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Interview with Capitol Punishment Foods
Posted on 05.13.06 by John @ 9:05 am | Comments: |
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Chef Gordon Cameron 1

I recently had the pleasure of talking food, wine and hot sauce with Chef Gordon Cameron, proprietor of Capitol Punishment Food.

Well versed in the food business, but new to the hot sauce arena, Chef Gordon is already making a splash among chiliheads with his line of gourmet sauces, featuring heat AND flavor. His Gar-Banero just recently won first prize in the hot sauce category in Kato’s Amateur Fiery Food Contest, 2006. And reviews of Capitol Punishment’s sauces will be coming in the next few days!

Capitol Punishment Foods - Innocent Until Proven Spicy
Gordon Cameron, Proprietor
Capitol Punishment Foods, Inc.
1355 S. Carolina Ave. NE, #B
Washington, DC 20003

HSB: Let’s start out with the basics. How’d you get yourself into the hot sauce business? And how did you get the name Capitol Punishment?

Chef Gordon: The first part ties a lot into being a food professional for a long time. I started washing dishes when I was 14. I went to culinary school, attended Johnson and Wales and worked my way up to a culinary chef in DC, where I’ve been in the food industry for 18 years. I noticed there was a niche market for sauces that had culinary value - consumers are getting tired of useless red water (a play on Letterman’s decaf coffee slogan: Useless brown water.)

Through meeting people online at the Hot Sauce Blog and the Hot Pepper Forum, I’ve found there are a lot of people fighting the good fight - doing heat and flavor. It’s not all about peppers, vinegar and salt. I try to make sauces with a lot of culinary value. I try and build my sauces the same way I’d build a classical french sauce. When I make a sauce, I put a lot of love into it.

Moving to the capitol in DC, the seat of the three worlds, Capitol Punishment wasn’t much of a stretch. Working with all the people on the hill, and there being a bit of masochism in hot sauce, the name just came.

HSB: And your thoughts on heat vs. taste? Where does the balance fall? And how do you know when you’ve found the perfect combination?

Chef Gordon: Heat and flavor has redefined the market. The consumer is much more aware of what is out there, and what goes into what they consume. I try to appeal to the largest market that I can. There are people out there that don’t like really spicy food; others think if it doesn’t kill them it’s not spicy enough. So I try to appeal to both ends of the spectrum.

There are entry level sauces, to get you in the door. One of the more interesting I make is the Asian Pear sauce. A lot of fruits carry the essential elements you want to have in a sauce - natural acidity and natural sweetness. A ripe fruit is balanced to start off. I also do a green serrano that uses white grapes. White grape is a perfect balance; it has the consistency of a tomatillo; it carries a natural acidity, and a natural sweetness. Why dump a lot of sugar in when nature does it for you?

I want each ingredient to stand on it’s own, but not blow the others away. Learning about flavor profiles, you want it to be balanced. I’ve heard a lot of good feedback about a my sauce’s nice balance - balance between sweetness, heat and robust flavors. Right now vidalias are in season; I’m using them in my sauces. They are available, fresh, and fantastic. Some makers like to hand their sauces over to co-packers who want to use dried ingredients. I want to have a say in the ingredients that go into them.

One of my sauces, the Gar-Banero, won first place in Kato’s Fiery Food competition. It’s a simple base, but I work in roasted garlic and roasted shallots, to exemplify the natural sweetness. This adds a roastiness as a base, and the Caribbean habaneros give it heavy heat.

HSB: That is definetly a great trend in hot sauce. As a consumer, the option to have fresh sauces sauces that taste like they came straight out of the kitchen didn’t always exists a few years ago.

Chef Gordon: When I was first starting up in the business, I was told the co-packer was the way to go. The logic is that you want to spend you time selling the product, not making it. I looked at that. But, it’s not easy to make sure the sauce will get done exactly like you want. Some co-packers want to substitute dried ingredients for fresh. That’s not how I want my sauces made. It’s not about just trying to make the best business decision. My goal is to put out the best sauce I can. I love it when someone looks at it, tastes it, and smiles. And then soaks their tongue in sour cream.

HSB: What’s your best selling product?

Chef Gordon: Depends on who you talk to. The Jalapeno Asian Pear is locally one of best sellers.

HSB: And what should be the best selling - which is your favorite Capitol Punishment sauce?

Chef Gordon: It’s almost like picking which is your favorite kid. I’d have to say, I like them each on their own merit. I wouldn’t produce them if I didn’t like them. Each one is so different, so unique.

