Great review Clint! I thought the same thing about the label, first thing that came to mind when I saw it was Black Sabbath! N.I.B. was the first song to pop into my head. I’m gonna get a bottle of this for sure. I love a puree type sauce for the pureness of the pepper flavor, this will probably be right up my alley.

Thanx Clint, this review Rocks!

I like it too. I think i will have to get a bottle for the collection wall.

Morning Clint, how does the flavor compare to
Just Damn Good Habanero. Oh by the way sending
down those shirts for you and daniel today, should
have them by Wed. or Thurs.
Keep on Rocking out them reviews!!
Scotty B

“the label looks the way a Black Sabbath song sounds, and that can’t be bad.”

Now that was a good line! Great review!

Your totally slacking on letting me try your review sauces, I think ive let you try like 10 of my new paid for sauces, and havent touched one of your review sauces your slacking, I want to try this one! Any sauce thats good on a burrito is good in my fridge.

Always about the labels….amazing!!!!

yes I believe the truth is it’s always about the labels, if it’s generic or not eye catching people will pass it by.

so i guess most people are label collecting not hot sauce collectors ummmm interesting

the truth on 8/12/2006 at 1:26 pm said:

so i guess most people are label collecting not hot sauce collectors ummmm interesting

Who’s collecting? I’m gonna buy this sauce, open it, slather it on some fast food burritos, and crank up Paranoid on the Stereo! This stuff will probably be gone before the end of the CD! It’s all about everything man, the label, the sauce, the food, the music! Rock on truth!

the truth on 8/12/2006 at 1:26 pm said:

so i guess most people are label collecting not hot sauce collectors ummmm interesting

ummmm - no. Although I am a proponent for your remarks I think you flew off the handle here. Granted there may be people here who collect solely for labels. I know people who collect much weirder things. We review bottles as a whole. Clint just went along with our regular reviewing criteria. So maybe direct your comments to an individual rather than a generic comment. What Clint stated was perfect.

the truth on 8/12/2006 at 1:26 pm said:

so i guess most people are label collecting not hot sauce collectors ummmm interesting

As for collectors, I think it’s about the label. If it’s for consumption, it’s about the sauce. But an eye catching lablel and/or name, may get the consumer for the first time to try it, then if they like they will buy it over and over again.

There was just a big discusion about this, the “gimmick” as was stated in the thread. Sorry, I don’t remember which thread off to the top of my head.

it was in the last review that clint did. I love a good gimmick whether i eat the sauce or not, BUT as i stated in the other thread, I also will only collect what catches my eye, whether it be a label or a bottle. i may consume other sauces but if something other than the sauce does not appeal to me I won’t put it on my special shelf. AGAIN i state that for myself and how/what I collect I am in no way speaking for anyone else.

Mrs.Ryan on 8/12/2006 at 1:56 pm said:

it was in the last review that clint did. I love a good gimmick whether i eat the sauce or not, BUT as i stated in the other thread, I also will only collect what catches my eye, whether it be a label or a bottle. i may consume other sauces but if something other than the sauce does not appeal to me I won’t put it on my special shelf. AGAIN i state that for myself and how/what I collect I am in no way speaking for anyone else.

Thanx Mrs R. I agree, I left out the bottle. A kewl shaped bottle is always nice to display too. I suppose there are collectors out there, that would like to just display everything they can get their hands on too. To me, that’s just too much to try and track down, but definately good for them. I’m sure we’ve all seen Vic and Wendy’s collection,they must have like 1 of everuthing in there, no matter what it is.

the truth on 8/12/2006 at 1:17 pm said:

Always about the labels….amazing!!!!

Well, the review seems to have more emphasis on the sauce than the label, only 5 lines dedicated to it’s description. But What a label, and the description was spot on. I feel the rest of the review will be spot on as well. I will absolutely buy this sauce to consume, maybe even one to display alongside my Heavy metal CD collection as well.

truth, your comments are always welcome here, but it seems you are the only one hung up on labels, so just let it go. This horse has beaten to death. Labels are a part of the package. I guarantee no matter what a collector says, it’s never JUST about the label!

