Nice review Jodie…shame it didn’t work out on flavor, leftovers is when you really want a sauce to shine, at least for me.

Would this be like a gimmick label? did i just say that?

good job BA!!!!!

the truth on 2/10/2007 at 10:29 am said:

Would this be like a gimmick label? did i just say that?

good job BA!!!!!

What the hell is BA? Did you mean FA you FB!

ba…fa you know your name..lolol

the truth on 2/10/2007 at 10:50 am said:

ba…fa you know your name..lolol

I am going to not say anything……..;-)

Did goonie Nick pass away or something ? he has not commented on anything here yet..wow the whole new thing is starting to wear off (thank God)

Big Dawg on 2/10/2007 at 10:13 am said:

Nice review Jodie…shame it didn’t work out on flavor, leftovers is when you really want a sauce to shine, at least for me.

I was surprsied my self because this sauce won a 2005 Golden Chili. My again this is just my opinion and you know what they say about that!

my again ???????

the truth on 2/10/2007 at 11:18 am said:

my again ???????

You out of all people should know what it is like typing with fat fingers…they just get in the way sometimes!

lolololol

Jodie on 2/10/2007 at 11:03 am said:

I was surprsied my self because this sauce won a 2005 Golden Chili. My again this is just my opinion and you know what they say about that!

At the risk of usurping ‘The Truth’s’ role in this organization….

Keep a jaundiced eye towards those awards. *NOT* they are not sometimes well deserved, but they are also handed out by promoters in an attempt to snag some more ad dollars. “Have you considered leveraging that wonderful new award you just received with one of our special rate ad packages?”

Unfortunately, there are very few un-biased awards. Anyone handing out an award usually has a dog in the fight, either as a show promoter or ad seller and it’s in their best interest to hand out lots of awards. Even the Peoples Choice awards are many times more about who can do the best carnival barking.

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 2/10/2007 at 11:27 am said:

At the risk of usurping ‘The Truth’s’ role in this organization….

Keep a jaundiced eye towards those awards. *NOT* they are not sometimes well deserved, but they are also handed out by promoters in an attempt to snag some more ad dollars. “Have you considered leveraging that wonderful new award you just received with one of our special rate ad packages?”

Unfortunately, there are very few un-biased awards. Anyone handing out an award usually has a dog in the fight, either as a show promoter or ad seller and it’s in their best interest to hand out lots of awards. Even the Peoples Choice awards are many times more about who can do the best carnival barking.

Amen Brother Jim, Amen!

the truth on 2/10/2007 at 10:56 am said:

Did goonie Nick pass away or something ? he has not commented on anything here yet..wow the whole new thing is starting to wear off (thank God)

No shit!

the truth on 2/10/2007 at 10:56 am said:

Did goonie Nick pass away or something ? he has not commented on anything here yet..wow the whole new thing is starting to wear off (thank God)

Goonie Nick is alive and well!! Thanks for the concern, lol.. even though I have been sick lately and not feeling too well overall.

the truth on 2/10/2007 at 10:29 am said:

Would this be like a gimmick label? did i just say that?

good job BA!!!!!

I have had their liquid lava and it might be the worst tasting extract sauce I have ever had… To me they are a company with an appealing label and nothing more..

Soooo..Nick you would buy a hot sauce just cause they have a nice label?

the truth on 2/10/2007 at 4:51 pm said:

Soooo..Nick you would buy a hot sauce just cause they have a nice label?

Are you starting trouble again FB?

the truth on 2/10/2007 at 4:51 pm said:

Soooo..Nick you would buy a hot sauce just cause they have a nice label?

Here we go……

I miss Ryan, he’d have something to say!

no no no ladies those day and those people are gone(to bad) I am honestly just asking him a ? i may break his balls but i do like him..Oh and not in that way big head…

the truth on 2/10/2007 at 4:51 pm said:

Soooo..Nick you would buy a hot sauce just cause they have a nice label?

Absolutely not! However, as it goes there are many companies that I have not tried before or gotten a chance to read a review upon. I like trying new things so upon shopping I will try some stuff that looks interesting.

It’s just the nature of the game. If I don’t like something I will try to finish it and add the cleaned bottle to my collection, if it’s really that bad it gets tossed down the drain and then added.

Very few I would say I have had to do this with.