The Gar-Banero is a straight forward hot sauce. It’s red, thin, with lots of potency. But, it’s got flavor behind it to back it up. The roasted garlic, shallots, onions give it a rich flavor.

The Must-Have Mango features orange habaneros, a proprietary jerk seasoning, and the mango on the back. I didn’t want to do a tooty-fruity sauce, I wanted the orange habanero first, followed by island spices, and the mango on the back end bringing out the exotic flavor.

The Smokey Sear-Acha is sriracha style sauce. It uses a dried pepper, the japone (santaka). It’s a thin-walled Asian pepper. It has such a great flavor, a nice middle of the road heat. I couple that with 50% chipotle for a smokey touch. It’s not an overbearing chipotle flavor, but has smoke in the background. I’ve heard people use it straight up for Memphis style barbecue, or Korean style barbecue. I brushed on baby octopus; that was phenomenal, out of this world. I’ll also put it in white chicken chili.

The Jalapeno Asian Pear works great with sandwiches. Put it with mayo, and it adds a well balanced kick. That’s my introductory sauce, the least in pop. I wanted the jalapeno flavor matching with the pear flavor on a background of garlic-ginger.

HSB: Do you have a favorite sauce by another producer?

Chef Gordon: There are people out there doing the heat and flavor thing. (Laughs) This is going to be a kind of shout out to the people who’ve helped me, you know? There’s the Three Hot Tamales, Cajohn, Defcon, Mild to Wild, Peppermaster. Everyone’s been helped out by Dan from BLP labels. Of course, Blair’s. That’s the Metallica of the hot sauce industry. (Laughs) And God. And my parents.

HSB: How have you found your relationship with other producers in the industry? Is it cut throat and competitive? A friendly camaraderie? Or somewhere in between?

Chef Gordon: I’m months old in this business. I really started off testing stuff in my kitchen, testing on friends and family. What do you like, what do you not like? I’ll adapt to the palate. Don’t just tell me you like it because you know me.

These people (see other producers above) have helped me with questions every single time. They are completely and totally willing to let new people in. It’s a giving, sharing community that I’m proud to be a part of.

As far as DC goes, there’s only one other guy that makes hot sauce, and has been doing it for 15 years, named Uncle Brutha’s. He just opened a hot sauce emporium a mile away from my house. You know what? I went in, and he was happy to have another local hot sauce in his store. He’s going to carry my whole line. It’s not like, “you’re a competitor, and I’m going to put you out of business.” It’s like, the more the merrier.

HSB: Lets play a little word association. I’ll give you a word, you tell me what you think of. Ready?

Chipotle - smoky sun
Sweat - just do it
Heat - heat, not just for heat’s sake
Garlic - love it, use it, roast it
extract - too hot for me
Ring of Fire - gonna burn twice

HSB: Can you give the readers of HSB a sneak peek into where you see Capitol Punishment Foods going? Any new products or surprises on the horizon?

Chef Gordon: I’m going to look at two new hot sauces. One will be a prickly pear sauce. The other is a smoked cherry barbecue sauce with a port reduction. Smoked, dried cherries, smoked chipotles, and red jalapenos. Also coming up is a line salsas.

The biggest thing I have going will be a commissary style kitchen where I’m going to be co-packing myself out of my kitchen; that’s about a year out, but we’re looking at space in DC metro. I want the barbecue dad market with in store grill demos, parking lot demo, and picking up contracts for people who want to make their own stuff. I had a bit of a barrier getting into that myself; there wasn’t anyone within an hour and a half drive. I think there’s room for people with a culinary mind who want to work with, not compete with, people like themselves.

HSB: Sounds like you have a lot on your plate!

Chef Gordon: Sure do, but I have a passion for it so, it hardly seems like work.

HSB: Where’s the best place for our readers to get a hold of your capitol punishment sauces?

Chef Gordon: The best place right now is on our website, http://www.capitolpunishmentfoods.com/.

I’m starting a local hot sauce club once a month at a local tavern called the Black Rooster. There will be food and beer specials. Anyone in driving distance, there’s a sign up sheet at Uncle Brutha’s hot sauce emporium. It’ll be all about Hot Stuff, almost like the equivalent of a wine club.

HSB: And to finish up, if you can describe Capitol Punishment Sauces in three words or less, they would be…

Chef Gordon: Big F’in Flavor.