Vic and wendies collection is expansive if not impressive, it displays their passion for something they enjoy. both are great people I love them. as long as we are on impressive collections we may as well throw MSK into this. another passionate collector that will go to the ends of the earth for a signature on a sauce he is also one helluva guy

Mrs.Ryan on 8/12/2006 at 2:10 pm said:

Vic and wendies collection is expansive if not impressive, it displays their passion for something they enjoy. both are great people I love them. as long as we are on impressive collections we may as well throw MSK into this. another passionate collector that will go to the ends of the earth for a signature on a sauce he is also one helluva guy

Have not seen his yet, is it posted here on the blog?

thebigshow on 8/12/2006 at 2:16 pm said:

Have not seen his yet, is it posted here on the blog?

Yes it is, you can also see a few shots of it on Vic and Wndy’s site. Find their name in the list of top commentors and click on it to go there

DK on 8/12/2006 at 2:07 pm said:

Well, the review seems to have more emphasis on the sauce than the label, only 5 lines dedicated to it’s description. But What a label, and the description was spot on. I feel the rest of the review will be spot on as well. I will absolutely buy this sauce to consume, maybe even one to display alongside my Heavy metal CD collection as well.

truth, your comments are always welcome here, but it seems you are the only one hung up on labels, so just let it go. This horse has beaten to death. Labels are a part of the package. I guarantee no matter what a collector says, it’s never JUST about the label!

Good to see another metal head among us chiliheads!!

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/12/2006 at 2:19 pm said:

Yes it is, you can also see a few shots of it on Vic and Wndy’s site. Find their name in the list of top commentors and click on it to go there

Ryan, I’ve seen Vic/Wendy’s not MSK’s. Is his on their site? Thanx

Anthony on 8/12/2006 at 2:20 pm said:

Good to see another metal head among us chiliheads!!

Are you metsal heads going to Duff’s tonite then? I know you can’t make it DK, but what about you Anthony?

I can go to Duff’s in Toronto! If I could I would Big Show!

Anthony on 8/12/2006 at 2:28 pm said:

I can go to Duff’s in Toronto! If I could I would Big Show!

well you show up there and look for us…lol

yeah i know, maybe someday Creator will have a defcon day up there, and we’ll be the ones wishing we were there. i have some wings for you then.

thebigshow on 8/12/2006 at 2:22 pm said:

Ryan, I’ve seen Vic/Wendy’s not MSK’s. Is his on their site? Thanx

hey bigshow, click on MSK in the commenters list to the left. It’ll take you the KING’S site…

Tracy C on 8/12/2006 at 2:36 pm said:

hey bigshow, click on MSK in the commenters list to the left. It’ll take you the KING’S site…

thanx, yeah I was just lookin at it. looks good.

thebigshow on 8/12/2006 at 2:39 pm said:

thanx, yeah I was just lookin at it. looks good.

Sorry I didn’t catch your comment…working and had a damn insulin reaction. This is what happens when I don’t get to sleep in on a Saturday

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/12/2006 at 2:56 pm said:

Sorry I didn’t catch your comment…working and had a damn insulin reaction. This is what happens when I don’t get to sleep in on a Saturday

sorry i thought you meant vic’s id on the commentors list, i found msk’s and went to his site now, and was just checking it out. very cool. some nice bottles there. didnt look at them all, but what i did see.

thebigshow on 8/12/2006 at 2:58 pm said:

sorry i thought you meant vic’s id on the commentors list, i found msk’s and went to his site now, and was just checking it out. very cool. some nice bottles there. didnt look at them all, but what i did see.

I thought you were talking about Vic and Wendy, so that’s why I misdirected you…my fault, I’m just a tard today

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/12/2006 at 3:13 pm said:

I thought you were talking about Vic and Wendy, so that’s why I misdirected you…my fault, I’m just a tard today

no problem Ryan. it’s Saturday! almost time to get ready to head to BROOKLYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anthony on 8/12/2006 at 2:20 pm said:

Good to see another metal head among us chiliheads!!

