LMAO @ pick your gimmick!!!! Anthony your review as usual is wonderful thank you.

Mrs.Ryan on 8/13/2006 at 11:47 am said:

LMAO @ pick your gimmick!!!! Anthony your review as usual is wonderful thank you.

DOH! you said the “G” word…

Tracy C on 8/13/2006 at 12:01 pm said:

DOH! you said the “G” word…

Ya – time to grab the stick and starting beating the dead horse again. You know I was given a pile of gimmick sauce to review. For followers of the HSB over the years they know that it isn’t an HSB focus. Rather we thought there is some place for discussion about these sauces. After all this is the place for all hot food related products good and bad.

I actually like this label. Looks like a good sauce to carry into your local greasy spoon. Especially good to set on the table when you have that pesky waitress that checks on you after, whoops, “during” every bite. The label, along with the look on your face from eating the chili would scare anybody off! And what’s a trip to the greasy spoon without a good watery vinegar sauce. Besides, it’s got more kick than Tabasco, which is what’s gonna be on the table anyway.

DK on 8/13/2006 at 3:56 pm said:

I actually like this label. Looks like a good sauce to carry into your local greasy spoon. Especially good to set on the table when you have that pesky waitress that checks on you after, whoops, “during” every bite. The label, along with the look on your face from eating the chili would scare anybody off! And what’s a trip to the greasy spoon without a good watery vinegar sauce. Besides, it’s got more kick than Tabasco, which is what’s gonna be on the table anyway.

dk, very true! btw…does any hot sauce conniseur (sp?) like or even use tabasco? just curious?

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 3:58 pm said:

dk, very true! btw…does any hot sauce conniseur (sp?) like or even use tabasco? just curious?

Well, ………. No comment

lol…..i think i know how to take that “no comment” lol i just laugh when i ask for hot sauce and they bring me tabasco, so i’ve learned to ask for buffalo sauce, and you at least get frank’s then (for what that’s worth).

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 4:31 pm said:

lol…..i think i know how to take that “no comment” lol i just laugh when i ask for hot sauce and they bring me tabasco, so i’ve learned to ask for buffalo sauce, and you at least get frank’s then (for what that’s worth).

Confession of a Hot Sauce Freak

Forgive me for I have sinned:

I’ll be honest, I like Tabasco, but it just doesn’t have the heat I’m looking for most of the time. I grew up with Tabasco on the dinner table. If there was a bottle of Tabasco, Texas Pete, Frank’s, Crystal, Cholula, etc. side by side on the same table, I would pick up the Tabasco first. Just what I’m used to. But, just so ya know, I’m a vinegar nut. I can handle my vinegar better than my heat. So I never dismiss a sauce because of the vinegar content. But the more vinegar, the less choice of foods to use it with. Of course the greasy spoon is the best place for a vinegar sauce, if there is less than half a bottle of sauce on the table, I always make the waitress bring me another bottle. Everything on the plate is bright red in color by the time I’m done.

Whew, and I’m not even Catholic!

Ha, i believe we can all forgive you.

Personally the taste of Tabasco to me is pure vinegar. And I loved spicy stuff when I first started out but was stuck with Tabasco. I was was wondering (and this is a question for everyone): Does your ability to handle more hot sauce make you weak against sour stuff? I cant stand sour but I can douse my food with Blair’s but if you make me eat a lemon my mouth would pucker up instantle at the sight of it.

When i started getting seriously into hot sauce and my friends did too Daniel discovered the greatest “cheap table” sauce ever: El Yucateco. It is pretty prevalent here since (West Coast) because it’s made in Mexico. You can get it in any Carneceria.

I actually like Tabasco way better than Frank’s, and I really don’t like Tabasco much. I think Frank’s is about the worst general hot sauce out there. Poor flavor, and zero heat. I actually avoid wings in most joints becuase they use Frank’s with butter as their base.

At least Tabasco has a little bit of heat to it. And the fermented, vinegary flavor, on some food, is okay. I think water has more heat thank Frank’s.

DK on 8/13/2006 at 5:10 pm said:

Confession of a Hot Sauce Freak

Forgive me for I have sinned:

I’ll be honest, I like Tabasco, but it just doesn’t have the heat I’m looking for most of the time. I grew up with Tabasco on the dinner table. If there was a bottle of Tabasco, Texas Pete, Frank’s, Crystal, Cholula, etc. side by side on the same table, I would pick up the Tabasco first. Just what I’m used to. But, just so ya know, I’m a vinegar nut. I can handle my vinegar better than my heat. So I never dismiss a sauce because of the vinegar content. But the more vinegar, the less choice of foods to use it with. Of course the greasy spoon is the best place for a vinegar sauce, if there is less than half a bottle of sauce on the table, I always make the waitress bring me another bottle. Everything on the plate is bright red in color by the time I’m done.

Whew, and I’m not even Catholic!

clint on 8/13/2006 at 5:37 pm said:

Ha, i believe we can all forgive you.

Personally the taste of Tabasco to me is pure vinegar. And I loved spicy stuff when I first started out but was stuck with Tabasco. I was was wondering (and this is a question for everyone): Does your ability to handle more hot sauce make you weak against sour stuff? I cant stand sour but I can douse my food with Blair’s but if you make me eat a lemon my mouth would pucker up instantle at the sight of it.

When i started getting seriously into hot sauce and my friends did too Daniel discovered the greatest “cheap table” sauce ever: El Yucateco. It is pretty prevalent here since (West Coast) because it’s made in Mexico. You can get it in any Carneceria.

Have to agree with Clint, not a fan of the vinegar, nor tabasco. give me heat and flavor, leave the vinegar at the greasy the spoon.

DK on 8/13/2006 at 5:10 pm said:

Confession of a Hot Sauce Freak

Forgive me for I have sinned:

I’ll be honest, I like Tabasco, but it just doesn’t have the heat I’m looking for most of the time. I grew up with Tabasco on the dinner table. If there was a bottle of Tabasco, Texas Pete, Frank’s, Crystal, Cholula, etc. side by side on the same table, I would pick up the Tabasco first. Just what I’m used to. But, just so ya know, I’m a vinegar nut. I can handle my vinegar better than my heat. So I never dismiss a sauce because of the vinegar content. But the more vinegar, the less choice of foods to use it with. Of course the greasy spoon is the best place for a vinegar sauce, if there is less than half a bottle of sauce on the table, I always make the waitress bring me another bottle. Everything on the plate is bright red in color by the time I’m done.

Whew, and I’m not even Catholic!

As Anthony & Clinton can attest to the great flavors of my sauces, I myself use Tabasco, Cholua and Texas Petes. I was weaned on Tabasco on my biscuits and gravy and still love it, as a matter of fact I had it on my gravy over hash browns. Hashbrowns w/ onions, tomatoes, bacon, green peppers and mushrooms along with Steak and Eggs.
Cholua is good on pizza in a pinch and at breakfeat, while Texas Petes is great on Philly Cheese Steaks.
There are very few sauces that are great with every food, therefore the need to use what works best for your tastebuds!!
My opinion, I love spice and if it works for something I don’t care who makes it. I’m pleasing my culinary desires not anyone elses.