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 2/10/2007 at 11:27 am said:

At the risk of usurping ‘The Truth’s’ role in this organization….

Keep a jaundiced eye towards those awards. *NOT* they are not sometimes well deserved, but they are also handed out by promoters in an attempt to snag some more ad dollars. “Have you considered leveraging that wonderful new award you just received with one of our special rate ad packages?”

Unfortunately, there are very few un-biased awards. Anyone handing out an award usually has a dog in the fight, either as a show promoter or ad seller and it’s in their best interest to hand out lots of awards. Even the Peoples Choice awards are many times more about who can do the best carnival barking.

Well Jim, you and I have had these kind of talks on several occasions, but now that you have brought it public, let me chime in. It is not always the award presenters who are the bad guy. A lot of the time the entrant does a small, quality laden “Entry Batch” that is quite different from what is the production recipe. The “Entry Batch” is an outstanding sauce, but far to expensive (or some other reason) to produce. Then after the award is secure, the swill goes in the bottle which is labeled ___Award Winner.

I’m not saying that this is the case in CMP’s sauce reviewed here, but it is a common practice in the quest for awards. I feel the Golden Chiles are the top of the heap when it comes to awards, it is the most pretigious award one in this industry can win. I have served as a judge and “watchdog” at the Fiery Food Challenge, and can say this is TRULY a fair contest. Sour grapes and wasted entry fees lead to much of the talk like yours. I also point back to the 2001 awards when after they found a scoring error on the Cook It Up side of the contest, they recinded their awards (of which the winners which had already been notified) and passed them on to the rightful winners. The error could have easily been swept under the rug. They upset a lot of people, but they gained a ton of credibility. I lost three of those awards, but I’m glad they did what they did.

What you speak of is easily explained in some venues. Yes I know of whom you speak, but you really should keep these sort of things under your hat. It also points out why a manufacturer should not be a “reviewer” on a public forum such as this blog. It is not an “unbiased opinion”. There is nothing wrong with the review, but the follow-up comment should not have been posted.

I know this will not be a popular opinion, but when Nick appointed manufacturers as reviewers, I knew this would happen. I have no beef with the people I am speaking of, they have done some outstanding reviews. They just are in a position they should not be in. They make terrific sauces and are great people.

By the way, all of the product we enter in the awards come right off the shelf. (Just a pre-emptive answer to the inevitable question). They are the same as you can buy at any of my retailers. This discussion can open a huge can of worms, I hope it doesn’t.

ummm glade to hear from you John.as allways just cant help wondering what manufacture you would be speaking of..care to mention???

We’ve had *lots* of talks about stuff My comment wasn’t intended to trash anybody’s awards- it was just a note of caution to folks who are tempted to mortgage the house because they got an award. You & I saw an entire arena of folks near ruined by that lure out in California.

I agree that manufacturers probably don’t make the best reviewers from the public’s perspective. Nick asked me last week to review something (I’m still working on it bossman) but my very first comment to him was that I didn’t think it was appropriate that I do so. I’d have to address the fact that I’m likely to profit inderctly from anything that I review, being connected to sooo many different people in the biz. I told him I was in a ‘no win’ situation. If I praise the sauce, I’m a wh..re for promoting something for which I’ll profit; if I toast it, they’ll never buy from me again

The public could also easily view a review of something to which I’m not connected as trashing a ‘competitor’ in order to advance as well. I have done, and still do literally hundreds of reviews but those are private consultations for the creator of the sauce. I really don’t think as a manufacturer, that my opinion is worth a darn in a public forum as it can always be assailed as suspect.

Too much beer and makers mark to follow this tonight!!!

huvason on 2/10/2007 at 8:32 pm said:

Too much beer and makers mark to follow this tonight!!!

Last time I had a beer was at Defcon in NJ… LOL.. Same thing goes with a pretzel..

CaJohn on 2/10/2007 at 7:03 pm said:

Well Jim, you and I have had these kind of talks on several occasions, but now that you have brought it public, let me chime in. It is not always the award presenters who are the bad guy. A lot of the time the entrant does a small, quality laden “Entry Batch” that is quite different from what is the production recipe. The “Entry Batch” is an outstanding sauce, but far to expensive (or some other reason) to produce. Then after the award is secure, the swill goes in the bottle which is labeled ___Award Winner.