Chef Gordon Cameron 2


Chilehead Comments:
Posted by: John - Categories: Hot Sauce Manufacturers
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Comment #1:
Comment by Scotty B's Hot Sauces (150) - 5/13/2006 @ 10:12 am | [ Quote ]

Well let me be the first to say, great review for both John and Gordon.
Gordon and Scotty B will be side by side at ZestFest this year and it sounds like we will be having a hellfire of time together.
Hooray! for Capital Punishment.
-Scotty B

Comment #2:
Comment by Dan @ BLP Labels (379) - 5/13/2006 @ 10:21 am | [ Quote ]

Great interview John! I have talked to Gordon a couple of times and I can say that the man has passion about his sauces! Congrats on your 1st place from Katos, Gordon!

ZestFest is so gonna ROCK!!

Comment #3:
Comment by Aaron (1014) - 5/13/2006 @ 10:23 am | [ Quote ]

I can tell this man knows about his food! I mean baby octopus is the bomb! lol
Great review as well! Very informative which is what a good review should be like :)

Comment #4:
Comment by Anthony (347) - 5/13/2006 @ 10:28 am | [ Quote ]

Well done!!!

Comment #5:
Comment by MattUK (713) - 5/13/2006 @ 10:47 am | [ Quote ]

go on Gordon - bite down I dare ya :evil:

Comment #6:
Comment by MattUK (713) - 5/13/2006 @ 10:48 am | [ Quote ]

Great interview!!

Comment #7:
Comment by thakswet (524) - 5/13/2006 @ 11:07 am | [ Quote ]

great job with the interview.

Comment #8:
Comment by Lee@DC (643) - 5/13/2006 @ 12:02 pm | [ Quote ]

Great Interview, John.
Gordon, your sauces sound awesome! I really want to try the Siracha style sauce. I can’t wait to steal a bottle in Zestfest….

Comment #9:
Comment by Gordon (55) - 5/13/2006 @ 12:13 pm | [ Quote ]

Thanks John! Nice job with the interview. I had a blast talking to you. The Smoky-SearAcha is 15% Chipotles not 50%. ZestFest is going to be my first National show. I’ll have plenty of beer under the booth for nerves management. It’s going to be one wild corner over by Chile Pepper Magazine, right Scott! Come visit. Yeah, and try the sauces.

Comment #10:
Comment by huvason (3717) - 5/13/2006 @ 12:55 pm | [ Quote ]

Gordon on 5/13/2006 at 12:13 pm said:

Thanks John! Nice job with the interview. I had a blast talking to you. The Smoky-SearAcha is 15% Chipotles not 50%. ZestFest is going to be my first National show. I’ll have plenty of beer under the booth for nerves management. It’s going to be one wild corner over by Chile Pepper Magazine, right Scott! Come visit. Yeah, and try the sauces.

Hey Gordon - Congrats on the interview! I feel better now - at least I came in second to a professional :) I can’t wait to try the sauce that beat me!

Comment #11:
Comment by huvason (3717) - 5/13/2006 @ 1:06 pm | [ Quote ]

Oh yeah- great interview John

Comment #12:
Comment by Gabby K (2) - 5/13/2006 @ 1:28 pm | [ Quote ]

Gordon - great interview

Visions of Jalapeno Asian Pear dance in my head….thanks for making my days so much spicier. Looks like I’ll have to join Sean and the Vidalia crew at the Black Rooster…

Comment #13:
Comment by Scotty B's Hot Sauces (150) - 5/13/2006 @ 2:02 pm | [ Quote ]

Oh Yeah!!, From the look of things our row will have some great products in it!! Including the Chilie Grill, I’m sure they will be doing Jalapeno Poppers-Yummy for Gordon’s and Scotty B’s tummies.
Viva la ZestFest!!!
-Scotty

Comment #14:
Comment by d from seattle (1) - 5/13/2006 @ 2:31 pm | [ Quote ]

you still owe my mom a sixpack, gordie you ba$tard. the next note’s going to the BBB!

Comment #15:
Comment by Gordon (55) - 5/13/2006 @ 3:07 pm | [ Quote ]

Gabby K on 5/13/2006 at 1:28 pm said:

Gordon - great interview

Visions of Jalapeno Asian Pear dance in my head….thanks for making my days so much spicier. Looks like I’ll have to join Sean and the Vidalia crew at the Black Rooster…

and I’ll look for you guys at the DC101 Chilecook off. ChileHeadz first meeting is going to be the last week of June. It’s going to be a blast!