Scotty B

AMEN SCOTTY B!!!!!!!!! I don’t care what everyone else likes, I am not going to eat it if I don’t like it. Not everyone will agree on what their faves are or the reasons they like them, if they taste good TO ME I’ll eat them

Mrs.Ryan on 8/13/2006 at 9:07 pm said:

AMEN SCOTTY B!!!!!!!!! I don’t care what everyone else likes, I am not going to eat it if I don’t like it. Not everyone will agree on what their faves are or the reasons they like them, if they taste good TO ME I’ll eat them

i agree, everyone’s tastes are different. definately gettin my answer. i was just never a fan of the tabasco taste, and wanted to find out what others thought. i will say their habanero, is considerably better than the regular.

Hey Hey everyone! How are you all tonight.

Vic on 8/13/2006 at 9:34 pm said:

Hey Hey everyone! How are you all tonight.

Hey Vic, how goes it?

Hello Vic!

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 9:58 pm said:

Hey Vic, how goes it?

DK on 8/13/2006 at 10:00 pm said:

Hello Vic!

Hey, doing well, had crappy weather here in FL all day, sat around the house doing housework and eatin’ junk food- good times!

Vic on 8/13/2006 at 10:02 pm said:

Hey, doing well, had crappy weather here in FL all day, sat around the house doing housework and eatin’ junk food- good times!

lol, you should have been up here for defcon day last nite. in the low 70s, alot of free wings with defcon sauce. and plenty of beer flowing.

what’s up dk

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 10:05 pm said:

lol, you should have been up here for defcon day last nite. in the low 70s, alot of free wings with defcon sauce. and plenty of beer flowing.

what’s up dk

Unfortunately, some of us had to leave early

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 10:05 pm said:

lol, you should have been up here for defcon day last nite. in the low 70s, alot of free wings with defcon sauce. and plenty of beer flowing.

what’s up dk

Man, I would have loved to have been there!

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 10:05 pm said:

lol, you should have been up here for defcon day last nite. in the low 70s, alot of free wings with defcon sauce. and plenty of beer flowing.

what’s up dk

Hey, I,m back. Power went out for a few. Guess it’s the cool weather we’re having.

huvason on 8/13/2006 at 10:11 pm said:

Unfortunately, some of us had to leave early

Its all good Huv, besides you made it, and got a special treat too

Vic on 8/13/2006 at 10:18 pm said:

Man, I would have loved to have been there!

I know it’s tough, living in florida, are you going to ZF? This collector badge thing is gonna be really nice for everyone.

DK on 8/13/2006 at 10:45 pm said:

Hey, I,m back. Power went out for a few. Guess it’s the cool weather we’re having.

Welcome back.

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 11:00 pm said:

I know it’s tough, living in florida, are you going to ZF? This collector badge thing is gonna be really nice for everyone.

Yes we are, I actually sent my e-mail to Pam tonight about it.

Scotty B’s Hot Sauces on 8/13/2006 at 8:58 pm said:

As Anthony & Clinton can attest to the great flavors of my sauces, I myself use Tabasco, Cholua and Texas Petes. I was weaned on Tabasco on my biscuits and gravy and still love it, as a matter of fact I had it on my gravy over hash browns. Hashbrowns w/ onions, tomatoes, bacon, green peppers and mushrooms along with Steak and Eggs.
Cholua is good on pizza in a pinch and at breakfeat, while Texas Petes is great on Philly Cheese Steaks.
There are very few sauces that are great with every food, therefore the need to use what works best for your tastebuds!!
My opinion, I love spice and if it works for something I don’t care who makes it. I’m pleasing my culinary desires not anyone elses.

Scotty B

Well said Scotty. Many of us are here because of Tabasco whether we admit it or not. I personally started from chili flakes on pasta as a child. Even though no one in my family has the chili-bite I guess having a father as a Chef and making sure all ingredients and condiments were available was a definate asset. We all the got the bite from somewhere. I think you just gave me a great idea for one of my next articles!

Vic on 8/13/2006 at 11:03 pm said:

Yes we are, I actually sent my e-mail to Pam tonight about it.

I’m still waiting on confirmation about my registration, but I’ll be there. Reservations already made!

Vic on 8/13/2006 at 11:03 pm said:

Yes we are, I actually sent my e-mail to Pam tonight about it.

WOOOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!!!! yay Vic and Wendy I am so excited your going

Tabasco is 7% pepper solids…
Pepper infused vinegar + salt, I still eat it because that’s what most places carry as hot sauce. It is a building block to what we like today. It has been around longer than most of us!

i agree Cajohn and no gimmicks ahhh a gimmickless sauce…and has been around a long long time

Tabasco has a logo. That’s a gimmick. Their old style cologne bottle. That’s a gimmick. Need I go on?

someday the truth will be known and everyone will realize everything and everybody has a gimmick

Gimmicks are good

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 10:49 am said:

someday the truth will be known and everyone will realize everything and everybody has a gimmick

Gimmicks are good

No pun intended…

tabasco???? and the gimmicks is? my point guys is this if you have a great product you dont need a gimmick. your product will speak for itself.these sauces that people are putting out are 100 % gimmick in hopes of just selling a few bottles to the people they know.I can see by the comments that you guys leave that you do buy bottles of sauce cause you like the lables only,,or they are nice to you ,.not cause the sauce is good.and that is your god given right Soooo happy collecting..oh an by the way the truth will come out sooon very soon hope to see you guys at my booth in texas looking foward to meeting all of you inperson

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:14 am said:

tabasco???? and the gimmicks is? my point guys is this if you have a great product you dont need a gimmick. your product will speak for itself.these sauces that people are putting out are 100 % gimmick in hopes of just selling a few bottles to the people they know.I can see by the comments that you guys leave that you do buy bottles of sauce cause you like the lables only,,or they are nice to you ,.not cause the sauce is good.and that is your god given right Soooo happy collecting..oh an by the way the truth will come out sooon very soon hope to see you guys at my booth in texas looking foward to meeting all of you inperson

Hmmmm, are ya gonna tell what booth it is BEFORE it starts? I think a good name and label for a hot sauce would be (imagine this) Just the words “Hot Sauce” on a black and white label. Has that been done yet? Might be too much of a gimmick though. Just playinng with ya “the truth”.

good idea scotty too hottie…..but lets see maybe i will come up with something…maybe the first one to find the truth sticker will win free product

tell me ryan with all your ideas do you guys have a product your selling

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:41 am said:

tell me ryan with all your ideas do you guys have a product your selling

This ought to be good. Ryan, well he ummm….nah, I’ll let Ryan tell ya!