I’m not saying that this is the case in CMP’s sauce reviewed here, but it is a common practice in the quest for awards. I feel the Golden Chiles are the top of the heap when it comes to awards, it is the most pretigious award one in this industry can win. I have served as a judge and “watchdog” at the Fiery Food Challenge, and can say this is TRULY a fair contest. Sour grapes and wasted entry fees lead to much of the talk like yours. I also point back to the 2001 awards when after they found a scoring error on the Cook It Up side of the contest, they recinded their awards (of which the winners which had already been notified) and passed them on to the rightful winners. The error could have easily been swept under the rug. They upset a lot of people, but they gained a ton of credibility. I lost three of those awards, but I’m glad they did what they did.

What you speak of is easily explained in some venues. Yes I know of whom you speak, but you really should keep these sort of things under your hat. It also points out why a manufacturer should not be a “reviewer” on a public forum such as this blog. It is not an “unbiased opinion”. There is nothing wrong with the review, but the follow-up comment should not have been posted.

I know this will not be a popular opinion, but when Nick appointed manufacturers as reviewers, I knew this would happen. I have no beef with the people I am speaking of, they have done some outstanding reviews. They just are in a position they should not be in. They make terrific sauces and are great people.

By the way, all of the product we enter in the awards come right off the shelf. (Just a pre-emptive answer to the inevitable question). They are the same as you can buy at any of my retailers. This discussion can open a huge can of worms, I hope it doesn’t.

You can get all the Cajohn’s products at Jungle Jim’s.

Bret on 2/10/2007 at 9:11 pm said:

You can get all the Cajohn’s products at Jungle Jim’s.

Nice plug Brother!!

Bret on 2/10/2007 at 9:11 pm said:

You can get all the Cajohn’s products at Jungle Jim’s.

And all of Jim’s Mild to Wild Products also at Jungle Jim’s

Don’t mind me guys I’am just pluging your products and my store.

Bret on 2/10/2007 at 9:14 pm said:

And all of Jim’s Mild to Wild Products also at Jungle Jim’s

Ditto…..

You’re good at this.

Vic on 2/10/2007 at 9:16 pm said:

Ditto…..

You’re good at this.

Better watch it. Might have to send you my resume.

Bret on 2/10/2007 at 9:18 pm said:

Better watch it. Might have to send you my resume.

Ok, dust that bad boy off!!

Vic on 2/10/2007 at 9:19 pm said:

Ok, dust that bad boy off!!

Hummm..

Tracy C on 2/10/2007 at 9:22 pm said:

Hummm..

Hey there Capt.!!!!

Tracy C on 2/10/2007 at 9:22 pm said:

Hummm..

Watch it Capt

Tracy C on 2/10/2007 at 9:22 pm said:

Hummm..

Thanks again for being part of that little surprise, my sister is a trip. That was sweet of her and pretty sweet of you if I must say.

Vic on 2/10/2007 at 9:26 pm said:

Thanks again for being part of that little surprise, my sister is a trip. That was sweet of her and pretty sweet of you if I must say.

No probs mate! Yer sweet too! So is Bret..

Tracy C on 2/10/2007 at 9:29 pm said:

No probs mate! Yer sweet too! So is Bret..

Vic that would make you I. OMG the picture in my head

Games over, I’m heading off to bed. Damn the AFC!

Bret on 2/10/2007 at 9:35 pm said:

Vic that would make you I. OMG the picture in my head

Still on topic..peachy perversion!

Bret on 2/10/2007 at 9:35 pm said:

Vic that would make you I. OMG the picture in my head

That’s one BIG scary picture! lol!

To all you SWEET guys, good night.

Long and starting early day tomorrow….Cya

so now that my life is back on a somewhat even keel, i come back to hummers, heads and fruit perversions, nice to know this place doesn’t change much.

Phone calls will be made soon to those of you I promised to get back to, um about a month ago. miss you all lots, sweet dreams and have a great night.

BTW, yes that would be a gimmick and I would buy a sauce for the label.

Mrs.Ryan on 2/10/2007 at 9:44 pm said:

so now that my life is back on a somewhat even keel, i come back to hummers, heads and fruit perversions, nice to know this place doesn’t change much.

Phone calls will be made soon to those of you I promised to get back to, um about a month ago. miss you all lots, sweet dreams and have a great night.

