I thought the Halloween Reserves would already come signed? Oh, on second thought, maybe he’s doing the signing and numbering in public.

Hmmm, perhaps I’m a little confused (more than usual), but is he offering the Halloween Reserve on the website or just at Peppers?

I’m sure there will be some twists to this as there has been with the last few reserves he’s put out. Guess we’ll have to wait until he decides we need to know something.

Nick - This seems more like a paid commercial ad for blair than an informational blog posting. Is this a new direction for HSB? Maybe you should consider adding a commercial section to help us get away from the rambling chat room stuff.

Nick Lindauer on 9/29/2006 at 6:14 pm said:

Earl - it’s an information post in my opinion because #1 the HSB makes no money on posts like this (or any for that matter) and #2 where else could a collector learn that Blair will be signing bottles at Peppers?

So anybody can post upcoming events, info cool.

Nick Lindauer on 9/29/2006 at 6:14 pm said:

Earl - it’s an information post in my opinion because #1 the HSB makes no money on posts like this (or any for that matter) and #2 where else could a collector learn that Blair will be signing bottles at Peppers?

Well, if Blair himself would post such things on his own site, collectors could hear about it there. I think the point, and I could be worng, is that even though Blair is a manufacturer, he is also a retailer. Doe this then open the door for retailers other than SNS to advertise on the HSB?

Amendment to above comment:

Does the fact that Blair is a retailer, and his product is being advertised here, does that open the door for all retailers to advertise on the HSB?

Nick Lindauer on 9/29/2006 at 6:48 pm said:

If the retailer is also a manufacturer, then yes - we’ve made this distinction plenty of times before.

Just clarifying. Thank you.

Nick Lindauer on 9/29/2006 at 6:48 pm said:

If the retailer is also a manufacturer, then yes - we’ve made this distinction plenty of times before.

Is this limited only to online retailers or any retailer?

Nick - I owned a marketing company for 25 years and have written thousands of promo pieces and ads. Believe me, terms like “for a limited time only” and ” take a chance and save 40%” are very hard core sales pitches. I’d say his own site would be best for this approach. So far as his signing party, I intend to do the same at Jungle Jims and others, so I guess I can advertise that here on HSB too, right? E.Z.

E.Z. Earl on 9/29/2006 at 7:09 pm said:

Nick - I owned a marketing company for 25 years and have written thousands of promo pieces and ads. Believe me, terms like “for a limited time only” and ” take a chance and save 40%” are very hard core sales pitches. I’d say his own site would be best for this approach. So far as his signing party, I intend to do the same at Jungle Jims and others, so I guess I can advertise that here on HSB too, right? E.Z.

Looks like you already did…lol

BLANE on 9/29/2006 at 7:20 pm said:

Looks like you already did…lol

SHHHHHH! Not so loud Blane! Note there was no date posted, however.

Ok, Nick. Thanks for the invite.

Great information Nick, I ordered the Treasue Chest, I had one of the 3am’s signed for my 8 1/2 month old son, and was able to pick up the JD at a dirt cheap price… Thanks for the thread or I might have missed out…. I’ll keep you informed on what I get in the Treasure box…. Great promotinal Ideal I wish more would do it…. Well I guess they do and you have Posted them, like Baby thats hot and others, maybe it’s just who you posted this time thats ruffled some feather’s, go figure… Like I heard before if you don’t like it don’t read it.

Have a good one.

Buy the way got the package yesterday, thanks for the extra’s ate the popcorn tonight.

Blane - I have no problem with Blair or any other brand, so you’re off base on your assumption. Is HSB a level playing field for all makers? No, I don’t think so. I see a definite bias toward the brands Nick sells in his store, which makes this less a forum and more an S&S promotional site. Sorry, that’s the way it comes across.

Right on…. Learn it… Live it…Love it….

E.Z. Earl on 9/29/2006 at 8:26 pm said:

Blane - I have no problem with Blair or any other brand, so you’re off base on your assumption. Is HSB a level playing field for all makers? No, I don’t think so. I see a definite bias toward the brands Nick sells in his store, which makes this less a forum and more an S&S promotional site. Sorry, that’s the way it comes across.

Ummmm Earl……You couldn’t be more wrong. If you take a look at half of the reviews I have done over the last year they are not available on Sweat N Spice. In fact Nick has done quite a bit to promote other web-sites as well. Do some research and learn the facts before you make an assumption.

You have been here for awhile and reaping the rewards of information posted here. To call out something like this is pretty petty.

E.Z. Earl on 9/29/2006 at 8:26 pm said:

Blane - I have no problem with Blair or any other brand, so you’re off base on your assumption. Is HSB a level playing field for all makers? No, I don’t think so. I see a definite bias toward the brands Nick sells in his store, which makes this less a forum and more an S&S promotional site. Sorry, that’s the way it comes across.

I just called….. to say…….. I LOVe U……… and I mean that from the bottom of my HeeeArttt……

BLANE on 9/29/2006 at 9:16 pm said:

I just called….. to say…….. I LOVe U……… and I mean that from the bottom of my HeeeArttt……

And I thought that was another one of those darned telemarketers!

You OK Blane? Hehe!

Nick Lindauer on 9/29/2006 at 9:31 pm said:

I think the popcorn went to his head

Haha! He must have taken his helmet off again!!

Nick Lindauer on 9/29/2006 at 9:31 pm said:

I think the popcorn went to his head

Hey guys…. Yea that popcorn sneaks up on you… At first I said hot sauce popcorn come on now… But I’ll tell you WHAT!!!thats some good stuff Dave put out…

I understand a blog is supose to be an open forum of opinions. Well, I stand by my opinion. Reviews are nice and the ones on my product were good, but that is not the issue. It is the surrounding chatter and promotion where I see the same favorites receiving on-going exposure.
This isn’t about my product line. It is doing fine with my professional marketing approach, which is way beyond simple blog-promotion. This is about HSB remaining true to what it claims to be. Sorry if that ruffles feathers, but I would like to see this site be truely on open forum without any hint of bias or prejudice.

There is no point in continuing to beat a dead horse, so this is where I plan to leave it. Bye.

“If your problem is with the variety of manufacturers or the frequency, all I can tell you is that if more manufacturers sent in press releases and/or information, there would certainly be a larger spectrum of information. And trust me, I work very hard on promoting and bringing a variety of content to the HSB. “

That is so true! If there is a certain manufacturer that tends to “show-up” more then another, maybe they are because they provide more information to be posted. Sure, it means they know how to “use” the system and target their main audience. Is that wrong? Maybe more will send info to Nick so that he and HSB will be swamped with information. Its also a good thing to hear what they have to say. Who wants to spend time learning all this from the endless individual manufacturers sites when its all right here? I am NOT commenting on the never-ending special bottles out there from all the manufacturers that tend to show up now. Thats a different subject.

Personally, I think Nick does an excellent job of providing information when most of it is not for his own benefit. Its for the benefit of the chilehead community! This site could be alot more strict and much of it could be censored if thats what he wanted. Remember, this is Nick’s site that he opened up and allows alot more than most would. You are pretty much free to post what you want. How many trades, purchases, business contacts, and emails have floated right under everyones nose on here? Speaking out of blogmeister jrs shoes, I think that even if Nick is benefitting from HSB, he is entitled too. Its his hard work and hours spent busting his ass so that you can come here and read, learn, bust on, chat with and play.

E.Z. Earl on 9/29/2006 at 9:54 pm said:

I understand a blog is supose to be an open forum of opinions. Well, I stand by my opinion. Reviews are nice and the ones on my product were good, but that is not the issue. It is the surrounding chatter and promotion where I see the same favorites receiving on-going exposure.
This isn’t about my product line. It is doing fine with my professional marketing approach, which is way beyond simple blog-promotion. This is about HSB remaining true to what it claims to be. Sorry if that ruffles feathers, but I would like to see this site be truely on open forum without any hint of bias or prejudice.

There is no point in continuing to beat a dead horse, so this is where I plan to leave it. Bye.

Love is in the air…….

E.Z. Earl on 9/29/2006 at 11:53 am said:

Nick - This seems more like a paid commercial ad for blair than an informational blog posting. Is this a new direction for HSB? Maybe you should consider adding a commercial section to help us get away from the rambling chat room stuff.