Comment #16:
Comment by Nick Lindauer (1014) - 5/13/2006 @ 3:18 pm | [ Quote ]

The HSB now has a picture gallery! - Check it out here. All the Pimp Your Sauce images are up as well as a ton of other stuff - Collectors Shots, 2005 & 2006 Fiery Food Show Images and much much more! Also, a random image from the gallery is now served in the right hand side column near the Missed Something Section.

Comment #17:
Comment by MrFreeze (823) - 5/13/2006 @ 3:23 pm | [ Quote ]

Nick Lindauer on 5/13/2006 at 3:18 pm said:

The HSB now has a picture gallery! - Check it out here. All the Pimp Your Sauce images are up as well as a ton of other stuff - Collectors Shots, 2005 & 2006 Fiery Food Show Images and much much more! Also, a random image from the gallery is now served in the right hand side column near the Missed Something Section.

Very nice Nick, that is awesome !!!!

Comment #18:
Comment by Tracy C (1311) - 5/13/2006 @ 3:33 pm | [ Quote ]

Nick Lindauer on 5/13/2006 at 3:18 pm said:

The HSB now has a picture gallery! - Check it out here. All the Pimp Your Sauce images are up as well as a ton of other stuff - Collectors Shots, 2005 & 2006 Fiery Food Show Images and much much more! Also, a random image from the gallery is now served in the right hand side column near the Missed Something Section.

Very nice Nick!

Home Run!!!

Comment #19:
Comment by MattUK (713) - 5/13/2006 @ 3:34 pm | [ Quote ]

Nick Lindauer on 5/13/2006 at 3:18 pm said:

The HSB now has a picture gallery! - Check it out here. All the Pimp Your Sauce images are up as well as a ton of other stuff - Collectors Shots, 2005 & 2006 Fiery Food Show Images and much much more! Also, a random image from the gallery is now served in the right hand side column near the Missed Something Section.

That’s cool Nick. Awesome job :!:

Comment #20:
Comment by Gordon (55) - 5/13/2006 @ 3:38 pm | [ Quote ]

Nick Lindauer on 5/13/2006 at 3:18 pm said:

The HSB now has a picture gallery! - Check it out here. All the Pimp Your Sauce images are up as well as a ton of other stuff - Collectors Shots, 2005 & 2006 Fiery Food Show Images and much much more! Also, a random image from the gallery is now served in the right hand side column near the Missed Something Section.

Looks great man!

Comment #21:
Comment by MrFreeze (823) - 5/13/2006 @ 3:41 pm | [ Quote ]

Nick, now I know that you had a hard time choosing the final 15 in the pimp your sauce contest. You did a super job !!!!!

Comment #22:
Trackback by The Art of the Blog - 5/13/2006 @ 4:53 pm | [ Quote ]

#1 Tasty Diet Tip

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Comment #23:
Comment by Aaron (1014) - 5/13/2006 @ 4:56 pm | [ Quote ]

Nick Lindauer on 5/13/2006 at 3:18 pm said:

The HSB now has a picture gallery! - Check it out here. All the Pimp Your Sauce images are up as well as a ton of other stuff - Collectors Shots, 2005 & 2006 Fiery Food Show Images and much much more! Also, a random image from the gallery is now served in the right hand side column near the Missed Something Section.

Most awesome! Thanks man. Once again Nick steps up to the plate!

Comment #24:
Comment by John (132) - 5/13/2006 @ 8:27 pm | [ Quote ]

Thanks for all the great feedback, guys! But honestly, any and all credit goes to Gordon - I just had to type fast enough to try and catch all the wisdom!

And Gordon, thanks again for your time. That was one of the best food discussions I’ve had in a long while- I really enjoyed it.

Hmm, I had been thinking I’d shoot for the fiery foods show in NM next year, but it sounds like ZestFest is shaping up to be a great time too…May have to start talking (begging) to the wife.

Comment #25:
Comment by loco luna brian (1290) - 5/13/2006 @ 8:51 pm | [ Quote ]

Nick Lindauer on 5/13/2006 at 3:18 pm said:

The HSB now has a picture gallery! - Check it out here. All the Pimp Your Sauce images are up as well as a ton of other stuff - Collectors Shots, 2005 & 2006 Fiery Food Show Images and much much more! Also, a random image from the gallery is now served in the right hand side column near the Missed Something Section.

Great addition. I was just disappointed to not find the nasty looking “not tamales” there :) !