BTW, yes that would be a gimmick and I would buy a sauce for the label.

Hi Mrs. Ryan! I think yer sweet too! Much sweeter than those two gorillas..

Mrs.Ryan on 2/10/2007 at 9:44 pm said:

so now that my life is back on a somewhat even keel, i come back to hummers, heads and fruit perversions, nice to know this place doesn’t change much.

Phone calls will be made soon to those of you I promised to get back to, um about a month ago. miss you all lots, sweet dreams and have a great night.

BTW, yes that would be a gimmick and I would buy a sauce for the label.

Hello Mr. S!!!!

CaJohn on 2/10/2007 at 7:03 pm said:

Well Jim, you and I have had these kind of talks on several occasions, but now that you have brought it public, let me chime in. It is not always the award presenters who are the bad guy. A lot of the time the entrant does a small, quality laden “Entry Batch” that is quite different from what is the production recipe. The “Entry Batch” is an outstanding sauce, but far to expensive (or some other reason) to produce. Then after the award is secure, the swill goes in the bottle which is labeled ___Award Winner.

I’m not saying that this is the case in CMP’s sauce reviewed here, but it is a common practice in the quest for awards. I feel the Golden Chiles are the top of the heap when it comes to awards, it is the most pretigious award one in this industry can win. I have served as a judge and “watchdog” at the Fiery Food Challenge, and can say this is TRULY a fair contest. Sour grapes and wasted entry fees lead to much of the talk like yours. I also point back to the 2001 awards when after they found a scoring error on the Cook It Up side of the contest, they recinded their awards (of which the winners which had already been notified) and passed them on to the rightful winners. The error could have easily been swept under the rug. They upset a lot of people, but they gained a ton of credibility. I lost three of those awards, but I’m glad they did what they did.

What you speak of is easily explained in some venues. Yes I know of whom you speak, but you really should keep these sort of things under your hat. It also points out why a manufacturer should not be a “reviewer” on a public forum such as this blog. It is not an “unbiased opinion”. There is nothing wrong with the review, but the follow-up comment should not have been posted.

I know this will not be a popular opinion, but when Nick appointed manufacturers as reviewers, I knew this would happen. I have no beef with the people I am speaking of, they have done some outstanding reviews. They just are in a position they should not be in. They make terrific sauces and are great people.

By the way, all of the product we enter in the awards come right off the shelf. (Just a pre-emptive answer to the inevitable question). They are the same as you can buy at any of my retailers. This discussion can open a huge can of worms, I hope it doesn’t.

I have never been nothing but completely honest with any review I have given. I have RAVED about others products. I have licked their bottles cleaned because they were so damn good. If I don’t like a product, I will say something just as if I like a product I will say something. As for my follow up comment, it was just that, a comment to Big Dawg of my surprise because it had won a Golden Chili. What, because I am part of THT I can not have an opinion of another’s sauce? I think I have proved that if a sauce is good, I will let you know. Just because I am a manufacturer of hot sauces does not mean that I have lost my taste buds or that I do not have an opinion. This has nothing to do with THT. This has to do with me, Jodie, the individual. So please leave THT out of it, which includes Kristi and Lisa. Now my question is, why have you not said anything when I have given 10s out in my reviews? How does that help THT or me for that matter? I am sure there has been one other review that wasn’t good either and yet you did not comment on that. Is there a reason why this particular review of CMP sauce bothers you? I was honest, as I always am and that is all that is asked of me. Besides, I do this for fun. I do this because I enjoy tasting all the other sauces out there. And again, reviews are just one persons opinion, we all have one! I am not sure what you are speaking of when you say “I knew this would happen”. What happened? If this review personally offended you, I apologize, but I will keep doing reviews for Nick for as long as he lets me because I enjoy it and I am as honest as any other reviewer here.