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:14 am said:

tabasco???? and the gimmicks is? my point guys is this if you have a great product you dont need a gimmick. your product will speak for itself.these sauces that people are putting out are 100 % gimmick in hopes of just selling a few bottles to the people they know.I can see by the comments that you guys leave that you do buy bottles of sauce cause you like the lables only,,or they are nice to you ,.not cause the sauce is good.and that is your god given right Soooo happy collecting..oh an by the way the truth will come out sooon very soon hope to see you guys at my booth in texas looking foward to meeting all of you inperson

I agree that quality speaks for itself, but a gimmick in its most pure sense is nothing more than marketing. ALL high quality products (whether hot sauce, cars, computers, whatever) do marketing of one sort or another. There is nothing wrong with a gimmick, so long as it is not deceptive and hopefully has something to do with the product.

A gimmick is just a way of attracting attention in a crowded, competitive market. Gimmicks/marketing are great for generating initial buzz; customer satisfaction creates repeat purchasing.

DK on 8/14/2006 at 11:46 am said:

This ought to be good. Ryan, well he ummm….nah, I’ll let Ryan tell ya!

did you take that to as an attack dk? like i said he has alot of good ideas like to know more.. so dk relax

locolunabrian on 8/14/2006 at 12:02 pm said:

I agree that quality speaks for itself, but a gimmick in its most pure sense is nothing more than marketing. ALL high quality products (whether hot sauce, cars, computers, whatever) do marketing of one sort or another. There is nothing wrong with a gimmick, so long as it is not deceptive and hopefully has something to do with the product.

A gimmick is just a way of attracting attention in a crowded, competitive market. Gimmicks/marketing are great for generating initial buzz; customer satisfaction creates repeat purchasing.

Amen…

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:41 am said:

tell me ryan with all your ideas do you guys have a product your selling

Don’t worry, I didn’t take that as an attack. Yes, there is a product soon to hit the shelves. Its my wife’s sauce, I designed the label for the sauce, and the logo for the company that will be marketing it. The HSU bottles (seen here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&item=160018675556&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 ) was a collaborative effort between me, Tracy C., Chris K, and Eman. Personally I’m not into the selling of sauces, as I have no time for it, and don’t want to jump through the hoops of getting it out there. I have an offer to co-brand a sauce, but haven’t yet decided whether or not I want to do it. We’ll see I guess. I do understand your stance on tabasclo though. Its a pretty basic bottle.

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 12:02 pm said:

did you take that to as an attack dk? like i said he has alot of good ideas like to know more.. so dk relax

Oh, I’m relaxed, always relaxed on the HSB. Didn’t take your comment as an attack. It’s all good. I’m one the easiest going people on here. I’m not busting your chops, I just about spit my coffee all over my monitor when I read your question was all. You’ll see what I meant when Ryan answers ya.

Got a question for you truth. You & I are on the same page about a lot of stuff, so please answer me this: you are shown a shelf with six bottles of hot sauce. Without opening them, how do you pick which one you want to try first?

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 2:04 pm said:

Got a question for you truth. You & I are on the same page about a lot of stuff, so please answer me this: you are shown a shelf with six bottles of hot sauce. Without opening them, how do you pick which one you want to try first?

Blindfolded?

CaJohn on 8/14/2006 at 1:11 am said:

Tabasco is 7% pepper solids…
Pepper infused vinegar + salt, I still eat it because that’s what most places carry as hot sauce. It is a building block to what we like today. It has been around longer than most of us!

CaJohn I agree, i still use it if there’s nothing else, but it is definately a last resort for me.

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 10:47 am said:

Tabasco has a logo. That’s a gimmick. Their old style cologne bottle. That’s a gimmick. Need I go on?

No need Ryan, most of us get it. They’re current gimmick is the fact they’ve been around so long and have an established name.

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:14 am said:

tabasco???? and the gimmicks is? my point guys is this if you have a great product you dont need a gimmick. your product will speak for itself.these sauces that people are putting out are 100 % gimmick in hopes of just selling a few bottles to the people they know.I can see by the comments that you guys leave that you do buy bottles of sauce cause you like the lables only,,or they are nice to you ,.not cause the sauce is good.and that is your god given right Soooo happy collecting..oh an by the way the truth will come out sooon very soon hope to see you guys at my booth in texas looking foward to meeting all of you inperson

Truth, I agree that a good sauce will sell itself, but how do you get that first sell without a gimmick? How do you get someone to try the sauce so they know it is good? You could give away samples or even bottles, but isn;t that a gimmic in itself? And I also agree alot of sauces out there only sell the once because of the gimmick. So I think the gimmick works both ways, some to help first sell the product and the other is the only reason the product sells. Hope this makes sense.

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:36 am said:

good idea scotty too hottie…..but lets see maybe i will come up with something…maybe the first one to find the truth sticker will win free product

good idea Truth, some clues to find the Truth booth. But is that a gimmick? LOL…just kidding…

locolunabrian on 8/14/2006 at 12:02 pm said:

I agree that quality speaks for itself, but a gimmick in its most pure sense is nothing more than marketing. ALL high quality products (whether hot sauce, cars, computers, whatever) do marketing of one sort or another. There is nothing wrong with a gimmick, so long as it is not deceptive and hopefully has something to do with the product.

A gimmick is just a way of attracting attention in a crowded, competitive market. Gimmicks/marketing are great for generating initial buzz; customer satisfaction creates repeat purchasing.

excellent brian, even just to keep the name in head. “I’m getting a Dell dude!”

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 2:04 pm said:

Got a question for you truth. You & I are on the same page about a lot of stuff, so please answer me this: you are shown a shelf with six bottles of hot sauce. Without opening them, how do you pick which one you want to try first?

Eenie, Meenie, Minie, Moe!!! Hey Moe!! Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck…lol

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:39 pm said:

Truth, I agree that a good sauce will sell itself, but how do you get that first sell without a gimmick? How do you get someone to try the sauce so they know it is good? You could give away samples or even bottles, but isn;t that a gimmic in itself? And I also agree alot of sauces out there only sell the once because of the gimmick. So I think the gimmick works both ways, some to help first sell the product and the other is the only reason the product sells. Hope this makes sense.

big i have spent alot of time and money on test marketing sauces so i think that before you dump alot of money into a label you should know if you have a good product or not as for sample bottles being a gimmick i dont think so cause again i have sent out thousands of 1 oz bottles to get feed back before i went ahead and made up lables.getting peoples thoughts on how good your products is is very important rather than makeing a product and hope it will sell based on a label again i think that taste is way more inportant than a label if you want to put out a great product

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:44 pm said:

excellent brian, even just to keep the name in head. “I’m getting a Dell dude!”

are you saying that you hope the label will bring in repeat buss. or the product will?