Me three.

Off to Brooklyn….have fun everyone, Huv, running a little later than expected. see you there.

thebigshow on 8/12/2006 at 2:05 pm said:

Thanx Mrs R. I agree, I left out the bottle. A kewl shaped bottle is always nice to display too. I suppose there are collectors out there, that would like to just display everything they can get their hands on too. To me, that’s just too much to try and track down, but definately good for them. I’m sure we’ve all seen Vic and Wendy’s collection,they must have like 1 of everuthing in there, no matter what it is.

Well bigshow, we want at least one of everything eventually! Though to be perfectly honest with you, we buy two and sometimes even three of alot of sauces. We don’t do it that much when purchasing online, but from brick n’ mortars, grocerers, etc.

Quantity has aslways been my primart focus, but with so many high caliber quality sauces our eyes have been opened too- we are attempting to find that happy medium between the best of both worlds, if that makes sense.

Hey hats off to you on both the review and for your musical taste! Rock on dude!

Thanks for the postive comments.

I was listening to “War Pigs” at the time so thats what inspired the BS comparison.

clint on 8/12/2006 at 7:40 pm said:

Thanks for the postive comments.

I was listening to “War Pigs” at the time so thats what inspired the BS comparison.

Well, I’ve been listening to Sabbath and Ozzy all day since I read the review. That was a really great line, thanks again Clint.

the truth on 8/12/2006 at 1:26 pm said:

so i guess most people are label collecting not hot sauce collectors ummmm interesting

Preaching to the choir here, truth! However, at first impression there is nothing else to go *other* than the label. Just like when the kid shows up to take your daughter out, if he’s wearing a dog collar, spikes, tatts, and hasn’t bathed in a week, you’re not going to have the same impression of him if he shows up in a tux Until you get to know them, all you have to go on is visuals! Simple to assume, though NOT guaranteed, that a professional label means a professional sauce.

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/12/2006 at 8:31 pm said:

Preaching to the choir here, truth! However, at first impression there is nothing else to go *other* than the label. Just like when the kid shows up to take your daughter out, if he’s wearing a dog collar, spikes, tatts, and hasn’t bathed in a week, you’re not going to have the same impression of him if he shows up in a tux Until you get to know them, all you have to go on is visuals! Simple to assume, though NOT guaranteed, that a professional label means a professional sauce.

But Jim, it’s only been four days since I showered last……

clint on 8/12/2006 at 7:40 pm said:

Thanks for the postive comments.

I was listening to “War Pigs” at the time so thats what inspired the BS comparison.

Look at clint posting with they grey background again

chrisk on 8/12/2006 at 8:53 pm said:

Look at clint posting with they grey background again

I saw that earlier, I’ve been waiting to see when Ryan catches it!

Ryan didn’t catch it before, I did (with some help)and I caught it this time too. I no longer believe clint exists, I believe Nick is schizophrenic and should seek immediate psychiatriac attention for his “disorder”

Mrs.Ryan on 8/12/2006 at 9:30 pm said:

Ryan didn’t catch it before, I did (with some help)and I caught it this time too. I no longer believe clint exists, I believe Nick is schizophrenic and should seek immediate psychiatriac attention for his “disorder”

Haha! Sorry I didn’t give you the credit Mrs. R! I wonder if there is any “truth” to this? ?

I believe there might be some “truth” to this, I wonder how many other personalities there are in Nicks head……

Mrs.Ryan on 8/12/2006 at 9:47 pm said:

I believe there might be some “truth” to this, I wonder how many other personalities there are in Nicks head……

I heard he has many friends in there……

I wonder how huv and bigshow are doing at Duff’s.

DK on 8/12/2006 at 10:06 pm said:

I wonder how huv and bigshow are doing at Duff’s.

I’m home, bigshow is still there. Mrs Huvason came and wanted to leave early….. was definitely fun though. Creator surprises as usual - DEFCON 0.4 wings (thta’s right POINT FOUR). Some Duffs patrons tried them and were in serious pain. bigshow and I ate them OK. Seems if you eat them like humans (slowly) they aren’t bad. DO NOT GET ME WRONG - they are hot. Nice building heat. Just dont eat them 10 in a minute!