Jodie on 2/10/2007 at 10:14 pm said:

I have never been nothing but completely honest with any review I have given. I have RAVED about others products. I have licked their bottles cleaned because they were so damn good. If I don’t like a product, I will say something just as if I like a product I will say something. As for my follow up comment, it was just that, a comment to Big Dawg of my surprise because it had won a Golden Chili. What, because I am part of THT I can not have an opinion of another’s sauce? I think I have proved that if a sauce is good, I will let you know. Just because I am a manufacturer of hot sauces does not mean that I have lost my taste buds or that I do not have an opinion. This has nothing to do with THT. This has to do with me, Jodie, the individual. So please leave THT out of it, which includes Kristi and Lisa. Now my question is, why have you not said anything when I have given 10s out in my reviews? How does that help THT or me for that matter? I am sure there has been one other review that wasn’t good either and yet you did not comment on that. Is there a reason why this particular review of CMP sauce bothers you? I was honest, as I always am and that is all that is asked of me. Besides, I do this for fun. I do this because I enjoy tasting all the other sauces out there. And again, reviews are just one persons opinion, we all have one! I am not sure what you are speaking of when you say “I knew this would happen”. What happened? If this review personally offended you, I apologize, but I will keep doing reviews for Nick for as long as he lets me because I enjoy it and I am as honest as any other reviewer here.

JGBD?

Easy Jodie, like you said it’s an opinion. John is projecting his opinion about a subject. Don’t take it personal, if you feel secure about your reviews than be proud of them. You can’t please all people and again pepole are still going to have their opinions, just ask the TRUTH! HA!
Take with a grain of salt girl, you’re doing just fine. John did give respect to whom he was refering to.

Scotty B

DK on 2/10/2007 at 10:26 pm said:

JGBD?

What the hell is JBDG?

Jodie on 2/10/2007 at 10:14 pm said:

I have never been nothing but completely honest with any review I have given. I have RAVED about others products. I have licked their bottles cleaned because they were so damn good. If I don’t like a product, I will say something just as if I like a product I will say something. As for my follow up comment, it was just that, a comment to Big Dawg of my surprise because it had won a Golden Chili. What, because I am part of THT I can not have an opinion of another’s sauce? I think I have proved that if a sauce is good, I will let you know. Just because I am a manufacturer of hot sauces does not mean that I have lost my taste buds or that I do not have an opinion. This has nothing to do with THT. This has to do with me, Jodie, the individual. So please leave THT out of it, which includes Kristi and Lisa. Now my question is, why have you not said anything when I have given 10s out in my reviews? How does that help THT or me for that matter? I am sure there has been one other review that wasn’t good either and yet you did not comment on that. Is there a reason why this particular review of CMP sauce bothers you? I was honest, as I always am and that is all that is asked of me. Besides, I do this for fun. I do this because I enjoy tasting all the other sauces out there. And again, reviews are just one persons opinion, we all have one! I am not sure what you are speaking of when you say “I knew this would happen”. What happened? If this review personally offended you, I apologize, but I will keep doing reviews for Nick for as long as he lets me because I enjoy it and I am as honest as any other reviewer here.

And the THT product’s can also be bought at Jungle Jim’s

Scotty B’s Hot Sauces on 2/10/2007 at 10:30 pm said:

Easy Jodie, like you said it’s an opinion. John is projecting his opinion about a subject. Don’t take it personal, if you feel secure about your reviews than be proud of them. You can’t please all people and again pepole are still going to have their opinions, just ask the TRUTH! HA!
Take with a grain of salt girl, you’re doing just fine. John did give respect to whom he was refering to.

Scotty B

Well Scott’y B product well still working on that one..LOL What’s up Scotty

Mrs.Ryan on 2/10/2007 at 9:44 pm said:

so now that my life is back on a somewhat even keel, i come back to hummers, heads and fruit perversions, nice to know this place doesn’t change much.

Phone calls will be made soon to those of you I promised to get back to, um about a month ago. miss you all lots, sweet dreams and have a great night.

BTW, yes that would be a gimmick and I would buy a sauce for the label.

And Mrs Ryan Sauce can be at Bought At JJ’s also.

Maybe one day HotSauceGoonie will make it into Jungle Jim’s!! LOL

GoonieNick on 2/10/2007 at 10:50 pm said:

Maybe one day HotSauceGoonie will make it into Jungle Jim’s!! LOL

As will I. Maybe in August?

I agree with CaJohn.

and I’ve never left….

DK on 2/10/2007 at 10:57 pm said:

As will I. Maybe in August?

I doubt it. August is a prime month of mine for hurricane chasing! I am hoping this year will be much more active than last season. 2005 was great as I got to stare Katrina right in the eye at Waveland, MS.