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 12:37 pm said:

Amen…

Don’t worry, I didn’t take that as an attack. Yes, there is a product soon to hit the shelves. Its my wife’s sauce, I designed the label for the sauce, and the logo for the company that will be marketing it. The HSU bottles (seen here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&item=160018675556&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 ) was a collaborative effort between me, Tracy C., Chris K, and Eman. Personally I’m not into the selling of sauces, as I have no time for it, and don’t want to jump through the hoops of getting it out there. I have an offer to co-brand a sauce, but haven’t yet decided whether or not I want to do it. We’ll see I guess. I do understand your stance on tabasclo though. Its a pretty basic bottle.

Ryan those are some of the coolest labels that i have seen good work

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:46 pm said:

Eenie, Meenie, Minie, Moe!!! Hey Moe!! Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck…lol

for me i alway look for something simple and try it first just me

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:39 pm said:

Truth, I agree that a good sauce will sell itself, but how do you get that first sell without a gimmick? How do you get someone to try the sauce so they know it is good? You could give away samples or even bottles, but isn;t that a gimmic in itself? And I also agree alot of sauces out there only sell the once because of the gimmick. So I think the gimmick works both ways, some to help first sell the product and the other is the only reason the product sells. Hope this makes sense.

big i have spent alot of time and money on test marketing sauces so i think that before you dump alot of money into a label you should know if you have a good product or not as for sample bottles being a gimmick i dont think so cause again i have sent out thousands of 1 oz bottles to get feed back before i went ahead and made up lables.getting peoples thoughts on how good your products is is very important rather than makeing a product and hope it will sell based on a label again i think that taste is way more inportant than a label if you want to put out a great product

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:44 pm said:

excellent brian, even just to keep the name in head. “I’m getting a Dell dude!”

are you saying that you hope the label will bring in repeat buss. or the product will?

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 12:37 pm said:

Amen…

Don’t worry, I didn’t take that as an attack. Yes, there is a product soon to hit the shelves. Its my wife’s sauce, I designed the label for the sauce, and the logo for the company that will be marketing it. The HSU bottles (seen here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&item=160018675556&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 ) was a collaborative effort between me, Tracy C., Chris K, and Eman. Personally I’m not into the selling of sauces, as I have no time for it, and don’t want to jump through the hoops of getting it out there. I have an offer to co-brand a sauce, but haven’t yet decided whether or not I want to do it. We’ll see I guess. I do understand your stance on tabasclo though. Its a pretty basic bottle.

Ryan those are some of the coolest labels that i have seen good work

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:46 pm said:

Eenie, Meenie, Minie, Moe!!! Hey Moe!! Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck…lol

for me i alway look for something simple and try it first just me

big im up for giving some clues any suggestion how to go about it

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 4:22 pm said:

big i have spent alot of time and money on test marketing sauces so i think that before you dump alot of money into a label you should know if you have a good product or not as for sample bottles being a gimmick i dont think so cause again i have sent out thousands of 1 oz bottles to get feed back before i went ahead and made up lables.getting peoples thoughts on how good your products is is very important rather than makeing a product and hope it will sell based on a label again i think that taste is way more inportant than a label if you want to put out a great product
are you saying that you hope the label will bring in repeat buss. or the product will?

Ryan those are some of the coolest labels that i have seen good work

for me i alway look for something simple and try it first just me

Truth, yes I agree, the product will bring in the repeat business, i’m gonna go back and buy more sauce for the taste and heat, not what the label says. but once you get your product to be the best, how do you get people to try it? don’t you want a label that will catch their eye? or hand out free sample bottles at ZF?

I think we’re all agreeing here really, just differences in definition. to me any marketing is really a form of gimmick, i think (i may be wrong) when you say gimmick, you mean the cartoonish or novelty labels (A$$ in the tub, fire in the hole, etc…).

no, i don’t think the label will bring it repeat business, i think the product will bring in the repeat business. but i do think you can use a catch phrase(gimmick) to keep your name in someones head. i used Dell as an example, there are alot of computer companies out there, but don’t think their catch phrase, works just keep their name in your head? you’re still only going to be a repeat customer of you like their product.

i really do think in general we’re in the same page, just maybe a disagreement on the use of certain words. hope this clarifies more.

and btw…look forward to meeting you and trying your sauces at ZF.

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 4:27 pm said:

big im up for giving some clues any suggestion how to go about it

i have to go to work, but I’ll be back a little later. let me think on that while I work. do you know where you’re booth is located at already? who’s on either side of you? what your aisle # is, stuff like that? is there a place where we can get a map ahead of time too. send me an e-mail, and we can think about this more. the big show 823 “at” yahoo “dot” com

“Ryan those are some of the coolest labels that i have seen good work”

Thanks Truth. Have to give credit to CaJohn for the Houston one. He’s the one that came up with the title and helped me do the fine tuning.

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 11:13 am said:

No pun intended…

I don’t do puns LOL

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:41 am said:

tell me ryan with all your ideas do you guys have a product your selling

asn a matter of fact the answer is yes and IT’S FULL OF FREAKIN GIMMICKS AND I LOVE IT.

have a nice day

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:41 pm said:

good idea Truth, some clues to find the Truth booth. But is that a gimmick? LOL…just kidding…

OMG yes it’s a gimmick. he isn’t above it.

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 7:17 pm said:

OMG yes it’s a gimmick. he isn’t above it.

Here we go…

This has actually been an interesting read. I can respect all of the angles in which it seems people take on marketing a sauce. I personally have more respect for a maker that promotes a great sauce and classy label, verses one that just slaps a vulgar label on some crap sauce. I also think that a sauce manufacturers budget plays a big part in how their product is introduced to the consumer. All companies to some degree give out samples to promote their product. It seems that Truth must have a huge budget in order to give out thousands of samples. And thats really cool if you can do that. Most folks that I know that are start ups, are everyday working blue collar workers that support a family and make huge sacrifices in order to just get out a few cases of samples, and in this case, rely heavily on the initial hook that a well thought out label provides. Everybody likes a FREE sample, but when a consumer has to make a blind decision while a the market, the label will win. Then it’s the sauce that keeps ‘em coming back..