Comment #26:
Comment by Jodie (1079) - 5/13/2006 @ 9:13 pm | [ Quote ]

Go Chef Gordon! Great interview John! Thumbs up to both of you!

Comment #27:
Comment by Dragon835 (14) - 5/13/2006 @ 10:06 pm | [ Quote ]

When can we expect to see these sauces on SNS? They sound very good!! And yes, Blair is the “Metallica” of the hot sauce world!! Thanks.

Comment #28:
Comment by DK (2414) - 5/13/2006 @ 10:08 pm | [ Quote ]

Nick Lindauer on 5/13/2006 at 3:18 pm said:

The HSB now has a picture gallery! - Check it out here. All the Pimp Your Sauce images are up as well as a ton of other stuff - Collectors Shots, 2005 & 2006 Fiery Food Show Images and much much more! Also, a random image from the gallery is now served in the right hand side column near the Missed Something Section.

Looks great Nick! I found it earlier through the random pic link in the right hand column. Nice feature. Any possibility of posting comments for the pics?

Comment #29:
Comment by Tracy C (1311) - 5/14/2006 @ 8:25 am | [ Quote ]

Nice job Gordon and John!!! Very well done..

Comment #30:
Comment by Jodie (1079) - 5/14/2006 @ 7:39 pm | [ Quote ]

Gordon on 5/13/2006 at 12:13 pm said:

Thanks John! Nice job with the interview. I had a blast talking to you. The Smoky-SearAcha is 15% Chipotles not 50%. ZestFest is going to be my first National show. I’ll have plenty of beer under the booth for nerves management. It’s going to be one wild corner over by Chile Pepper Magazine, right Scott! Come visit. Yeah, and try the sauces.

We won’t be to far away. Don’t worry Gordon, you will have ablast! Can’t wait to try your sauces!

Comment #31:
Comment by John (132) - 5/15/2006 @ 8:16 pm | [ Quote ]

Don’t worry y’all, the reviews are coming soon. I finally got my paws on the sauces today - the darn UPS around here has terrible hours, and they didn’t see fit to leave them at my place (probably a good ide, got to watch out for the hot sauce bandits around here.) Anyhow, reviews are coming soo, I promise.

Comment #32:
Comment by Aaron (1014) - 5/15/2006 @ 8:44 pm | [ Quote ]

John on 5/15/2006 at 8:16 pm said:

Don’t worry y’all, the reviews are coming soon. I finally got my paws on the sauces today - the darn UPS around here has terrible hours, and they didn’t see fit to leave them at my place (probably a good ide, got to watch out for the hot sauce bandits around here.) Anyhow, reviews are coming soo, I promise.

Man UPS can be a pain here too! I mean don’t most people work from 8 to 5? That is usually the only time they deliver! It is much easier not having to chase them down

Comment #33:
Comment by Ryan (2615) - 5/15/2006 @ 8:53 pm | [ Quote ]

Aaron on 5/15/2006 at 8:44 pm said:

Man UPS can be a pain here too! I mean don’t most people work from 8 to 5? That is usually the only time they deliver! It is much easier not having to chase them down

That’s why I have my stuff shipped to my office

Comment #34:
Comment by John (132) - 5/15/2006 @ 9:46 pm | [ Quote ]

No kidding! I usually work past 6:00, so their delivery times of before 5:00 don’t work so well, and the store closes for pick up at 6:30 which is tight. Usually they just leave it on my doorstep, but not this time for some reason.

Comment #35:
Comment by huvason (3717) - 5/15/2006 @ 9:47 pm | [ Quote ]

John on 5/15/2006 at 9:46 pm said:

No kidding! I usually work past 6:00, so their delivery times of before 5:00 don’t work so well, and the store closes for pick up at 6:30 which is tight. Usually they just leave it on my doorstep, but not this time for some reason.

My UPS guy leaves anything, no matter what the weather! Rain sleet snow, I’ll find boxes on my steps!

Comment #36:
Comment by Cheffy (401) - 5/17/2006 @ 6:17 pm | [ Quote ]

First, nice interview!! and Second, I love the photo gallery, nice job Nick!!

Comment #37:
Comment by Tracy C (1311) - 5/19/2006 @ 12:51 am | [ Quote ]

Gordon, I haven’t read this post yet. I soon will. Just wanted to say Welcome to the HSB. I have heard many great things about your sauces. :)

Comment #38:
Comment by Dan@ BLP Labels (379) - 9/12/2006 @ 4:50 pm | [ Quote ]

Congrats Gordon on your five awards at ZestFest!!

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