2004 I met Jeanne and Frances at Broward, FL.

What will 2007 bring? Let’s find out…

Bret on 2/10/2007 at 10:46 pm said:

Well Scott’y B product well still working on that one..LOL What’s up Scotty

Hey, I have been trying to contact you thru e-mails. Thought you were just returning the favor HA!

E-mail me Bret!

thakswet on 2/10/2007 at 11:04 pm said:

I agree with CaJohn.

and I’ve never left….

Well, after reading over the comments a few times, I think jodie has a point. I think the issue is in this part of CaJohn’s comment.

I have no beef with the people I am speaking of, they have done some outstanding reviews. They just are in a position they should not be in. They make terrific sauces and are great people.

The word “they”. See, as Jodie stated, her reviews are hers and hers alone. It says right at the top of the page “Posted on 02.10.07 by Jodie @ 7:24 am “. I don’t see anything about THT at all. Yes, she is part of THT, but she never brings that into the revies, so only those that know her would know of her association. As for the comment about the sauce winning an award and being disappointed, that’s a valid statement that could have very well been stated in the review. I have purchased sauces with award stickers on them that tasted like garbage and had the same thought. I don’t work for or own a hot sauce company. But if I buy an award winning sauce, I have some small expectation of at least a hint of quality. Jodie, good job on the review. Like you said, opinions are like ….well, you didn’t say that, but you know what I mean. Everyone has one, and this comment is mine. Anybody got change for a nickel?

revies = reviews, sorry.

Wanted to post a comment real quick… so Bret can mention Big Dawg Salsa is at Jungle Jims…:mrgreen:

I got into this business becasue I like hot sauce and everyone in the business in 97 were pretty much straight up (save the occasional misfit). I reserve my judgement of anyones products to a person to person basis and won’t go public with anything about sauces in a specific manner. To review is fine, to further state anything negative is wide open to the interpretation of the one reading the statement. I really think me stating my opinion as to wether something is right or wrong is well within the “political boundries” of what I do.

Now to answer some of the points that have been raised. Truth, I don’t think there is any question about the individuals I am refering to if you know the industry.

As far as your response Jodie, THT has nothing to with this other than you’re one of them. You have to know whatever you do will effect whatever you are associated with. I have never thought or stated anything questioning your honesty, and yes you are entitled to your opinion. When you step into the world of journalism (which this blog is certainly part of, Nick carries press credentials into the shows, look at his badge) it is your responsibility to report things as you see them. That is what you did in your review (all of your reviews for that matter). This is a close knit group of people who participate openly on the blog, they are far outnumbered by the people who read it and never bother to post. Look at all the new posters on the NM Roll Call thread. I talk to people every week who tell me things about the blog but never post. Ask Nick for the stats again if you need proof. State your case and leave it at the review.

As far as my statement about “I knew this would happen” it’s exactly what felt. I had many conversations with other manufacturers and distributors who stated the same misgivings with manufacturers getting involved with “rating” other manufacturer’s products. It is like a time bomb, it would go off sometime. There are sometimes we just have to keep what we think among ourselves, not for the world to see.

I took Jim’s atatement as an attack on all Award contests. There are some that aren’t worth entering for those who can’t “pay the price” to gain the award. One year is all it takes to see what is really going on. Yes, as Jim states, there are “pay for praise” contests out there, and People’s Choice often means “who brought the most fans”. But that’s life in the world of competition, I’ve been in most all of the ones out there and I know which ones are legit. You won’t see me pointing any fingers on here though.

Jodie, I’m not offended by the review, I’m not offended by your comment. I just hate to see friends do things I feel they shouldn’t do. I’m sorry if me stating my point has offended you. I think you should know how I feel about you and your cohorts. And as I’m pointing out, this may have not been the proper venue for what I’m saying.

DK, Jodie is not the only manufacturer who is doing reviews. I know you aren’t aware of who is what as you’re fairly new to all of this. I appreciate you jumping into this, I too have had sauces that failed to meet my expectations, sometimes they are my own. As I stated in my post, the ones that are submitted aren’t always the ones that are sold on the racks at places like Jungle Jim’s and other retailers. It’s all part of the game.