I think the fact that Blair’s sauces/reserves are some the most sought after on the market if not the most sought after, lends to the fact that we talk it up on the blog!

chrisk on 9/29/2006 at 10:01 pm said:

“If your problem is with the variety of manufacturers or the frequency, all I can tell you is that if more manufacturers sent in press releases and/or information, there would certainly be a larger spectrum of information. And trust me, I work very hard on promoting and bringing a variety of content to the HSB. “

That is so true! If there is a certain manufacturer that tends to “show-up” more then another, maybe they are because they provide more information to be posted. Sure, it means they know how to “use” the system and target their main audience. Is that wrong? Maybe more will send info to Nick so that he and HSB will be swamped with information. Its also a good thing to hear what they have to say. Who wants to spend time learning all this from the endless individual manufacturers sites when its all right here? I am NOT commenting on the never-ending special bottles out there from all the manufacturers that tend to show up now. Thats a different subject.

Personally, I think Nick does an excellent job of providing information when most of it is not for his own benefit. Its for the benefit of the chilehead community! This site could be alot more strict and much of it could be censored if thats what he wanted. Remember, this is Nick’s site that he opened up and allows alot more than most would. You are pretty much free to post what you want. How many trades, purchases, business contacts, and emails have floated right under everyones nose on here? Speaking out of blogmeister jrs shoes, I think that even if Nick is benefitting from HSB, he is entitled too. Its his hard work and hours spent busting his ass so that you can come here and read, learn, bust on, chat with and play.

Ditto- How can you compete with that, well said ChrisK from the blog. Maybe I am a little simpler, not as educated as some here. But from my angle- I see some manufacturers showing up more then others because they ship Nick more items. When I receive a box full of _____ items, it’s my commitment to Nick to write about what I get. But like Anthony, I too write about sauces I found and quite like the Hot Shop reviews as well. Listen, let’s call a spade a spade- if you disagree with with how someone does business recently you have every God given right to state your opinion. That is one good thing about this blog, you can say it when you want to and how you want to. Some people will agree with you, some people won’t, and some people get highly pissed and blow their tops- that’s what I like. But when you accuse the whole system of being biased, I think you are generalizing too much and are missing the boat. I am really sorry you feel that way Earl, I am not going to blow sunshine up your a$$, there are good points and bad points to everything in life. Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad, or just not take it at all. I have met some very special people through this, something I would have never imagined I would ever do. Some of the folks could be friends for life- we share so much together. So when someone takes a shot at it- at us, they take a shot at all of us.

Vic on 9/30/2006 at 1:01 am said:

Ditto- How can you compete with that, well said ChrisK from the blog. Maybe I am a little simpler, not as educated as some here. But from my angle- I see some manufacturers showing up more then others because they ship Nick more items. When I receive a box full of _____ items, it’s my commitment to Nick to write about what I get. But like Anthony, I too write about sauces I found and quite like the Hot Shop reviews as well. Listen, let’s call a spade a spade- if you disagree with with how someone does business recently you have every God given right to state your opinion. That is one good thing about this blog, you can say it when you want to and how you want to. Some people will agree with you, some people won’t, and some people get highly pissed and blow their tops- that’s what I like. But when you accuse the whole system of being biased, I think you are generalizing too much and are missing the boat. I am really sorry you feel that way Earl, I am not going to blow sunshine up your a$$, there are good points and bad points to everything in life. Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad, or just not take it at all. I have met some very special people through this, something I would have never imagined I would ever do. Some of the folks could be friends for life- we share so much together. So when someone takes a shot at it- at us, they take a shot at all of us.

Well said Brother…..

E.Z. Earl on 9/29/2006 at 8:26 pm said:

Blane - I have no problem with Blair or any other brand, so you’re off base on your assumption. Is HSB a level playing field for all makers? No, I don’t think so. I see a definite bias toward the brands Nick sells in his store, which makes this less a forum and more an S&S promotional site. Sorry, that’s the way it comes across.

Wha? Duh? Hogwash at best. I speak from experience here, Nick is not biased to his SNS brands, if you read more often, you would see that.
I have been given great exposure and quite honestly, overwhelmedby the welcome this site has given us. Thanks to all who read regularly and know ” TheTruth” pun intended.
Aj

Anthony on 9/29/2006 at 9:15 pm said:

Ummmm Earl……You couldn’t be more wrong. If you take a look at half of the reviews I have done over the last year they are not available on Sweat N Spice. In fact Nick has done quite a bit to promote other web-sites as well. Do some research and learn the facts before you make an assumption.

You have been here for awhile and reaping the rewards of information posted here. To call out something like this is pretty petty.

Well said

Well…I have certainly missed a lot today. Sadly, the internet was down at my place for some time, so I was unable to join in the fun. Nick, don’t take my questions offensively, please. They are simply questions, to satisfy my own curiosity, and that of any other person that might wonder the same thing. Enquiring minds want to know.

Sadly, there is bias here on the blog. Whether we want to admit it or not, every last one of us is biased in one way or another. Take some of the reviewers for instance. One of them doesn’t like fruity sauces…so why have those people review fruity sauces? There’s sauces that are reviewed on here all the time that are private label. Yet, I know of one private label that will not be reviewed unless the words “Manufactured by CaJohn” are included. Though the other reviews of private labels may be out of pure ignorance, but ignorance in my opinion is not a valid excuse, especially when the manufacturer states, and I quote, “it’s his sauce”. Nobody whined and complained when the review of the HSU sauce was done regarding this subject.

********NEWS FLASH********
The sauce contained in the HSU bottle is the same sauce it is in Cape Fear Pepper Company’s Red Savina sauce…which is manufactured by CaJon for Cape Fear Pepper Company, and CaJohn will stand by that as he has on severel other occasions. So what has happened here is that a CFPC sauce was reviewed without stating who manufactures it, and still, the credit won’t be given to CFPC for the two sauces they currently offer under their name and logo. Sounds a little biased to me, but that’s my opinion and as someone already stated on here, if you don’t like what people have to say, don’t read it. Granted this isn’t necessarily a business, but in the biz world, this would be considered anti-trust. To be unbiased, you’d have to treat all things of a same class…the same. Once you cross the line for one, you have to do it for all, knowingly or not. There’s some serious double standards, but this isn’t my blog, I just ask questions and point things out. Nick, I know you’re free to do as you please with this site, and please continue to do so. I enjoy the site, but the question is…how can you say that this site is truly unbiased when there are double standards left and right. How can you say that this site portrays the truth about things when I have the e-mail from you stating that I won the first caption this contest, offered me a choice in prizes, then post that it was a tie between DK and I? That’s a little far from the truth here (and I don’t mean Jersey Boyz Jerky Truth). Sorry man, I like you, but I have to admit that you definately lost some credibility with me when you posted an outright lie. I’ll be back sometime tomorrow to follow up on this. Post away boys.

I decided not to read your comment, it would make my head hurt, it’s painful to watch you ramble on with all your hate… Arrghhhh someone put me out of my misery…….. I’ve fallen and I can’t get up…

Here’s a thought to improve the site a MUTE button,,, I like it..

Okay , okay I read your comment, it was painful like I thought it would be… Man where do you get all that pent up angry from? WOW

BLANE on 9/30/2006 at 2:47 am said:

I decided not to read your comment, it would make my head hurt, it’s painful to watch you ramble on with all your hate… Arrghhhh someone put me out of my misery…….. I’ve fallen and I can’t get up…

Here’s a thought to improve the site a MUTE button,,, I like it..

Okay , okay I read your comment, it was painful like I thought it would be… Man where do you get all that pent up angry from? WOW

I’m going to the Arcade to kill some rabbits… TTYL

I’m back from killing lots of rabbit’s… I feel better…. Ryan don’t hate me because I’m beautiful just love me for who I am…. Back to the Arcade…

******* News Flash*******

I fell on my keys… Just thought you would like to know..

I’ll be back in 2 minutes to follow up so post away boys..

Nothing to say huh, okay I lied I was back in one minute,…

Whats up Blane?

ROFL Blane, the one thing you need to know about Ryan is he states things the way he sees them, and none of it done out of anger. I am sorry your are not able to open your eyes wide enough to see that….maybe if you actually spent some time talking to him and knew him better instead of spending all your time on here trying to renew used up ideas it would help you see that he isn’t angry at all but stating things that most people on here just won’t say but are thinking, and sending him emails to back up all his thoughts, so if everyone would stand up and have cojones like Ryan, and stop kissing ass just to try and look good, you’d see it all very clear with your eyes closed.

Blane, if you thought this was painful, ZF would have killed you. It was freak’n high school with more beer. The smack that was spoken behind peoples’ back was phenominal. Peace love and chiles my ass. What’s even more surprising is the mouths the words came from. As my wife stated, I call it as I see it and am not “angry” about it, its not my blog its no personal trespass against me. The only things that do piss me off are when people attempt to harm, or harm, my friends and family. You and I speak with some of the same people outside the blog, do your homework buddy.