Definitely wish I could have stayed - things were JUST starting to get busy when I left. But the Mrs Wasn’t feeling well (remember what we discuss a few monthes ago Mrs R?)

Ok this isnt the grey background right?

For some reason i had nick’s email saved into the box where i was supposed to put my email.

Why?

I do not know. It doesnt come up grey when i view the page.

However, i DID review Devil’s Own so maybe the devil did it.

The mistake is rectified.

well that was neet!

ok clint I believe you, and why do i believe you? because we just did an experiment and figured out that if we use nicks email it does turn grey on our screen, HOWEVER in order for us to see it nick or jr would have had to approve it sooooooo what;s really going on?

Hahaha, i have no idea.

Maybe its because im a reviewer.

Vic on 8/12/2006 at 7:00 pm said:

Well bigshow, we want at least one of everything eventually! Though to be perfectly honest with you, we buy two and sometimes even three of alot of sauces. We don’t do it that much when purchasing online, but from brick n’ mortars, grocerers, etc.

Quantity has aslways been my primart focus, but with so many high caliber quality sauces our eyes have been opened too- we are attempting to find that happy medium between the best of both worlds, if that makes sense.

yeah that makes sense. my prime focus is the reserves, and specialty bottles, more high end, but i do collect others too, especially the hotttt ones. but whenever i see something i think is cool, i pick it up.

BROOKLYN is over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Time to Sleep!

Yet another great Defcon Day. Huv, sorry to see you leave early. Duff’s, ummm without words. Very cool, unique place, definately fun, and Duff is a great guy too.

btw…..we’re up to Defcon .4 … ouch.

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/12/2006 at 8:31 pm said:

Preaching to the choir here, truth! However, at first impression there is nothing else to go *other* than the label. Just like when the kid shows up to take your daughter out, if he’s wearing a dog collar, spikes, tatts, and hasn’t bathed in a week, you’re not going to have the same impression of him if he shows up in a tux Until you get to know them, all you have to go on is visuals! Simple to assume, though NOT guaranteed, that a professional label means a professional sauce.

Nice comparison Jim, so true. hope that achillies is ready to go.

DK on 8/12/2006 at 10:06 pm said:

I wonder how huv and bigshow are doing at Duff’s.

.4 wings and some ummmmmm interesting peeple to say the least

and of course the Creator being is normal psychotic self. lol

huvason on 8/12/2006 at 11:56 pm said:

I’m home, bigshow is still there. Mrs Huvason came and wanted to leave early….. was definitely fun though. Creator surprises as usual - DEFCON 0.4 wings (thta’s right POINT FOUR). Some Duffs patrons tried them and were in serious pain. bigshow and I ate them OK. Seems if you eat them like humans (slowly) they aren’t bad. DO NOT GET ME WRONG - they are hot. Nice building heat. Just dont eat them 10 in a minute!

Definitely wish I could have stayed - things were JUST starting to get busy when I left. But the Mrs Wasn’t feeling well (remember what we discuss a few monthes ago Mrs R?)

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 5:17 am said:

.4 wings and some ummmmmm interesting peeple to say the least

and of course the Creator being is normal psychotic self. lol

Glad to see you guys survived! Defcon .4, No wing with straight zero? Looks like Creator is turning this into a test market, maybe a new level of Defcon on the market soon? If there was significant heat above the Deathmatch sauce, there’s no way I’m touching the .4, not on wings anyway. The .5 was right at or past my pain threshold.

Anybody get any pics? Can’t wait to hear more about this event. Thanks for the updates.

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 5:17 am said:

.4 wings and some ummmmmm interesting peeple to say the least

and of course the Creator being is normal psychotic self. lol

How was your trip home? Good I hope - flew home, no problems.