As Jim pointed out in his follow-up post, all of us have as much to lose as what we have to gain when we get involved with “reviewing” others products. Trash them, and to some you’re trashing someones #1 favorite. That is someone who you will never sell another sauce to.

So all in all, I’m just stating my position. To those I have offended, that wasn’t my intent.

Hi Mrs Ryan, it’s good to see you around. Give my best to Ryan, you’ve both been greatly missed. All the best to you both!

We know of a company, that doesn’t participate on here, that sent in a more elaborate recipe with more ingredients than what is listed now on his manufactured stuff…he staked everything on the Chile pepper win by quitting his job and now looks to be going belly up….hate to see anyone go belly up but what comes around goes around.

I think the thing I love about HSB is it is a place to voice opinions…whether it be about reviews, riding the SB, or dunking Mac in your cheese. I applaud all who post for I enjoy reading all of it, just remember they are opinions and what makes the world go round is everyone is different and it is a luxury of freedom. So lets all hold hands…mmmmmm….kumbaya my lord…kumbaya.

I just want to start out by saying I enjoy your reviews and think your completly honest…. But when you say it has nothing to do with the THT, there’s a issue there…. DK says it just says your name there, but if I click on your name in the Comments it takes me right to the THT…. I think you took CaJohns statement out of context, in his comment he had nothing but positive things to say about you!!!! I see it as him looking out for someone…. Nobody is slamming you about the review, just pointing out some facts that could bring negative light to you and the THT… I know you love to do reviews but why risk hurting your Company?

Hopefully you don’t take my comment as a negative statement, I look forward in meeting you in NM……

If I say Clark Kent, what’s your first thought? Superman

See you can’t have one with out the other…….

Re: I took Jim’s atatement as an attack on all Award contests.

You should have known better That’s why I specifically *didn’t* use words like ‘all’ or ‘none’ but instead used ‘few’ and ‘most’. You then use the perceived lack of objectivity as the reason manufacturers shouldn’t do reviews- my point with the contests *exactly*

There’s a challenge for you Nick- come up with a contest where the group doing the judging profits not in the slightest- either through ads, traffic, subscriptions, multi-hundred dollar entry fees, or revenue

DK, Jodie is not the only manufacturer who is doing reviews. I know you aren’t aware of who is what as you’re fairly new to all of this. I appreciate you jumping into this, I too have had sauces that failed to meet my expectations, sometimes they are my own. As I stated in my post, the ones that are submitted aren’t always the ones that are sold on the racks at places like Jungle Jim’s and other retailers. It’s all part of the game.

Clarification. I think that is what it all boils down to. I had read your comment several times trying to not jump to any conclusions before I posted. I am aware that there are other manufacurers here as reviewers. And if the “they” in your comment was refering to them, then I just flat missed it. My goal in the post was try and help clarify certain statements. There were people offended obviously by some of them and in my opinion, something needed to be said, right or wrong. Keeping quiet wouldn’t solve anything.

One thing that still confuses me though, is what the awards have to do with manufacturers. I understand your reply to Jim, but if Jodie’s review was good, why even bring up the “reviewer” issue? I still think that her comment about the Golden Chili was warranted and should have actually been part of the review. To me it wasn’t viewed as a Manuacturer bashing another Manufacturer. It was a reviewer stating an honest opinion about their expectations for the product. We see statements similar to this about labels, so why not make a similar statement about the awards sticker? There have been statements on the flip side of this that go unchallenged. Low opinion of the label, low expectations of the sauce, then after tasteing, the hell with the label, it’s a great sauce. This one just went the other way. Great label, awards sticker, disappointed in the sauce. This is just my opinion, it’s not an attack towards anyone, I’m just seeking clarification. Clarification of my statements, and others. That’s all.

DK says it just says your name there, but if I click on your name in the Comments it takes me right to the THT

Ok Blane, who peed in your Mac & Cheese? LOL!