Ryan@angrypepper on 9/30/2006 at 4:00 am said:

Blane, if you thought this was painful, ZF would have killed you. It was freak’n high school with more beer. The smack that was spoken behind peoples’ back was phenominal. Peace love and chiles my ass. What’s even more surprising is the mouths the words came from. As my wife stated, I call it as I see it and am not “angry” about it, its not my blog its no personal trespass against me. The only things that do piss me off are when people attempt to harm, or harm, my friends and family. You and I speak with some of the same people outside the blog, do your homework buddy.

I thought I heard you taking smack about me! Oh well I probably deserved it I thought everyone was my friend?! One thing I like about you is that you speak your mind and move on with it. You don’t leave crying that something has rubbed you the wrong way. You continue to contribute no matter what goes on. That is the way it should be! Peace, love and hot stuff folks

Good day all. You were all up late last night. Blane Don’t miss the Bus you And E.Z. Earl have Saturday school.

Nick Lindauer on 9/30/2006 at 7:16 am said:

Ryan - As usual, your honesty is refreshing, but as you said “ignorance in my opinion is not a valid excuse” and yet again, as with many things you don’t know the whole story before firing off your mouth (well, keyboard).

First, not that you would know, but there is a review for a CPFC sauce in the queue. How is it bias to want to readers to know everything about a sauce? Just because the review said “Manufactured by CaJohn” is not a bias, that’s just letting the reader know who makes it - in case they eat it. You and I both know that 9 out of 10 readers on the HSB will still buy the bottle just to put it into their collection. The only other CPFC review ever submitted was lost when the DB went down and I requested the reviewer re-send it. Once again, it’s not bias not to post about something if it’s not sent in.

Second, the caption this prize? What? Did you read the post? “Because of the close race the winners are going to get prizes of equal value.” I was being nice, man, I gave you the choice between prizes as I knew you were having Defcon issues and might appreciate another prize (of equal value) more. So I gave you the choice (as the winner with 23 votes) and DK got the remaining prize (with 22 votes). How can you hold something like that against me or say I “posted an outright lie”?

Posting questions for enquiring minds is your right (as it is everyones). As the saying goes, when you assume it makes an a$$ out of you & me.

So I didn’t win?

Well kitty, I guess Ryan found something else in there! Ewwww! Just bustin chops man!!! I’m kool widit! That was one freaking hilarious Caption This, and after that barrage of comments, I was tickled to even be in the running!

Fight the Power!

BLANE on 9/30/2006 at 3:02 am said:

******* News Flash*******

I fell on my keys… Just thought you would like to know..

Blane, you kill me!

SORRY GUY THAT I ALITTLE LATE BUT MUCH WORK TO BE DONE ON THE JERKY FRONT…
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK AZ(GREAT GUY) FOR THE ORDER OF MY JERKY ..
DK…YOUR JERKY SHOULD BE THERE SOON..

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR NICK…
I HAVE BEEN ON HERE FOR AWHILE AND I HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE ARE ALOT OF THE SAME COMPANIES BEING FEATURED(OH AND BY THE WAY THATS OK)BUT…….. DO THESE SAME COMPANIES ADVERTISE ON THIS BLOG? AND IF SO IS THAT WHY THEY ARE GETTING MORE OF THE ATTENTION THAN OTHERS(CAUSE IF SO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT JERSEY BOYZ ADVERTISING ON HERE AS WELL.LIKE CHRIS K FROM THE BLOG SAID AND I AGREE ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY PERSENT THAT YOU DO A GREAT JOB AND ARE EXPECTED TO MAKE MONEY..BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DO SEE WHEREMY FELLOW BLOGERS ARE COMING FROM
OH AND ONE FINAL WORD CHRIS K I HAVE READ THE POEM– CHILDRENS BOOK–CRY FOR HELP.. YOU TRUELY SCARE ME

Ok everybody be nice. Today we are demo 15 manf of hot sauce all of there items F\kids 4 kind, Cape\f 2kinds, Lava , THT, so on so on. Today is HSB Blogger Manf Demo day. CaJohn might not be any room on the tables for your stuff today. LOL Sorry and yes the queen of the blog Mrs Ryan Tropical Mischief sauce will be out also. So stop in if your in the Neighborhood. Peace Bret

Morning Bret! When are you guys going to have the first show in the new event center?

nick im just trying to understand why ryan and others are alittle upset..

im going to send in my products and hopefully i will get up there too

Bret your order is being sent out..sorry about the invoice you know how women like money..lol

Wow Great thread here! I guess the sum of my lengthy post here will be “it’s a free country” for those that want the ‘Readers Digest’ version.

I can personally attest to the fact that there is no ‘quid pro-quo’ on advertising and reviews. I’ve advertised for awhile now and will continue to do so for as far into the future as I can see because I like and support what is going on here. At any point I *don’t* like it, I’m free to leave and take my ad dollars with me. Pretty simple

There are about a zillion hotsauce makers out there (meaning manufacturers and private labelers). Considering all of them, I think that Nick is doing a pretty good job of giving all equal treatment. It’s a simple matter of fact that some producers do more note worthy stuff and hence get ‘more press’. Bill Gates gets more notice than I do in the media and, while jealous, I don’t begrudge him that. He just simply does more stuff that gets attention I’m certainly free to try and match him or do better.

Having met Ryan (and the lovely Mrs) I can vouch that there isn’t any ‘hate’ or ‘pent up anger’- just a somewhat refreshing saying it like he sees it. Again, we’re all free to do the same.

The HSB is what the HSB is- as with the making of Blairs, CaJohns or EZ’s sauces, folks that feel like they can do a better (or less biased) job are free to do so I sincerely wish them the best of luck and will happily support them in their efforts also.

-Jim who’s still waiting for that increase in sales for having been reviewed

FOR RIGHT NOW ITS GOING TO BE SPECIAL ORDER WILL BE ON THE WEB SITE SOON IF ANYBODY INTERESTED JUST SHOY ME AN EMAIL WOULD BE GLADE TO SEND IT OUT..

Nick Lindauer on 9/30/2006 at 9:25 am said:

“Jim who’s still waiting for that increase in sales for having been reviewed”

Har har har - what 8k+ for charity not enough for you?

Never enough for charity

I’m waiting for that increase for *ME*

MSK on 9/30/2006 at 9:11 am said:

Morning Bret! When are you guys going to have the first show in the new event center?

In the works.

Hot sauce Demo update Knock outs so far 1st went to Fat kids sauce Ext heat Then THT Tox. Laughts keep rolling…….. Oh good news at 10:45am 1st puker good news not sure what sauce they ate. Back to work.

Ryan@angrypepper on 9/30/2006 at 4:00 am said:

Blane, if you thought this was painful, ZF would have killed you. It was freak’n high school with more beer. The smack that was spoken behind peoples’ back was phenominal. Peace love and chiles my ass. What’s even more surprising is the mouths the words came from. As my wife stated, I call it as I see it and am not “angry” about it, its not my blog its no personal trespass against me. The only things that do piss me off are when people attempt to harm, or harm, my friends and family. You and I speak with some of the same people outside the blog, do your homework buddy.

The great thing, is I have and will continue to speak with those outside this blog, the great thing is they have there opions and I respect that, I don’t expect people to understand me, but what I do understand is you attack peoples values, sites and ethics. It dosn’t take cojones to put someone down for what they believe, maybe I wouldn’t give you sh’t so much if I thought you where doing it in a tactful way or if you did not have a ajenda…. The things I like I’ll tell people the things I don’t I let people know off line… Maybe thats good maybe thats not, but when comments could hurt someones income or family thats not right… Maybe I enjoy talking smack to you because I know you’ll respond and Know that I’m trying to get your goat…. I love this site, I enjoy all the people I’ve meant and like Vic said have some great friends from it… I’ve been able to talk with CaJohn, Jim and AJ by phone something I would have never been able to do if it wasn’t for this site… Like you I say what I feel, like it or leave it…. I want people to enjoy my comments not get angry about them… Well at least 90% won’t get angry or is that 50% oh well I know at least you and the Mrs love me…

I got a great day planned with my Wife and son.. So throw some smack back at me because I love it.

Peace and love Brother..

THE TRUTH on 9/30/2006 at 9:14 am said:

nick im just trying to understand why ryan and others are alittle upset..

im going to send in my products and hopefully i will get up there too

Bret your order is being sent out..sorry about the invoice you know how women like money..lol

Ryan and others? what does he have a turd in his pocket and it counts as two?

Bret on 9/30/2006 at 11:35 am said:

Hot sauce Demo update Knock outs so far 1st went to Fat kids sauce Ext heat Then THT Tox. Laughts keep rolling…….. Oh good news at 10:45am 1st puker good news not sure what sauce they ate. Back to work.