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:14 am said:

tabasco???? and the gimmicks is? my point guys is this if you have a great product you dont need a gimmick. your product will speak for itself.these sauces that people are putting out are 100 % gimmick in hopes of just selling a few bottles to the people they know.I can see by the comments that you guys leave that you do buy bottles of sauce cause you like the lables only,,or they are nice to you ,.not cause the sauce is good.and that is your god given right Soooo happy collecting..oh an by the way the truth will come out sooon very soon hope to see you guys at my booth in texas looking foward to meeting all of you inperson

I am speaking for my self here and noone else. I am having a hard time with the fact that a manufacturer is hiding behind another name and stirring carp, if you can’t stir it under the name your known for then you shouldn’t be stirring it. whoever you happen to be, whether I ever find out or not, I have zero respect for phony bologna carp like this

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 7:34 pm said:

I am speaking for my self here and noone else. I am having a hard time with the fact that a manufacturer is hiding behind another name and stirring carp, if you can’t stir it under the name your known for then you shouldn’t be stirring it. whoever you happen to be, whether I ever find out or not, I have zero respect for phony bologna carp like this

I don’t know- I think it’s a pretty good gimmick If I had the time or inclination it might be a way of expressing a POV a bit more drmatically. Truth doesn’t seem to be the only one with a split personality around here

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 7:45 pm said:

I don’t know- I think it’s a pretty good gimmick If I had the time or inclination it might be a way of expressing a POV a bit more drmatically. Truth doesn’t seem to be the only one with a split personality around here

Hey you leave Myself and I out of this and deal with ME, buddy

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 7:45 pm said:

I don’t know- I think it’s a pretty good gimmick If I had the time or inclination it might be a way of expressing a POV a bit more drmatically. Truth doesn’t seem to be the only one with a split personality around here

Or were you speaking of the Clint/Nick thing? Yeah, that’s pretty sick…

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 7:51 pm said:

Hey you leave Myself and I out of this and deal with ME, buddy

If we could just figure out who the ‘real you’ is

And on another note. $102.50? I didn’t not slave away for hours that I could have spent with my family only to see that two of my works, plus some other sauces that are pretty cool too, go for only $102.50. Pull out those pocket books and donate some money dammit! Its not like any of the money is going to me, its going to charity. If these bottles had “Blair” written on them, you’d be forking over a grand or more! Support Jim and your collection…BID I tell you, BID!!!!!!!!

This message brought to you buy: People that support Jim’s charity dealings and other stuff like that.

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 7:56 pm said:

If we could just figure out who the ‘real you’ is

You’ll find out at ZF

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 7:52 pm said:

Or were you speaking of the Clint/Nick thing? Yeah, that’s pretty sick…

Don’t forget Bret and Leroy!

Truth, my mantra has always been “it’s not what’s on it, it’s what’s in it” but they won’t get to the ‘what’s in it’ part without first getting past (or attracted!) by the ‘what’s on it’. Case in point- my Ralphs’ Righteous is a pretty upstanding habanero sauce. Probably one of the hottest non-extract ones out there. I used to have a home printed label, very simple, very plain, nothing fancy. I was laughed out of Albuquerque the first year I had it (by even the general public!) and that’s despite sampling it so that they knew it was top notch. I endlessly heard ‘great sauce- too bad it doesn’t have a better label’. When that comes from the general public- we won’t even get into what the distributors said – it was time to take heed. A couple of label changes later and voila- same identical sauce and triple (or more) the sales.

I wish it *were* as simple as putting a great sauce in a bottle and it selling itself! No one wishes it more since I don’t have a ‘sales’ personality! Sigh… that just isn’t the way the world works, except for small pockets like here on the blog.

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 7:58 pm said:

You’ll find out at ZF

Lookin’ forward to it…. I think

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 7:45 pm said:

I don’t know- I think it’s a pretty good gimmick If I had the time or inclination it might be a way of expressing a POV a bit more drmatically. Truth doesn’t seem to be the only one with a split personality around here

I only have one personslity, mine, but I can have 2 if you give me yours

DK on 8/14/2006 at 8:02 pm said:

Don’t forget Bret and Leroy!

OR DK AND BUBBA

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 8:08 pm said:

OR DK AND BUBBA

You got me! Bubba’s just an expression of my feminine side!

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 8:07 pm said:

I only have one personslity, mine, but I can have 2 if you give me yours

You’d still only have one- I’m pretty boring in real life Just lucky that I type/write good

DK on 8/14/2006 at 8:13 pm said:

You got me! Bubba’s just an expression of my feminine side!

ROFL!!!

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 8:13 pm said:

You’d still only have one- I’m pretty boring in real life Just lucky that I type/write good

ehhhh, why do i doubt that you are boring in real life?

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 8:24 pm said:

ROFL!!!

ehhhh, why do i doubt that you are boring in real life?

Because you haven’t MET me

Night all!

What many of us are getting to is called PERCEPTION. A good label or good marketing campaign creates the perception of a quality product. For most peoole, a crap label tells them that the product is crap before they even try it. This perception can color the reality of the product experience even when actually used and the consumer no longer has to rely on perception alone. That is why companies invest millions in advertising, market research, packaging and promotion.

So again I say, quality is key and that is what will keep customers coming back, but you’ve got to get them to try it the first time. If you truly believe in the quality of your sauce, why create additional obstacles for your product? In an idealist world, perception should not matter, but in the real world it makes a huge difference for a large segment of the buying public.

locolunabrian on 8/14/2006 at 9:18 pm said:

What many of us are getting to is called PERCEPTION. A good label or good marketing campaign creates the perception of a quality product. For most peoole, a crap label tells them that the product is crap before they even try it. This perception can color the reality of the product experience even when actually used and the consumer no longer has to rely on perception alone. That is why companies invest millions in advertising, market research, packaging and promotion.

So again I say, quality is key and that is what will keep customers coming back, but you’ve got to get them to try it the first time. If you truly believe in the quality of your sauce, why create additional obstacles for your product? In an idealist world, perception should not matter, but in the real world it makes a huge difference for a large segment of the buying public.

well Brian got to “the truth” of things ha ha hahahahaha i crack myself up.

Tracy C on 8/14/2006 at 7:30 pm said:

This has actually been an interesting read. I can respect all of the angles in which it seems people take on marketing a sauce. I personally have more respect for a maker that promotes a great sauce and classy label, verses one that just slaps a vulgar label on some crap sauce. I also think that a sauce manufacturers budget plays a big part in how their product is introduced to the consumer. All companies to some degree give out samples to promote their product. It seems that Truth must have a huge budget in order to give out thousands of samples. And thats really cool if you can do that. Most folks that I know that are start ups, are everyday working blue collar workers that support a family and make huge sacrifices in order to just get out a few cases of samples, and in this case, rely heavily on the initial hook that a well thought out label provides. Everybody likes a FREE sample, but when a consumer has to make a blind decision while a the market, the label will win. Then it’s the sauce that keeps ‘em coming back..

ummm tracy can i just say “DITTO”

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 9:24 pm said:

well Brian got to “the truth” of things ha ha hahahahaha i crack myself up.

We are all amused:)

locolunabrian on 8/14/2006 at 10:27 pm said:

We are all amused:)

A Muse: goddess who embodies the right evocation of myth, inspired through remembered and improvised song and traditional music and dances.

Not me, I’m just a smart a$$ redneck trying to get a cheap laugh!

DK on 8/14/2006 at 10:36 pm said:

A Muse: goddess who embodies the right evocation of myth, inspired through remembered and improvised song and traditional music and dances.

Not me, I’m just a smart a$$ redneck trying to get a cheap laugh!