It was definitelty a blast and I wish I could have hung out longer

I’m sure if I stayed I would have done a zero wing

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 5:17 am said:

.4 wings and some ummmmmm interesting peeple to say the least

and of course the Creator being is normal psychotic self. lol

I have to ask…

Is there a noticeable difference between .4 and .5?

chrisk on 8/13/2006 at 10:17 am said:

I have to ask…

Is there a noticeable difference between .4 and .5?

I really do not think so. Its hard to tell since I could eat them together. Also the .5 wings seemd much hotter since you had to eat so many so fast. The .4 were hot as well but not painful cuz you would eat and just wait, then eat another. I’m sure is I ate 10 .4 wings in a minute I could give a better answer (or if the creator had .5 there)

Does that make any sense?

DK on 8/13/2006 at 8:10 am said:

Glad to see you guys survived! Defcon .4, No wing with straight zero? Looks like Creator is turning this into a test market, maybe a new level of Defcon on the market soon? If there was significant heat above the Deathmatch sauce, there’s no way I’m touching the .4, not on wings anyway. The .5 was right at or past my pain threshold.

Anybody get any pics? Can’t wait to hear more about this event. Thanks for the updates.

Hi DK, check out our website, got some pics posted. I think I’m going back to bed.

Huv and Big Show, it’s was great seeing you guys. It was also nice seeing Jimmy serve the 2 NYPD cops in the cruiser the .4 wings.

DK on 8/12/2006 at 1:43 pm said:

Who’s collecting? I’m gonna buy this sauce, open it, slather it on some fast food burritos, and crank up Paranoid on the Stereo! This stuff will probably be gone before the end of the CD! It’s all about everything man, the label, the sauce, the food, the music! Rock on truth!

as am I, i open all my bottles.

huvason on 8/13/2006 at 9:43 am said:

How was your trip home? Good I hope - flew home, no problems.

It was definitelty a blast and I wish I could have hung out longer

I’m sure if I stayed I would have done a zero wing

Flew home no traffic at all… yeah, i know if you stayed we both would have been doing a zero wing! It really didn’t pick up there until like 12:30, wings were flying…

huvason on 8/13/2006 at 10:30 am said:

I really do not think so. Its hard to tell since I could eat them together. Also the .5 wings seemd much hotter since you had to eat so many so fast. The .4 were hot as well but not painful cuz you would eat and just wait, then eat another. I’m sure is I ate 10 .4 wings in a minute I could give a better answer (or if the creator had .5 there)

Does that make any sense?

huvason on 8/13/2006 at 10:30 am said:

I really do not think so. Its hard to tell since I could eat them together. Also the .5 wings seemd much hotter since you had to eat so many so fast. The .4 were hot as well but not painful cuz you would eat and just wait, then eat another. I’m sure is I ate 10 .4 wings in a minute I could give a better answer (or if the creator had .5 there)

Does that make any sense?

If you didn’t follow that, the .4 didn’t seem as hot as the .5, but we think that is only cause we ate one at a time slowly. Not trying to shove multiples down as quick as you can. But yes, still very hot! of course to some rookies there, they were beyond hot, and needed sugar after to get rid of the bite!

Need to thank Creator and mrs Creator for another great Defcon Day, and big Jimmy Duff, for his hospitality too.

DEFCON Creator on 8/13/2006 at 12:19 pm said:

Hi DK, check out our website, got some pics posted. I think I’m going back to bed.

Huv and Big Show, it’s was great seeing you guys. It was also nice seeing Jimmy serve the 2 NYPD cops in the cruiser the .4 wings.

Creator, just wish I was there to see them eat those .4! Would have been even funnier if he snuck them mixed in with the milds! LOL

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 1:13 pm said:

Creator, just wish I was there to see them eat those .4! Would have been even funnier if he snuck them mixed in with the milds! LOL

You were there when he served them up. I do kinda wish he mixed the ’special’ wings in with the rest, but I guess he wants to stay friends with them. I thought it was funny as Hell when Jimmy said, “Damn, we usually saw a cop once a week around here, but ever since they found the body at the end of the street by the waterfront they come around all the time.” LOL!