Great news! Thanx bret. Call me later for a defcon update

Btw it was the THT that made the guy throw up (just kidding girls)

Inm the city now

huvason on 9/30/2006 at 12:27 pm said:

Great news! Thanx bret. Call me later for a defcon update

Btw it was the THT that made the guy throw up (just kidding girls)

Inm the city now

You better keep us updated Huv……….

MrFreeze on 9/30/2006 at 12:32 pm said:

You better keep us updated Huv……….

Will do. Can’t wait to get you salsa to try!

BLANE.. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY OPEN YOUR MOUTH IM WAITING

huvason on 9/30/2006 at 12:36 pm said:

Will do. Can’t wait to get you salsa to try!

I made 5 diiferent batch’s this year, will send you a jar of each. you will have to let me know what you think(honestly) as i wrote done everything this year so I will know what batch is the best and I can re-make it.

Nick Lindauer on 9/30/2006 at 11:38 am said:

Bret - send me your addy and I’ll send some HSB cards your way for the taste testers

It’s on the way

Update—- Fat kids=5——THT=3——–Lava=1 New on the Block F\C500=1 Later Bret

THE TRUTH on 9/30/2006 at 12:47 pm said:

BLANE.. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY OPEN YOUR MOUTH IM WAITING

I think I did…. Did you read it…. Should I Slllllooooooooowww
down for you… Did I stuuuuder… I can only spell it you need to read it… lol

Give me the Truth Brother let me here it, don’t hold back… Tell me how you dislike my helmet and my comments, tell me something I don’t know…. Careful limited knowledge in the hot sauce world. Thats a given, but one thing that I could chat with you about….. The meat industry…. Let it flow, One thing though I’m out the door for a little I’ll be back, whoa that souneded cool.

By the way where did you get the T-Shirt that says TRUTH, I’m looking for one that says HELMET.

Later Buddy

The meat industry….

YEA BLANE THATS SOMETHING YOU WOULD KNOW ABOUT ..LOL

LIMITED..YEA THAT FITS..

ARE YOU REALLY BLANE OR HOGAN ON CRACK?..LOL

WELL ANYWAY WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THEM MEAT INDUSTRY LOVE TO HEAR THIS

THE TRUTH on 9/30/2006 at 1:28 pm said:

The meat industry….

YEA BLANE THATS SOMETHING YOU WOULD KNOW ABOUT ..LOL

LIMITED..YEA THAT FITS..

ARE YOU REALLY BLANE OR HOGAN ON CRACK?..LOL

WELL ANYWAY WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THEM MEAT INDUSTRY LOVE TO HEAR THIS

Then you guys can take your conversation to the Off Topic section.

YEA I KNOW ANT CAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH HAPPENING IN HERE THAT IT WOULD MATTER WHERE WE TALK.. ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS? NO WAIT YOUR JOKING AROUND..WHY ARE YOU SO ANGRY I SAID I LIKE MOST OF YOUR REVIEWS.. DAM DUDE RELAX

GOOD MORNING TRUTH, SORRY FOR STEALING YOUR “GIMMICK”(the caps) I just wanted to get your attention

LOL GOOD MORNING I KNOW YOUR NOT GETTING UP THIS LATE..GOT THAT WHOLE CAP GIMMICK FROM YOU AFTER YOU ASKED IF THAT WAS MY GIMM …SOOO IT STUCK

Well, had my breakfast (cigs and coffee ) and have to say this has been a delightful read.

Nick, I got my info from one of the people that wrote up a review on the CFPC sauce over the phone. I can’t resist a mystery and when there’s something fishy going on that is brought to my attention, I do what I can to figure it out. Its just my nature. I find that most often that when I let out what I know, more information usually comes out. There’s 3 sides to every story - your side, my side, and the truth (so to speak, don’t necessarily mean YOUR side). In order to find the real truth, some times you have to push a few buttons. Anyway, if I was misinformed, it was because the my sources have been misguided in some way. And I preger the term assumption makes an ass out of you, and umption (I find it to be unfair that assume makes an ass out of both parties).

I realize that what you did regarding the caption this contest was a nice thing to do, and don’t get me wrong, I am appreciative of what you’ve done. I’m just one of those people that sees honesty as being black and white with no gray area. If its not the absolute truth, well, its gotta be the other. As I said before, I like you, but we all do things that somebody (whether its only me or not) is going to disagree with.

So yeah, Blane… I know you love this stuff and I’m happy to oblige. But who’s income and family am I hurting? The one thing you need to realize is that everyone (and this has been beaten to death here) has there own opinion/point of view. What you consider to be tasteful may or may not be the same as others. So this holier than thou approach you seem to take only drops you down to my level (yes, DOWN to my level in aspect of public opinion, but that is role I have chosen). Kepp it up man, its great. It does get a little lonely down here at times (on the blog that is, outside the blog its a frick’n party). There are many on here that put on a show to save face, then off the blog its a free-for-all. I respect those that take the time to write or call me, so I don’t give out all info about my sources (no good reporter does) so that they’ll keep telling me things. I investigate, or use what info is volunteered. So if anyone’s income or family is being hurt, it is only being hurt by themselves. I’m just the messenger

DK, I voted for your caption man, I thout it was by far better than mine.

Aaron, I don’t recall talking smack about you, but if you heard that I did then I must have. I hope that whatever it is that I must have said wasn’t too harsh. All I have to say is that its pretty amazing what people will say while under the influence of alcohol, and then say the opposite when they sober up.

I went to ZF with the intention of having a good time, and despite all that went on behind the scenese (and everything still going on as a result) I did exactly that. Looking forward to doing it again.

Have a great day everyone, I’m off to the office

Aaron, I don’t recall talking smack about you, but if you heard that I did then I must have. I hope that whatever it is that I must have said wasn’t too harsh. All I have to say is that its pretty amazing what people will say while under the influence of alcohol, and then say the opposite when they sober up.

ha I was just messing around. I wasn’t really being serious. I emjoyed hanging out with you and everyone else at ZF. Good times! My apologies man

Ryan@angrypepper on 9/30/2006 at 2:20 pm said:

Well, had my breakfast (cigs and coffee ) and have to say this has been a delightful read.

Nick, I got my info from one of the people that wrote up a review on the CFPC sauce over the phone. I can’t resist a mystery and when there’s something fishy going on that is brought to my attention, I do what I can to figure it out. Its just my nature. I find that most often that when I let out what I know, more information usually comes out. There’s 3 sides to every story - your side, my side, and the truth (so to speak, don’t necessarily mean YOUR side). In order to find the real truth, some times you have to push a few buttons. Anyway, if I was misinformed, it was because the my sources have been misguided in some way. And I preger the term assumption makes an ass out of you, and umption (I find it to be unfair that assume makes an ass out of both parties).

I realize that what you did regarding the caption this contest was a nice thing to do, and don’t get me wrong, I am appreciative of what you’ve done. I’m just one of those people that sees honesty as being black and white with no gray area. If its not the absolute truth, well, its gotta be the other. As I said before, I like you, but we all do things that somebody (whether its only me or not) is going to disagree with.

So yeah, Blane… I know you love this stuff and I’m happy to oblige. But who’s income and family am I hurting? The one thing you need to realize is that everyone (and this has been beaten to death here) has there own opinion/point of view. What you consider to be tasteful may or may not be the same as others. So this holier than thou approach you seem to take only drops you down to my level (yes, DOWN to my level in aspect of public opinion, but that is role I have chosen). Kepp it up man, its great. It does get a little lonely down here at times (on the blog that is, outside the blog its a frick’n party). There are many on here that put on a show to save face, then off the blog its a free-for-all. I respect those that take the time to write or call me, so I don’t give out all info about my sources (no good reporter does) so that they’ll keep telling me things. I investigate, or use what info is volunteered. So if anyone’s income or family is being hurt, it is only being hurt by themselves. I’m just the messenger

DK, I voted for your caption man, I thout it was by far better than mine.

Aaron, I don’t recall talking smack about you, but if you heard that I did then I must have. I hope that whatever it is that I must have said wasn’t too harsh. All I have to say is that its pretty amazing what people will say while under the influence of alcohol, and then say the opposite when they sober up.

I went to ZF with the intention of having a good time, and despite all that went on behind the scenese (and everything still going on as a result) I did exactly that. Looking forward to doing it again.