DK, youo can put Smart and Redneck in the same sentence, what were you thinking? LOL

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 10:38 pm said:

DK, youo can put Smart and Redneck in the same sentence, what were you thinking? LOL

that’s ok i can’t even type tonite…

“you” “can’t” put smart and redneck in the same sentence….

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 10:38 pm said:

DK, youo can put Smart and Redneck in the same sentence, what were you thinking? LOL

Yea, I know. It’s hard to get them together in the same room! Kinda like Bubba and Leroy. But which is which?

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 10:41 pm said:

that’s ok i can’t even type tonite…

“you” “can’t” put smart and redneck in the same sentence….

Or even the same comment it seems!

DK on 8/14/2006 at 10:41 pm said:

Yea, I know. It’s hard to get them together in the same room! Kinda like Bubba and Leroy. But which is which?

Well I know Leroy is the one with a little bit of the Evil Kitty’s tail still hanging out of his mouth!

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 10:43 pm said:

Well I know Leroy is the one with a little bit of the Evil Kitty’s tail still hanging out of his mouth!

Now that’s a gimmick label waiting to be made if I ever saw it! Not a pretty picture!

DK on 8/14/2006 at 10:46 pm said:

Now that’s a gimmick label waiting to be made if I ever saw it! Not a pretty picture!

Leroy’s Hot Sauce, Tastes like……..
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*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
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*………………Chicken!

You thought I was gonna say #$@$* didn’t ya!

DK on 8/14/2006 at 10:46 pm said:

Now that’s a gimmick label waiting to be made if I ever saw it! Not a pretty picture!

LOL, Bret needs a new sauce “Leroy’s Habby Kitty”

Kinda reminds me of these signs i saw driving thru Phillie one day. Now close your eyes and picture this. In front of a chinese restaurant, a pole with a sign that says “Cat Crossing” and on the same pole right underneath “One Way” !!!!! No Lie, wish i had my camera.

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 10:54 pm said:

LOL, Bret needs a new sauce “Leroy’s Habby Kitty”

Kinda reminds me of these signs i saw driving thru Phillie one day. Now close your eyes and picture this. In front of a chinese restaurant, a pole with a sign that says “Cat Crossing” and on the same pole right underneath “One Way” !!!!! No Lie, wish i had my camera.

That’s ………. just ………. WRONG!

I actually accidentally ordered “cat on a stick” once at a Chinese Restaurant. My boss at the time called the teriyaki chicken that as a joke and when I called to place our order, I let it slip. Needless to say we didn’t eat Chinese for a couple of weeks. I was scared to call them again. I sure as hell didn’t go pick up the order!

DK on 8/14/2006 at 11:01 pm said:

That’s ………. just ………. WRONG!

I actually accidentally ordered “cat on a stick” once at a Chinese Restaurant. My boss at the time called the teriyaki chicken that as a joke and when I called to place our order, I let it slip. Needless to say we didn’t eat Chinese for a couple of weeks. I was scared to call them again. I sure as hell didn’t go pick up the order!

Yeah we were laughing for like 10 minutes.

Cat-on-a-stick! that’s a good one, i’ll have to remember that one. The question is, who was laughing harder? You & youor boss? or the chinese, because it really is cat?

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 11:04 pm said:

Yeah we were laughing for like 10 minutes.

Cat-on-a-stick! that’s a good one, i’ll have to remember that one. The question is, who was laughing harder? You & youor boss? or the chinese, because it really is cat?

I am glad that I will never know the answer to that. I know it wasn’t me, not at the time anyway. I still have to hold my tounge everytime I eat at a Chinese place. “Cat on a Stick” is forever branded into my brain. Hard to call it anything else.

DK on 8/14/2006 at 11:08 pm said:

I am glad that I will never know the answer to that. I know it wasn’t me, not at the time anyway. I still have to hold my tounge everytime I eat at a Chinese place. “Cat on a Stick” is forever branded into my brain. Hard to call it anything else.

That reminds me, I gotta go check on your jerky!

DK on 8/14/2006 at 11:10 pm said:

That reminds me, I gotta go check on your jerky!

That’s beef jerky? or cat jerky?

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 11:16 pm said:

That’s beef jerky? or cat jerky?

Beef. Only other thing around here is ‘gator, and they’re all still swimming! Huv gets all of the Turkey. Fresh out of cat. you know, the jerky gun has a attachment for beef sticks, you know, like Slim Jim’s? Guess I could make some of those and call ‘em Kitty Sticks, What ya think?

DK on 8/14/2006 at 11:23 pm said:

Beef. Only other thing around here is ‘gator, and they’re all still swimming! Huv gets all of the Turkey. Fresh out of cat. you know, the jerky gun has a attachment for beef sticks, you know, like Slim Jim’s? Guess I could make some of those and call ‘em Kitty Sticks, What ya think?

Of course, by the way they looked the first time I made them you could probably take that a couple of different ways, neither are good!

DK on 8/14/2006 at 11:23 pm said:

Beef. Only other thing around here is ‘gator, and they’re all still swimming! Huv gets all of the Turkey. Fresh out of cat. you know, the jerky gun has a attachment for beef sticks, you know, like Slim Jim’s? Guess I could make some of those and call ‘em Kitty Sticks, What ya think?

lol Kitty Sticks…. And I was so lookin forward to Kitty Jerky LOL…not..

bigshow, I gotta call it a night. I still have one more batch to put in the dehydrator. Hopefully I can get everyone covered this time, yours is in there for sure.

DK on 8/14/2006 at 11:30 pm said:

bigshow, I gotta call it a night. I still have one more batch to put in the dehydrator. Hopefully I can get everyone covered this time, yours is in there for sure.

I’ll send you a “kitty stick” just for kicks. it will be the same as the other, just pressed through a different attachment. Oh lord, the “kitty stick” attachment. I think that name’s gonna “stick” now!

DK on 8/14/2006 at 11:33 pm said:

I’ll send you a “kitty stick” just for kicks. it will be the same as the other, just pressed through a different attachment. Oh lord, the “kitty stick” attachment. I think that name’s gonna “stick” now!

have a good one, thanx. I think Kitty Stix will definately stick! My dog is lickin his lips just thinkin about them. lol

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 11:38 pm said:

have a good one, thanx. I think Kitty Stix will definately stick! My dog is lickin his lips just thinkin about them. lol

Hmm, dog lips, gotta find another attachment!

G’night!

DK on 8/14/2006 at 11:39 pm said:

Hmm, dog lips, gotta find another attachment!

G’night!

lol..havew a good one DK…ttyl

Wow,
The more I learn here the more guilty I feel.
Hot Sauce confession #2 ( the 1st was not mine)

Illegal Alien is a Franks based sauce, blended with DITD, garlic and key limes. We thought it was a trick concept, being here in Phoenix AZ, it is front page / headline news everyday, the ” Illegal Alien” that is.
We have 3 more labels, all different sauce taste, but am I guilty of the gimmick thing? I guess so.
Just be assured, that the DITD and all other products from my company are blended and no gimmick, just taste. Thanks gang, just being honest and I hope I dont ruin myself here.