DEFCON Creator on 8/13/2006 at 5:02 pm said:

You were there when he served them up. I do kinda wish he mixed the ’special’ wings in with the rest, but I guess he wants to stay friends with them. I thought it was funny as Hell when Jimmy said, “Damn, we usually saw a cop once a week around here, but ever since they found the body at the end of the street by the waterfront they come around all the time.” LOL!

That didn’t have anything to do with that photo on your site did it? The one on the far right. Looks kinda suspicious to me!

DK on 8/13/2006 at 5:13 pm said:

That didn’t have anything to do with that photo on your site did it? The one on the far right. Looks kinda suspicious to me!

LOL! Actually, that was about 4:30am, we were getting ready to pack up, when Jimmy decided a nice ‘ghetto’ shot was in order. Notice his fine bed linens, constructed of only the finest in cardboard.

DK on 8/13/2006 at 5:13 pm said:

That didn’t have anything to do with that photo on your site did it? The one on the far right. Looks kinda suspicious to me!

You know, i’m actually worried now. When did they find that body? With Leroy missing and all…….. you don’t think he showed up for Defcon Day a little early do you?

DEFCON Creator on 8/13/2006 at 5:02 pm said:

You were there when he served them up. I do kinda wish he mixed the ’special’ wings in with the rest, but I guess he wants to stay friends with them. I thought it was funny as Hell when Jimmy said, “Damn, we usually saw a cop once a week around here, but ever since they found the body at the end of the street by the waterfront they come around all the time.” LOL!

LOL, yeah i suppose stayin on their good side is a good thing! as for the body, yeah i was there, and that really doesnt surprise me, prime location for that. lol

DEFCON Creator on 8/13/2006 at 5:45 pm said:

LOL! Actually, that was about 4:30am, we were getting ready to pack up, when Jimmy decided a nice ‘ghetto’ shot was in order. Notice his fine bed linens, constructed of only the finest in cardboard.

awww, i missed that part!

DK on 8/13/2006 at 6:08 pm said:

You know, i’m actually worried now. When did they find that body? With Leroy missing and all…….. you don’t think he showed up for Defcon Day a little early do you?

nah, it wasn’t Leroy, there were no dogs around, and the evil kitten’s been missing for a while.

We are honored to be in both Vic and Wendy’s, AND MSK’s collections.
Later gang, see ya at ZF

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 6:41 pm said:

awww, i missed that part!

nah, it wasn’t Leroy, there were no dogs around, and the evil kitten’s been missing for a while.

The “Evil Kitty” was present Bigshow, he was hiding amongst the chemical barrels at the end of the street.

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 6:39 pm said:

LOL, yeah i suppose stayin on their good side is a good thing! as for the body, yeah i was there, and that really doesnt surprise me, prime location for that. lol

Yeah, the location was supreme…But I couldn’t get away from the fryers due to the hungry public, there were a lot of photo ops that I missed. I know Henry & Colleen took a bunch, I’m waiting for those.

DEFCON Creator on 8/14/2006 at 8:29 am said:

The “Evil Kitty” was present Bigshow, he was hiding amongst the chemical barrels at the end of the street.

Yeah, the location was supreme…But I couldn’t get away from the fryers due to the hungry public, there were a lot of photo ops that I missed. I know Henry & Colleen took a bunch, I’m waiting for those.

Creator - great gig Saturday. Just wish I could have hung out longer. Thanx again!

huvason on 8/14/2006 at 8:35 am said:

Creator - great gig Saturday. Just wish I could have hung out longer. Thanx again!

Not a problem man, I appreciate you showing up, and understand you guys had to go. The place really didn’t start jumping until after 1am. I just hope you liked you little ‘present”.

DEFCON Creator on 8/14/2006 at 8:41 am said:

Not a problem man, I appreciate you showing up, and understand you guys had to go. The place really didn’t start jumping until after 1am. I just hope you liked you little ‘present”.

Definitely liked, and appreciated it. It is already on the DEFCON shelf of doom (they were evicted from the pink house - seems my daughter wanted it back!)