Have a great day everyone, I’m off to the office

I love when ryan gets on a roll. Thanks buddy

News Flash sold rights to P&G Co for soap opera. Call Days Of are Sauce.

chrisk on 9/29/2006 at 10:01 pm said:

“If your problem is with the variety of manufacturers or the frequency, all I can tell you is that if more manufacturers sent in press releases and/or information, there would certainly be a larger spectrum of information. And trust me, I work very hard on promoting and bringing a variety of content to the HSB. “

That is so true! If there is a certain manufacturer that tends to “show-up” more then another, maybe they are because they provide more information to be posted. Sure, it means they know how to “use” the system and target their main audience. Is that wrong? Maybe more will send info to Nick so that he and HSB will be swamped with information. Its also a good thing to hear what they have to say. Who wants to spend time learning all this from the endless individual manufacturers sites when its all right here? I am NOT commenting on the never-ending special bottles out there from all the manufacturers that tend to show up now. Thats a different subject.

Personally, I think Nick does an excellent job of providing information when most of it is not for his own benefit. Its for the benefit of the chilehead community! This site could be alot more strict and much of it could be censored if thats what he wanted. Remember, this is Nick’s site that he opened up and allows alot more than most would. You are pretty much free to post what you want. How many trades, purchases, business contacts, and emails have floated right under everyones nose on here? Speaking out of blogmeister jrs shoes, I think that even if Nick is benefitting from HSB, he is entitled too. Its his hard work and hours spent busting his ass so that you can come here and read, learn, bust on, chat with and play.

Go Chris K from the blog!

Blair update… Lots of comments… duck and cover

Speaking for myself, HSB helped bring alot of great sauces and people to my attention. I’m very new to this and this site really helped with my education.

ZF introduced me to some awesome people and I know the reviews have definately helped spread the word on us. So I love it here and can’t say anything wrong.

It’s free after all and I feel We (P.P.P.) truly reaped rewards from our association with HSB. Thanks Nick.

the edge on 10/1/2006 at 10:19 pm said:

Go Chris K from the blog!

NEVER ENDING SPEACIAL BOTTLES..(THATS MY BUDDY) LOVE TO HEAR MORE OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT…

I have been reading through all this and you guys kill me. Never a dull minute around here.

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 9/30/2006 at 9:42 am said:

Never enough for charity

I’m waiting for that increase for *ME*

Jim, didn’t I do good enough at ZF?

LOL… how’s it going man? Hope all is good. Need to shoot you an e-mail for my bears. Did CJ do them for you yet?

thebigshow on 10/2/2006 at 9:29 pm said:

Jim, didn’t I do good enough at ZF?

LOL… how’s it going man? Hope all is good. Need to shoot you an e-mail for my bears. Did CJ do them for you yet?

No Not Yet…
Soon Though…

CaJohn on 10/2/2006 at 9:54 pm said:

No Not Yet…
Soon Though…

No problem, Big Daddy. How goes it? How’s the new store? Need to mail you a couple of CE’s that leaked. Not sure if you can seal them a little better, but they definately need new signatures. But they still look awesome in the display. Will send you a pic soon.

Hey CJ! Read about your grand opening on the Hot Zone. Congrats man, how did it go?

Ryan@angrypepper on 10/2/2006 at 10:05 pm said:

Hey CJ! Read about your grand opening on the Hot Zone. Congrats man, how did it go?

Hey Ryan, how goes it?

thebigshow on 10/2/2006 at 10:28 pm said:

Hey Ryan, how goes it?

Goes good. Sorry for the very much delayed response. Mrs. R is not feeling so hot tonight and I had to run to the store to get stuff. Gonna go crash myself now. When you get a chance, shoot me an e-mail about the logo. Catch ya later bud.

I just read this whole thread.
The only comment that wont stop repeating in my head out of all the stuff said here, was one by Angry Ryan…Surprise surprise haha.

What zest fest were you at, I didn’t hear any smack about anyone at all, all i saw and heard was a bunch of people having a great time with a great bunch of people.
Unfortunately, pointing out that you were there when it was being done means (I think) that you were a part of it, and this, to me, is disappointing. There is no need to trash others. It doesn’t get anyone anywhere, it only causes animosity, were you trashing me (i wouldn’t care), was someone trashing Heather? I would care greatly, were you making fun of the fat people? If so then it was me Ah-ha!! however, the people i met were really good warm people, of which Arizona Jack, Loco Luna Brian, eman, cheffy, the d00d from peri peri the two guys from blairs all really stand out. There were others, but these were some of the people that didn’t seem to have an agenda (i know a couple were working, but they didnt feel like they were working)
Anyways, reading this thread is probably why I have slowed to a crawl posting, it seems every post is filled with hatered, bashing or one upman ship in one form of another. If you want to get noticed, advertise, and don’t stop. People will be talking about all you smaller guys like they do Blair’s and Cajohns soon, trust me on this. If you can’t afford it, quit smoking, stop drinking, put your monies where your mouths are and step up to forge your own destiny, and never stop believing in yourselves.
Life is too short. Have a good night everyone. Sorry we can’t all get along even behid each others backs, because in front of each other we seemed to have a pretty good time.

Peace
Paul

Ryan@angrypepper on 10/2/2006 at 11:28 pm said:

Goes good. Sorry for the very much delayed response. Mrs. R is not feeling so hot tonight and I had to run to the store to get stuff. Gonna go crash myself now. When you get a chance, shoot me an e-mail about the logo. Catch ya later bud.

Will do man, hope Sonia feels better.

yeah actually ditto on that Ryan.
Just fyi my comments were not an attack on you, but your comment just stuck there so i ran with it.
Good night.

Ryan@angrypepper on 10/2/2006 at 11:28 pm said:

Goes good. Sorry for the very much delayed response. Mrs. R is not feeling so hot tonight and I had to run to the store to get stuff. Gonna go crash myself now. When you get a chance, shoot me an e-mail about the logo. Catch ya later bud.

Sorry to hear your better half isn’t feeling well, hopefully you are doing everything you can to help her out. Please pass the word that Wendy and I hope she feels better soon. Tell her to wear the Pink Helmet for a little while, it may help.

pmac on 10/2/2006 at 11:51 pm said:

I just read this whole thread.
The only comment that wont stop repeating in my head out of all the stuff said here, was one by Angry Ryan…Surprise surprise haha.

What zest fest were you at, I didn’t hear any smack about anyone at all, all i saw and heard was a bunch of people having a great time with a great bunch of people.
Unfortunately, pointing out that you were there when it was being done means (I think) that you were a part of it, and this, to me, is disappointing. There is no need to trash others. It doesn’t get anyone anywhere, it only causes animosity, were you trashing me (i wouldn’t care), was someone trashing Heather? I would care greatly, were you making fun of the fat people? If so then it was me Ah-ha!! however, the people i met were really good warm people, of which Arizona Jack, Loco Luna Brian, eman, cheffy, the d00d from peri peri the two guys from blairs all really stand out. There were others, but these were some of the people that didn’t seem to have an agenda (i know a couple were working, but they didnt feel like they were working)
Anyways, reading this thread is probably why I have slowed to a crawl posting, it seems every post is filled with hatered, bashing or one upman ship in one form of another. If you want to get noticed, advertise, and don’t stop. People will be talking about all you smaller guys like they do Blair’s and Cajohns soon, trust me on this. If you can’t afford it, quit smoking, stop drinking, put your monies where your mouths are and step up to forge your own destiny, and never stop believing in yourselves.
Life is too short. Have a good night everyone. Sorry we can’t all get along even behid each others backs, because in front of each other we seemed to have a pretty good time.

Peace
Paul

Pmac,
No probs dood.
I have been a blogger on guitar sites and poker sites for a lot longer than I have been here. I cant spell so I’ll just say ” klicks” are the norm. The new guy always gets trashed, it’s sort of a “rites” thing, a hazing, no problem here on my end. It’s part of the process.
BUT, I must add, everybody has been friendly, my differances have been face to face and discussed like intelligent adults, but I know the s$#it floats to the top.
I will be the first to admit that I am suffering from growing pains. Big growing pains. Ebay is one thing, but trying to make a move national is like taking the training wheels off. You are going to hurt yourself a few time till you get it right. Ever had that recipe perfect for a 3 gallon batch for friends and then get a 20 case combined order? It sucks, especially when the front page on HSB is you !!!!!
I have made every attempt to play nice, thats my style, and will always be. I ( we at PPP) have been very fortunate to have some of the big doods in this industry take us under wing and help, for that we will be forever grateful, no names, you know who you are.
The freakin butt stoopid comment this is only for SNS inventory sellers is outrageous. Nick has bought from me more than any blogger ( off ebay). Nick has taken alot of crap that I feel is undeserved and out of line. I am not kissing a$$, I dont do that, but facts are facts. I got my 1st CFPC, Mild to Wild ( Jim), Defcon, etc off this blog. it works both ways. One day soon, when I am up to caliber,I hope to be part of Nicks store, but untill then, I’ll keep trying.
There are so many great people here, when I see all of you at FF, I want to party and have a great time, not gossip and play who can trash talk or be the biggest ass kisser.
Just me rambling tonight, the trash talk comment got me going because I have had enough of second hand gossip. I play heads up poker, and I want heads up talk. Too much to ask?
Later gang
Aj

Good All keep it real.