Blane, I see your point precisely, but there is a discrepancy here that needs to be addressed. There is no link on Jodie’s name at the top of the page. But there is one at the bottom Maybe neither should be a link. I don’t know, but it appears to me that this is an attempt to give the credibility to the reviewer AND inform the public of who is writing the review. In other words, when you first start reading the article, you only know that this is Jodie that wrote it. Then after reading through the review, you notice the link on her name and if you are interested, then you can click it to learn more about this person. At least the fact that she is a manufacturer isn’t being hidden. To me, the fact that she has experience in the field lends more credibility to her reviews. If you were on trial for a crime, would you want someone who wrastles gators giving his opinion on your insanity, or an actual person in that particular field? Yea, I know it could go either way. But if you look, highlight my name in the comments section. This little box pops up with a picture of my site, “The Bog”. I am the one that added the link into my comments, but hell, I didn’t know it would pop up that box until just the other day. My point there, the navigation on this site is not up to me, or Jodie, or anyone else other than the administrator of the site. Because of the lack of the link at the top of the page, the issue that you state Blane seems to have been addressed in some way.

Nobody is slamming you about the review, just pointing out some facts that could bring negative light to you and the THT… I know you love to do reviews but why risk hurting your Company?

Hey Winder Licker, CaJohn said it wasn’t directed at THT, can’t you read? as to the part about risking hurting the company, that’s BS. Every time that a manufacturer posts a comment in this blog, they are risking putting their companies reputation on the line. So what do you do? Shut the hell up and nobody knows who you are? That’s smart. Heck, I’m risking pissin’ you off over this thing to state my opinion. And who am I? I’m not a manufacturer with a business to worry about, but I do have a few friends on this blog that I risk losing with every word that I type. So, should I just keep quiet and let things slide? I think my opinion is as valuable on this site as anyone’s, right or wrong. So every once in a while I say something. I hope everyone here understands that my comments are not a personal attack on anyone.

Ok, I’m done. I hope I didn’t interrupt your Mac and cheese dip Blane. Be careful with that stuff!

Now back to my cold meds.

There’s a challenge for you Nick- come up with a contest where the group doing the judging profits not in the slightest- either through ads, traffic, subscriptions, multi-hundred dollar entry fees, or revenue

And if it works, then we could use it for our election system! I’m not trying to get political, heck, I hate politics mainly for the same reason. It’s just that there’s always an agle, everyone has a special interest in an outcome. Contests, elections, reviews, anything. I was a professional car audio installer for several years and competed in car audio contests around the country. 95% of the judging was subjective and relied on completely on someone’s opinion of something to score a vehicle. The judges were from all parts of life. Enthusiasts, installers, sales people, distributors, you name it they were involved. Each person had a different opinion based on their experience and staake in the industry. This could not be helped. Overall, the system worked great, but yes, there were times that feelings were hurt and people were upset and had disagreements to outcomes.

My point is, as long as we can all have a say, then it will be as fair as it can ever be. That’s all. Opinions are important, good or bad, no matter who they come from.

Big Dawg on 2/11/2007 at 1:26 am said:

Wanted to post a comment real quick… so Bret can mention Big Dawg Salsa is at Jungle Jims…:mrgreen:

That’s right Big Dawg Products also at Jungle jim’s

Bret on 2/11/2007 at 10:17 am said:

That’s right Big Dawg Products also at Jungle jim’s

Any SB products Bret? LOL!

Hey lookie DK. Your last post was #69! Today will be yer lucky day!

Tracy C on 2/11/2007 at 10:30 am said:

Hey lookie DK. Your last post was #69! Today will be yer lucky day!

And it included a mention of the SB, how perfect is that! LOL! Good mornin’ Capn’!

Morning DK!

DK on 2/11/2007 at 10:24 am said:

Any SB products Bret? LOL!

I’m so sorry Yes the SHORT BUS HOT SAUCE can only be bought at Jungle Jim’s

Tracy C on 2/11/2007 at 10:43 am said:

Morning DK!

And don’t forget to buy one or all of CAPE FEAR products at Jungle Jim’s

Bret on 2/11/2007 at 10:52 am said:

And don’t forget to buy one or all of CAPE FEAR products at Jungle Jim’s

And a Cape Fear Tee shirt togo along with that bottle of Hot sauce.

Bret on 2/11/2007 at 10:50 am said:

I’m so sorry Yes the SHORT BUS HOT SAUCE can only be bought at Jungle Jim’s

Bret on 2/11/2007 at 10:52 am said:

And don’t forget to buy one or all of CAPE FEAR products at Jungle Jim’s

Bret on 2/11/2007 at 10:56 am said:

And a Cape Fear Tee shirt togo along with that bottle of Hot sauce.

LOL!!

Mornin’ Bret!