ZF…I will be there

Later
Jack

Arizona Jack on 8/15/2006 at 12:11 am said:

Wow,
The more I learn here the more guilty I feel.
Hot Sauce confession #2 ( the 1st was not mine)

Illegal Alien is a Franks based sauce, blended with DITD, garlic and key limes. We thought it was a trick concept, being here in Phoenix AZ, it is front page / headline news everyday, the ” Illegal Alien” that is.
We have 3 more labels, all different sauce taste, but am I guilty of the gimmick thing? I guess so.
Just be assured, that the DITD and all other products from my company are blended and no gimmick, just taste. Thanks gang, just being honest and I hope I dont ruin myself here.

ZF…I will be there

Later
Jack

Look forward to meeting you in TX Jack. As maunufacturers I think we are all GUILTY of some little selling tactic. No apologies necessary, whatever it takes!

Arizona Jack on 8/15/2006 at 12:11 am said:

Wow,
The more I learn here the more guilty I feel.
Hot Sauce confession #2 ( the 1st was not mine)

Illegal Alien is a Franks based sauce, blended with DITD, garlic and key limes. We thought it was a trick concept, being here in Phoenix AZ, it is front page / headline news everyday, the ” Illegal Alien” that is.
We have 3 more labels, all different sauce taste, but am I guilty of the gimmick thing? I guess so.
Just be assured, that the DITD and all other products from my company are blended and no gimmick, just taste. Thanks gang, just being honest and I hope I dont ruin myself here.

ZF…I will be there

Later
Jack

Looking forward to meeting you too. If you read my comments, you’ll see that I am on your side:)

This ‘gimmick’ stuff has done nothing but make me laugh. As I stated some time ago, just the term ‘gimmick’ connotates a ruse or misdirection, like a politician kissing babies. Interesting that the dictionary tends to lean towards this view as well:

gim•mick n.
1. A device employed to cheat, deceive, or trick, especially a mechanism for the secret and dishonest control of gambling apparatus.
2. A significant feature that is obscured, misrepresented, or not readily evident; a catch.

It also states advertising uses as well, but the first two definitions (the most common) were these. I prefer marketing mechanism, or advertising tool over the term gimmick. My degree is in international marketing, not international gimmickry.

gimmick, marketing, advertising. all the same, it’s what you use to sell product……a gimmick something to catch someones eye…… a gimmick

Mrs Ryan …First of all im not hidding behind any name or company..and as for me stirring up some phonoy bolgna crap(as YOU call it)I enjoy talking to different people with diffrent thoughts Sorry No wait not sorry that you have no respect for me but these are my opions.so before you start telling people im hiding behind someone or something you may want to know what the hell your talking about and i must say my thoughts on the good lable ver. the great tasting sauce is as you would say my opion..but when you have done a quarter of he reserch that i have done on this subject,,then you would have every right to comment..Sorry if im coming of a little nasty but when you tell me im hiding and stirring up crap that just gets me angry!!!!!!

the truth on 8/15/2006 at 11:22 am said:

Mrs Ryan …First of all im not hidding behind any name or company..and as for me stirring up some phonoy bolgna crap(as YOU call it)I enjoy talking to different people with diffrent thoughts Sorry No wait not sorry that you have no respect for me but these are my opions.so before you start telling people im hiding behind someone or something you may want to know what the hell your talking about and i must say my thoughts on the good lable ver. the great tasting sauce is as you would say my opion..but when you have done a quarter of he reserch that i have done on this subject,,then you would have every right to comment..Sorry if im coming of a little nasty but when you tell me im hiding and stirring up crap that just gets me angry!!!!!!

Not trying to make things worse, but she did say “cArp” rather than “cRap”. Its an inside joke stemming from a typo I made a couple months ago

the truth on 8/15/2006 at 11:22 am said:

Mrs Ryan …First of all im not hidding behind any name or company..and as for me stirring up some phonoy bolgna crap(as YOU call it)I enjoy talking to different people with diffrent thoughts Sorry No wait not sorry that you have no respect for me but these are my opions.so before you start telling people im hiding behind someone or something you may want to know what the hell your talking about and i must say my thoughts on the good lable ver. the great tasting sauce is as you would say my opion..but when you have done a quarter of he reserch that i have done on this subject,,then you would have every right to comment..Sorry if im coming of a little nasty but when you tell me im hiding and stirring up crap that just gets me angry!!!!!!

Look out… first we had angry pepper, now angry truth

here we go… get your popcorn ready

DEFCON Creator on 8/15/2006 at 9:24 am said:

This ‘gimmick’ stuff has done nothing but make me laugh. As I stated some time ago, just the term ‘gimmick’ connotates a ruse or misdirection, like a politician kissing babies. Interesting that the dictionary tends to lean towards this view as well:

gim•mick n.
1. A device employed to cheat, deceive, or trick, especially a mechanism for the secret and dishonest control of gambling apparatus.
2. A significant feature that is obscured, misrepresented, or not readily evident; a catch.

It also states advertising uses as well, but the first two definitions (the most common) were these. I prefer marketing mechanism, or advertising tool over the term gimmick. My degree is in international marketing, not international gimmickry.

For the record: An innovative stratagem or scheme employed especially to promote a project: an advertising gimmick.

locolunabrian on 8/15/2006 at 12:07 pm said:

here we go… get your popcorn ready

LOL… do we get the matinee price?

chrisk on 8/15/2006 at 12:07 pm said:

Look out… first we had angry pepper, now angry truth

Hey now, there can’t be two angry people on here…I had to go to anger management to earn my title

“Sorry if im coming of a little nasty but when you tell me im hiding and stirring up crap that just gets me angry!!!!!”

I’d say dont worry about it and keep posting truth, but I can tell by your comments you will. Sometimes its what we need around here, and everyone’s opinion is worth hearing. (or at least reading)

Sometimes its nice to “hear the truth” even if we dont want to!

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 12:11 pm said:

Hey now, there can’t be two angry people on here…I had to go to anger management to earn my title

Sorry ryan, looks like truth’s beyond flustered and a bit angry. Maybe you can get him (or her) on a trademark infringment…lol

As long as we’re offering opinions here…. I think the biggest part of this is stemming from differences in definitions of ‘gimmick’. Used in the broadest sense, *everything* is a gimmick in that it is designed to be a ‘catch’. Raspberry chipotle could be considered a ‘gimmick’ since it is not a ‘normal’ combination. Me wearing my full gear and SCBA in Houston (107 F) could be considered a gimmick. I think the problems are coming from one segment here that is defining ‘gimmick’ as ‘deceptive’ or worse, ‘dishonest’ and so folks are taking umbrage at that. The blog here is camping on two different sides of the use of the term. I don’t know of any posts that used ‘gimmick’ to mean really insulting. Just some folks take it that way.