Bret on 10/3/2006 at 5:43 am said:

Good All keep it real.

Bret, yer up already? I am just getting to bed. 3:00 am here, somebody call me at noon AZ time. Go figure, sort of riled up tonight, could not sleep. Grrrrrrr

thebigshow on 10/2/2006 at 9:29 pm said:

Jim, didn’t I do good enough at ZF?

LOL… how’s it going man? Hope all is good. Need to shoot you an e-mail for my bears. Did CJ do them for you yet?

As stated then- YOU did more than your share Waiting on John for the new batch bears. I’m off to California from the 7th to the 17th (family stuff) so I should be able to ship them as soon as I return.

Bret on 10/3/2006 at 5:43 am said:

Good All keep it real.

Should have said Good day all

Arizona Jack on 10/3/2006 at 5:59 am said:

Bret, yer up already? I am just getting to bed. 3:00 am here, somebody call me at noon AZ time. Go figure, sort of riled up tonight, could not sleep. Grrrrrrr

Everyday Brother. But I think Jim C gets up before me. Most of the time . Good Day Mr Jim.

Bret on 10/3/2006 at 7:12 am said:

Should have said Good day all

I SAID GOOD DAY!

pmac on 10/3/2006 at 7:51 am said:

I SAID GOOD DAY!

Good day to you my up NORTH friend.

Good morning…er mid morning “Normal” wake up time for me is 4 AM. That’s mostly the reason behind my 8:30 pm bedtime. I’m thinkin’ so far that Ben Franklin was a liar

Jim- StepUpForCharity.org on 10/3/2006 at 6:36 am said:

As stated then- YOU did more than your share Waiting on John for the new batch bears. I’m off to California from the 7th to the 17th (family stuff) so I should be able to ship them as soon as I return.

Good morning all….

Have a safe trip Jim…

Jim- StepUpForCharity.org on 10/3/2006 at 9:07 am said:

Good morning…er mid morning “Normal” wake up time for me is 4 AM. That’s mostly the reason behind my 8:30 pm bedtime. I’m thinkin’ so far that Ben Franklin was a liar

Nope, any Founding Father who stated, “Beer is proof God loves, and wants us happy”, can’t be all bad

Good Morning all Next show, walk around by yourself without an HSB shirt and do a little digging. Then you might know what I’m talking about. Have a good day.

Ryan@angrypepper on 10/3/2006 at 10:36 am said:

Good Morning all Next show, walk around by yourself without an HSB shirt and do a little digging. Then you might know what I’m talking about. Have a good day.

Is this directed at me?

DEFCON Creator on 10/3/2006 at 9:45 am said:

Nope, any Founding Father who stated, “Beer is proof God loves, and wants us happy”, can’t be all bad

I was referring more to the ‘healthy, wealthy & wise’ part about sleep patterns

DEFCON Creator on 10/3/2006 at 11:27 am said:

Is this directed at me?

I think he’s talking about what folks will say when they don’t know who they’re saying it too

BLANE on 10/3/2006 at 9:35 am said:

Good morning all….

Have a safe trip Jim…

Thanks Blane, and thanks again- Meatballs & spaghetti for dinner at the firehouse tonight

“I was referring more to the ‘healthy, wealthy & wise’ part about sleep patterns”

Ahhh, healthy, wealthy & wise. Hmmmm, 2 out of 3 for me ain’t bad. LOL!

“I think he’s talking about what folks will say when they don’t know who they’re saying it too”

AKA, talking behind others’ backs. If someone has a problem with me, why not tell me directly? If someone can’t, that either means they must grow a spine, or are just feeding their own malnourished ego…or perhaps both. This whole “did you hear what he said, she said” or starting rumors about someone for your own gain, or perhaps malicious or defamatory intent is nothing more than laughable at best. I fulfilled my mission in Dallas, I had a great time, drank many beers with many good folks, and put a lot of faces to names I have spoken to on-line for some time. If certain people came down with personal agendas, wanting to make their personal little “Peyton Place” a little more meaningful in their pseudo-world, complete with the twisted enjoyment of sinking and twisting shafts into other peoples backs while they’re not around, go right ahead, it must make those that do it proud in their enigmatic successes. Personally, in my postpubescent reality, I don’t have time for that nonsense, it interferes with my beer drinking. Jim, I think you may have noticed that about me in the 6+ hours at Riscky’s. LOL!

DEFCON Creator on 10/3/2006 at 12:12 pm said:

“I was referring more to the ‘healthy, wealthy & wise’ part about sleep patterns”

Ahhh, healthy, wealthy & wise. Hmmmm, 2 out of 3 for me ain’t bad. LOL!

“I think he’s talking about what folks will say when they don’t know who they’re saying it too”

AKA, talking behind others’ backs. If someone has a problem with me, why not tell me directly? If someone can’t, that either means they must grow a spine, or are just feeding their own malnourished ego…or perhaps both. This whole “did you hear what he said, she said” or starting rumors about someone for your own gain, or perhaps malicious or defamatory intent is nothing more than laughable at best. I fulfilled my mission in Dallas, I had a great time, drank many beers with many good folks, and put a lot of faces to names I have spoken to on-line for some time. If certain people came down with personal agendas, wanting to make their personal little “Peyton Place” a little more meaningful in their pseudo-world, complete with the twisted enjoyment of sinking and twisting shafts into other peoples backs while they’re not around, go right ahead, it must make those that do it proud in their enigmatic successes. Personally, in my postpubescent reality, I don’t have time for that nonsense, it interferes with my beer drinking. Jim, I think you may have noticed that about me in the 6+ hours at Riscky’s. LOL!

Not Peyton Place. Soap opera is call ” Days of my Sauce”

Bret on 10/3/2006 at 12:56 pm said:

Not Peyton Place. Soap opera is call ” Days of my Sauce”

LOL! No doubt. I just don’t understand the jollies people get from it. Call me old-fashioned, but if you have something to say, say it to the target person’s face. It was suggested that people take off their HSB shirts and go digging for dirt, for what purpose I don’t know. Perhaps some people get off on this sort of foolishness, to somehow qualify their existence. I for one can’t be bothered. I went down to Dallas for one day just to have fun, and my mission was successful, not to gather in some secret corner to discuss misdirected hostilities of others. If that’s what some came down to do, knock yourselves out, I just think it’s funny as Hell, sad, but funny.

DEFCON Creator on 10/3/2006 at 2:13 pm said:

LOL! No doubt. I just don’t understand the jollies people get from it. Call me old-fashioned, but if you have something to say, say it to the target person’s face. It was suggested that people take off their HSB shirts and go digging for dirt, for what purpose I don’t know. Perhaps some people get off on this sort of foolishness, to somehow qualify their existence. I for one can’t be bothered. I went down to Dallas for one day just to have fun, and my mission was successful, not to gather in some secret corner to discuss misdirected hostilities of others. If that’s what some came down to do, knock yourselves out, I just think it’s funny as Hell, sad, but funny.

It’s very silly. But it makes for good reading.

DEFCON Creator on 10/3/2006 at 2:13 pm said:

LOL! No doubt. I just don’t understand the jollies people get from it. Call me old-fashioned, but if you have something to say, say it to the target person’s face. It was suggested that people take off their HSB shirts and go digging for dirt, for what purpose I don’t know. Perhaps some people get off on this sort of foolishness, to somehow qualify their existence. I for one can’t be bothered. I went down to Dallas for one day just to have fun, and my mission was successful, not to gather in some secret corner to discuss misdirected hostilities of others. If that’s what some came down to do, knock yourselves out, I just think it’s funny as Hell, sad, but funny.

Dang straight. I went to have fun and I had a TON of it. Mission accomplished

Aaron on 10/3/2006 at 3:38 pm said:

Dang straight. I went to have fun and I had a TON of it. Mission accomplished

Yeah, i thought it sucked, i went to have a good time and meet some good people. Instead i just hung out all nite with a bunch of a$$hole bloggers and manufacturers, drinking, playing cards, just having a crappy time! I couldnt believe how bad it was, I even won this damn DC Customs Choppere! I’m never doing anything like that again!!

