lets give this one a go also, JimC will get 100% of the $$$
Rock on and Peace out bro’s
Aj
Drama, drama, drama… Sheesh.
I thought the review was well written, and if Vic feels the sauce deserves a ten, I’ll take his word on it. But I don’t see the big deal about the earlier comments questioning the rating. So they disagree, who cares? In a public forum such as this, they have a right to disagree and a right to state their disagreement.
It doesn’t make the post “negative” in my opinion. And if it does, it’s only because you guys let it. I can understand why several of the regulars would be defensive about their sauce, but take it easy. People are allowed to disagree!
Great review, Vic! Keep up the good work!
Arizona Jack on 8/19/2006 at 4:18 am said:
MSK
I will update your collection at ZF06, I’ll bring the new ones with me my friend.
JimC, I’m going to add the #1 ZF06 Red Savina bottle to the auction for ya buddy, that will make a set of 3 #1’s for your charity, I just have to wait untill the sauce and the labels are done, you all will see it on my ebay site probably the last week of Aug.
All HSB’rs lets give this one a go also, JimC will get 100% of the $$$
Rock on and Peace out bro’s
Aj
You’re too kind sir! I sincerely appreciate it & look forward to seeing you at ZF.
On the road to Madison IN for the Ribberfest
Ethan on 8/19/2006 at 9:48 am said:
Drama, drama, drama… Sheesh.
I thought the review was well written, and if Vic feels the sauce deserves a ten, I’ll take his word on it. But I don’t see the big deal about the earlier comments questioning the rating. So they disagree, who cares? In a public forum such as this, they have a right to disagree and a right to state their disagreement.
It doesn’t make the post “negative” in my opinion. And if it does, it’s only because you guys let it. I can understand why several of the regulars would be defensive about their sauce, but take it easy. People are allowed to disagree!
Great review, Vic! Keep up the good work!
I don’t think it was the fact that anyone disagreed, I agree that its anyone’s right to disagree. I won’t speak for everyone, but me personally, thought it was a pretty low thing to trash someone’s credibility for the sole reason that you disagree, and to be so cowardly as to post it under a different name and e-mail address. If you’re so ashamed of your comment that you have to hide who you are, don’t post it. Its like showing up at a potest wearing a ski mask. If its something you beleive in, why not let the world know? Because you’re afraid of what society will say and you have no real pride. Yes, an apology e-mail was sent, but its still cowardly to stay “in the closet”. What a joke.
Damn T-man (I mean Cap’n Bones) a 10 out of 10!
You just want another bottle, dont you vic???
Glad it could help out Jim’s cause.