OK, so, see you all and more in NM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

DEFCON Creator on 10/3/2006 at 2:13 pm said:

LOL! No doubt. I just don’t understand the jollies people get from it. Call me old-fashioned, but if you have something to say, say it to the target person’s face. It was suggested that people take off their HSB shirts and go digging for dirt, for what purpose I don’t know. Perhaps some people get off on this sort of foolishness, to somehow qualify their existence. I for one can’t be bothered. I went down to Dallas for one day just to have fun, and my mission was successful, not to gather in some secret corner to discuss misdirected hostilities of others. If that’s what some came down to do, knock yourselves out, I just think it’s funny as Hell, sad, but funny.

A - friggen’ - men !! Someone stop the insanity !!

thebigshow on 10/3/2006 at 5:11 pm said:

Yeah, i thought it sucked, i went to have a good time and meet some good people. Instead i just hung out all nite with a bunch of a$$hole bloggers and manufacturers, drinking, playing cards, just having a crappy time! I couldnt believe how bad it was, I even won this damn DC Customs Choppere! I’m never doing anything like that again!!

OK, so, see you all and more in NM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

Yeah, what a crappy time. Sounds like you hated every minute of it !!

Vic on 10/3/2006 at 5:17 pm said:

A - friggen’ - men !! Someone stop the insanity !!

Yeah, what a crappy time. Sounds like you hated every minute of it !!

Well actually the hours and hours on the road were alot of fun! LOL

How goes it Vic? How’s Wendy? Tell her I said hi.

Planning that trip to JJ’s yet? Maybe early Nov, you can stip in gatlinburg on your way through and hang out with us at the Pepper Palace.

thebigshow on 10/3/2006 at 5:23 pm said:

Well actually the hours and hours on the road were alot of fun! LOL

How goes it Vic? How’s Wendy? Tell her I said hi.

Planning that trip to JJ’s yet? Maybe early Nov, you can stip in gatlinburg on your way through and hang out with us at the Pepper Palace.

When in Nov. ? We can make a long weekend out of it, shoot me an E-mail, we’d love to!

DEFCON Creator on 10/3/2006 at 11:27 am said:

Is this directed at me?

Not directed at you, not directed at anyone. Not all my info comes from my own experience and digging, but a lot from other sources. You guys need to relax. We’ve all been through high school. Some things change as we get older, others don’t. Anytime you’re a part of a group, clique, band, cult, etc… gossip is a reality we all have to deal with. There are very few people on that I’m aware of that either don’t spread it, or don’t receive it. Now there’s people in a tizzy because people might be talking about them. Well, if you put yourself in the spot light, make yourself stand out from a crowd, do anything different, speak differently, look “strange” or speak your mind that goes against the popular opinion, you’re gonna be talked about. Might be good, might be bad. The question is, does it really matter? Some cases yes, but most of the time, its stupid banter. I can’t believe this is still going on. And I just love how the Johnny come latelys out there have to announce “I just read this whole thread…” and then add their two cents. This thread was dead until that started happening. Aren’t there more important things than this going on right now? Go hug your kids, kiss your wife, go find a man, a woman, somebody to connect with even if its just for a moment, cause really that’s all life is… a series of moments. Don’t miss your moment. Let things die man.

The above comment was a general comment not directed at anyone in particular. This public announcement has been brought to you by Angry Pepper Graphix, the number 3, and viewers like you.

Vic on 10/3/2006 at 5:32 pm said:

When in Nov. ? We can make a long weekend out of it, shoot me an E-mail, we’d love to!

you got mail man.

Ryan@angrypepper on 10/3/2006 at 5:35 pm said:

Not directed at you, not directed at anyone. Not all my info comes from my own experience and digging, but a lot from other sources. You guys need to relax. We’ve all been through high school. Some things change as we get older, others don’t. Anytime you’re a part of a group, clique, band, cult, etc… gossip is a reality we all have to deal with. There are very few people on that I’m aware of that either don’t spread it, or don’t receive it. Now there’s people in a tizzy because people might be talking about them. Well, if you put yourself in the spot light, make yourself stand out from a crowd, do anything different, speak differently, look “strange” or speak your mind that goes against the popular opinion, you’re gonna be talked about. Might be good, might be bad. The question is, does it really matter? Some cases yes, but most of the time, its stupid banter. I can’t believe this is still going on. And I just love how the Johnny come latelys out there have to announce “I just read this whole thread…” and then add their two cents. This thread was dead until that started happening. Aren’t there more important things than this going on right now? Go hug your kids, kiss your wife, go find a man, a woman, somebody to connect with even if its just for a moment, cause really that’s all life is… a series of moments. Don’t miss your moment. Let things die man.

Ryan,

I stand out in a crowd? Look strange! Ride DC Custom Choppers! Don’t talk about me please boo hoo….hehe JK… how goes it tonite?

Oh and this message, brought to you by…ME

thebigshow on 10/3/2006 at 5:51 pm said:

Ryan,

I stand out in a crowd? Look strange! Ride DC Custom Choppers! Don’t talk about me please boo hoo….hehe JK… how goes it tonite?

Oh and this message, brought to you by…ME

Damn, and you were gonna be my next conspiracy theory Things go ok. Still at the office running around with my hair on fire, but the day will be ending soon. Thanks to you, and everyone else for your concern for Sonia. She seemed to be doing better this morning and made it to work. If she’s got what I am just now getting over, its gonna suck, but she’ll live. We all know we’re both too stubborn to just keel over Catch ya later my friend.

thebigshow on 10/3/2006 at 5:51 pm said:

Ryan,

I stand out in a crowd? Look strange! Ride DC Custom Choppers! Don’t talk about me please boo hoo….hehe JK… how goes it tonite?

Oh and this message, brought to you by…ME

Dude I don’t know what your talking about, “Stand out in a crowd” ???

Ryan@angrypepper on 10/3/2006 at 5:57 pm said:

Damn, and you were gonna be my next conspiracy theory Things go ok. Still at the office running around with my hair on fire, but the day will be ending soon. Thanks to you, and everyone else for your concern for Sonia. She seemed to be doing better this morning and made it to work. If she’s got what I am just now getting over, its gonna suck, but she’ll live. We all know we’re both too stubborn to just keel over Catch ya later my friend.

LOL. glad she’s feeling a lil better at least. I;m just one big conspiracy theory all on my own… i cant help it. lol

finish work, ttyl

Vic on 10/3/2006 at 6:01 pm said:

Dude I don’t know what your talking about, “Stand out in a crowd” ???

lol, yeah i get the feeling you do know! could never commit a crime, noone would forget us!! not like we can just blend in. not too many guys out there as great lookin as us!! LOL… ok, everyone stop laughing, it wasnt that funny!!

thebigshow on 10/3/2006 at 6:14 pm said:

lol, yeah i get the feeling you do know! could never commit a crime, noone would forget us!! not like we can just blend in. not too many guys out there as great lookin as us!! LOL… ok, everyone stop laughing, it wasnt that funny!!

Hell Yes, It’s a burdon being such a Sexy Bitch!! Always treated like a piece of meat, a piece of Man Candy!! You know what I’m talking about Brother!!

Ryan@angrypepper on 10/3/2006 at 5:35 pm said:

Not directed at you, not directed at anyone. Not all my info comes from my own experience and digging, but a lot from other sources. You guys need to relax. We’ve all been through high school. Some things change as we get older, others don’t. Anytime you’re a part of a group, clique, band, cult, etc… gossip is a reality we all have to deal with. There are very few people on that I’m aware of that either don’t spread it, or don’t receive it. Now there’s people in a tizzy because people might be talking about them. Well, if you put yourself in the spot light, make yourself stand out from a crowd, do anything different, speak differently, look “strange” or speak your mind that goes against the popular opinion, you’re gonna be talked about. Might be good, might be bad. The question is, does it really matter? Some cases yes, but most of the time, its stupid banter. I can’t believe this is still going on. And I just love how the Johnny come latelys out there have to announce “I just read this whole thread…” and then add their two cents. This thread was dead until that started happening. Aren’t there more important things than this going on right now? Go hug your kids, kiss your wife, go find a man, a woman, somebody to connect with even if its just for a moment, cause really that’s all life is… a series of moments. Don’t miss your moment. Let things die man.

Lets talk about HOT SAUCE

I will not live, I am now in the puking stage of this crap. and to add my 2 cents cus i just read this whole thread, it was not JUST bloggers talking smack, it was other people that had booths there. most of what I heard was just plain frustration at how the show was on trade day or how tired and hung over people were or just making fun of others, i for one will stand up and say I to this day can not stand a particular blogger and yes I talked a whole hell of a lot smack and it made me feel better I also gave craedit where credit was due to this blogger. Ryan isn’t talking about all bad smack talking it was smack talking in general and we all did it, and if you say no i did not, your lying to yourself. to each his own, I am going to bed now.

Thanks to you guys that passed on get well wishes, I luv ya!!

Ryan@angrypepper on 10/3/2006 at 5:57 pm said:

Damn, and you were gonna be my next conspiracy theory Things go ok. Still at the office running around with my hair on fire, but the day will be ending soon. Thanks to you, and everyone else for your concern for Sonia. She seemed to be doing better this morning and made it to work. If she’s got what I am just now getting over, its gonna suck, but she’ll live. We all know we’re both too stubborn to just keel over Catch ya later my friend.

The comments on the sauce Saturday were great. Only thing I notice was people saw Habs in it and were thinking is heat. Very low heat level. which ok. They all like the taste.

Mrs.Ryan on 10/3/2006 at 6:25 pm said:

I will not live, I am now in the puking stage of this crap. and to add my 2 cents cus i just read this whole thread, it was not JUST bloggers talking smack, it was other people that had booths there. most of what I heard was just plain frustration at how the show was on trade day or how tired and hung over people were or just making fun of others, i for one will stand up and say I to this day can not stand a particular blogger and yes I talked a whole hell of a lot smack and it made me feel better I also gave craedit where credit was due to this blogger. Ryan isn’t talking about all bad smack talking it was smack talking in general and we all did it, and if you say no i did not, your lying to yourself. to each his own, I am going to bed now.

Thanks to you guys that passed on get well wishes, I luv ya!!

There you are read comment on ryans it’s for you. Pukeing not bad Betty Lou pukes ever time she eats then comes back and eats some more.

Mrs.Ryan on 10/3/2006 at 6:25 pm said:

I will not live, I am now in the puking stage of this crap. and to add my 2 cents cus i just read this whole thread, it was not JUST bloggers talking smack, it was other people that had booths there. most of what I heard was just plain frustration at how the show was on trade day or how tired and hung over people were or just making fun of others, i for one will stand up and say I to this day can not stand a particular blogger and yes I talked a whole hell of a lot smack and it made me feel better I also gave craedit where credit was due to this blogger. Ryan isn’t talking about all bad smack talking it was smack talking in general and we all did it, and if you say no i did not, your lying to yourself. to each his own, I am going to bed now.

Thanks to you guys that passed on get well wishes, I luv ya!!

“I’d kiss you…..But you’ve got puke breath” = obscure movie qoute

Glad you’re felling a little better……………VW

Bret, how’s it going man……

Haven’t talked to you in awhile, life good at your end?

“ryan saidAren’t there more important things than this going on right now? Go hug your kids, kiss your wife, go find a man, a woman, somebody to connect with even if its just for a moment, cause really that’s all life is… a series of moments. Don’t miss your moment. ”

Preach on Brotha’
Have stayed out of this whole thing and done just that. And yes, have read the whole thing.

….and now back to daddy time

Vic on 10/3/2006 at 6:20 pm said:

Hell Yes, It’s a burdon being such a Sexy Bitch!! Always treated like a piece of meat, a piece of Man Candy!! You know what I’m talking about Brother!!

That’s one big pievce of “Man Candy” ROFLMAO…..

Nick Lindauer on 10/3/2006 at 6:40 pm said:

Vic - Isn’t it “If I didn’t have puke breath, I’d kiss you.”?

From “Strange Brew” The Bob & Doug McKenzie Movie? It’s been a long long time since I’ve seen it.

Bret on 10/3/2006 at 6:29 pm said:

The comments on the sauce Saturday were great. Only thing I notice was people saw Habs in it and were thinking is heat. Very low heat level. which ok. They all like the taste.

Bret, what was the final scorecard on saturday?

eman on 10/3/2006 at 6:44 pm said:

“ryan saidAren’t there more important things than this going on right now? Go hug your kids, kiss your wife, go find a man, a woman, somebody to connect with even if its just for a moment, cause really that’s all life is… a series of moments. Don’t miss your moment. ”

Preach on Brotha’
Have stayed out of this whole thing and done just that. And yes, have read the whole thing.

….and now back to daddy time

How’s everything going eman? Family good? You still building that monster shell for me? 2′ round, 10′ tall?? lol

Vic on 10/3/2006 at 6:46 pm said:

From “Strange Brew” The Bob & Doug McKenzie Movie? It’s been a long long time since I’ve seen it.

12 beers of x-mas?? no Huv, that was not FREE BEER…but 12 beers..

So, back on topic for a comment.

Has anyone gotten one of these treasure chests?

thebigshow on 10/3/2006 at 6:50 pm said:

12 beers of x-mas?? no Huv, that was not FREE BEER…but 12 beers..

Vic on 10/3/2006 at 6:38 pm said:

Bret, how’s it going man……

Haven’t talked to you in awhile, life good at your end?

It’s great getting ready for 4th qt. Got to love retail. You

thebigshow on 10/3/2006 at 6:50 pm said:

12 beers of x-mas?? no Huv, that was not FREE BEER…but 12 beers..

Yeah!! That was the song they did!! Aye!!

thebigshow on 10/3/2006 at 6:50 pm said:

12 beers of x-mas?? no Huv, that was not FREE BEER…but 12 beers..

tease

Bret on 10/3/2006 at 6:56 pm said:

It’s great getting ready for 4th qt. Got to love retail. You

I hear you, do or die time!!
It brings out the best in people!!

Vic on 10/3/2006 at 6:56 pm said:

Yeah!! That was the song they did!! Aye!!

LOL…they still play that to this day here at x-mas time. lmao when i hear it. never saw the movie will have to go rent it

huvason on 10/3/2006 at 6:58 pm said:

tease

Just wanted to see if you were awake or not? how goes it?

how was the drive home? mine didnt start to good with that dumb broad getting on the highway, but got better other than the toll at the tap

thebigshow on 10/3/2006 at 7:04 pm said:

Just wanted to see if you were awake or not? how goes it?

how was the drive home? mine didnt start to good with that dumb broad getting on the highway, but got better other than the toll at the tap

All is good. Ride was fine. SOme slight traffic at the tunnel, but flew through the city and home. Just getting ready for dinner,etc.

huvason on 10/3/2006 at 7:05 pm said:

All is good. Ride was fine. SOme slight traffic at the tunnel, but flew through the city and home. Just getting ready for dinner,etc.

Funny how simple the trip is if you take the right tunnel

Nick Lindauer on 10/3/2006 at 7:05 pm said:

Watch it and take a drink everytime they say “eh” - you’ll be hammered about 20 minutes into it…

lol, thanx nick, thats all i need. should be gettin back on that wagon, but its a big step. lol… kinda like watching the bib newhart show and drinking everytime they say ‘bob” or scarface and “f$^%”

huvason on 10/3/2006 at 7:07 pm said:

Funny how simple the trip is if you take the right tunnel

who’s that jab at? …… ummmmmmm….. our elustrious moderator? lol… he was just tryin to take a short cut, to get out of the car and away from the 5th tamale…lol

thebigshow on 10/3/2006 at 7:10 pm said:

who’s that jab at? …… ummmmmmm….. our elustrious moderator? lol… he was just tryin to take a short cut, to get out of the car and away from the 5th tamale…lol

Actually the 5th Tamale took the wrong tunnel. Nick told him to take the “left” into Brooklyn

huvason on 10/3/2006 at 7:13 pm said:

Actually the 5th Tamale took the wrong tunnel. Nick told him to take the “left” into Brooklyn

oh, well that explains it. never let a polack drive! they get lost in their own driveways

thebigshow on 10/3/2006 at 7:20 pm said:

oh, well that explains it. never let a polack drive! they get lost in their own driveways

TRUE

Bob McKenzie: If I didn’t have puke breath, I’d kiss you.

thebigshow on 10/3/2006 at 6:49 pm said:

How’s everything going eman? Family good? You still building that monster shell for me? 2′ round, 10′ tall?? lol

hell yeah…..you get to light it though

Mrs.Ryan on 10/3/2006 at 6:25 pm said:

I will not live, I am now in the puking stage of this crap. and to add my 2 cents cus i just read this whole thread, it was not JUST bloggers talking smack, it was other people that had booths there. most of what I heard was just plain frustration at how the show was on trade day or how tired and hung over people were or just making fun of others, i for one will stand up and say I to this day can not stand a particular blogger and yes I talked a whole hell of a lot smack and it made me feel better I also gave craedit where credit was due to this blogger. Ryan isn’t talking about all bad smack talking it was smack talking in general and we all did it, and if you say no i did not, your lying to yourself. to each his own, I am going to bed now.

Thanks to you guys that passed on get well wishes, I luv ya!!

LOL! (very loud) Rest assured, that blogger didn’t lose any sleep over it. It’s just a shame you couldn’t bring yourself to spew the baseless hate-filled vitriol at them in person, I’m sure they would have been thoroughly amused.

wow, just wow.