Getting ready to do a MAJOR ‘gimmick’ tomorrow See? No offense taken

Back to the training diet of Arbys’ slathered in Cape Fear Chipotle Sauce Outstanding!!

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/15/2006 at 12:22 pm said:

As long as we’re offering opinions here…. I think the biggest part of this is stemming from differences in definitions of ‘gimmick’. Used in the broadest sense, *everything* is a gimmick in that it is designed to be a ‘catch’. Raspberry chipotle could be considered a ‘gimmick’ since it is not a ‘normal’ combination. Me wearing my full gear and SCBA in Houston (107 F) could be considered a gimmick. I think the problems are coming from one segment here that is defining ‘gimmick’ as ‘deceptive’ or worse, ‘dishonest’ and so folks are taking umbrage at that. The blog here is camping on two different sides of the use of the term. I don’t know of any posts that used ‘gimmick’ to mean really insulting. Just some folks take it that way.

Getting ready to do a MAJOR ‘gimmick’ tomorrow See? No offense taken

Back to the training diet of Arbys’ slathered in Cape Fear Chipotle Sauce Outstanding!!

Jim,
I agree with you. We’re just trying to draw attention to our selves and products so people will try them. After that the way the product tastes will be the final comment.

I agree with you Jim, it does seem two camps have set up. My only problem is with the actual word and what it implies, which is dishonesty and/or underhandedness. Yes it can also be viewed as a marketing/advertising tool, but personally, when I hear about someone using a gimmick for sales, it makes whatever the product is sound cheap and phony, like politicians. You always hear about gimmicks being used in politics, and we all know how honest politicians are.

DEFCON Creator on 8/15/2006 at 12:39 pm said:

I agree with you Jim, it does seem two camps have set up. My only problem is with the actual word and what it implies, which is dishonesty and/or underhandedness. Yes it can also be viewed as a marketing/advertising tool, but personally, when I hear about someone using a gimmick for sales, it makes whatever the product is sound cheap and phony, like politicians. You always hear about gimmicks being used in politics, and we all know how honest politicians are.

Lets not forget religion…LOTS of gimmicks there….let the comments roll

BTW, yesterday I received a bottle of Habanero Punch…Haven’t opened it yet as I’m still admiring the gimmicks

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 12:56 pm said:

Lets not forget religion…LOTS of gimmicks there….let the comments roll

Let’s not go there Ryan.

locolunabrian on 8/15/2006 at 1:39 pm said:

Let’s not go there Ryan.

I didn’t think anyone would

chrisk on 8/15/2006 at 12:09 pm said:

LOL… do we get the matinee price?

what sauce are we putting on that popcorn?

thebigshow on 8/15/2006 at 2:02 pm said:

what sauce are we putting on that popcorn?

whatever you want bigshow, just bring plenty

maybe just some hab powder

chrisk on 8/15/2006 at 2:08 pm said:

whatever you want bigshow, just bring plenty

maybe just some hab powder

I’ll bring enough for everyone.

I think it’s gonna be a long show.

thebigshow on 8/15/2006 at 2:12 pm said:

I’ll bring enough for everyone.

I think it’s gonna be a long show.

Cool, a double-feature at a matinee price

Whats next, half-price popcorn?

chrisk on 8/15/2006 at 2:36 pm said:

Cool, a double-feature at a matinee price

Whats next, half-price popcorn?

Well that depends is “Fire Kernels” a gimmick?

thebigshow on 8/15/2006 at 3:04 pm said:

Well that depends is “Fire Kernels” a gimmick?

I wont answer that, as much as I want to…lol

thebigshow on 8/15/2006 at 3:04 pm said:

Well that depends is “Fire Kernels” a gimmick?

yes

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 3:41 pm said:

yes

lol… I can’t talk, Ryan you know all to well how gimmicky my logos are gonna be. btw….gonna send you an e-mail, i got a slight change i think might be better, will let you decide.

hey im not mad over this whole gimmick thing like i said everyone has there own opion and i respect that…just dont tell me that im going on under someone else name and slinging crap…not about that i dont hide and as you all can see if i have something to say i will say it

the truth on 8/15/2006 at 5:49 pm said:

hey im not mad over this whole gimmick thing like i said everyone has there own opion and i respect that…just dont tell me that im going on under someone else name and slinging crap…not about that i dont hide and as you all can see if i have something to say i will say it

truth, did you get my message before? some ideas on the “Find the Truth Booth”.

the truth on 8/15/2006 at 5:49 pm said:

hey im not mad over this whole gimmick thing like i said everyone has there own opion and i respect that…just dont tell me that im going on under someone else name and slinging crap…not about that i dont hide and as you all can see if i have something to say i will say it

Just out of curiosity, what sauce do you manufacture?

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 5:59 pm said:

Just out of curiosity, what sauce do you manufacture?

Ryan, he/she said it will be known at ZF, they have a booth there. May even do a little Find the Truth Booth.

thebigshow on 8/15/2006 at 6:06 pm said:

Ryan, he/she said it will be known at ZF, they have a booth there. May even do a little Find the Truth Booth.

Well now my imagination is getting the better of me. How are we going to know what sauce is his unless he announces it before ZF? This is what my wife is referring to when she says that he’s hiding. He goes on about his sauce, but its not public knowledge as to what sauce he makes.

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 6:14 pm said:

Well now my imagination is getting the better of me. How are we going to know what sauce is his unless he announces it before ZF? This is what my wife is referring to when she says that he’s hiding. He goes on about his sauce, but its not public knowledge as to what sauce he makes.

Hey Ryan- you’ve got mail.

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 6:14 pm said:

Well now my imagination is getting the better of me. How are we going to know what sauce is his unless he announces it before ZF? This is what my wife is referring to when she says that he’s hiding. He goes on about his sauce, but its not public knowledge as to what sauce he makes.

you won’t know before hand, but you will be able to find out there

Vic on 8/15/2006 at 6:35 pm said:

Hey Ryan- you’ve got mail.

sounds like maybe vic knows who it is….

hey big whats your email again

the truth on 8/15/2006 at 6:56 pm said:

hey big whats your email again

thebigshow823 “at” yahoo “dot” com

Vic on 8/15/2006 at 6:35 pm said:

Hey Ryan- you’ve got mail.

already replied Vic. Big, I’ll get to yours a little later, but Vic had nothing to say about Truth. BTW vic, did you get the e-mail I sent you earlier today to YOUR e-mail address?

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 7:10 pm said:

already replied Vic. Big, I’ll get to yours a little later, but Vic had nothing to say about Truth. BTW vic, did you get the e-mail I sent you earlier today to YOUR e-mail address?

Ok I feel left out. Ryan – you have mail!

huvason on 8/15/2006 at 7:33 pm said:

Ok I feel left out. Ryan – you have mail!

Huv you’re never left out

thebigshow on 8/15/2006 at 7:41 pm said:

Huv you’re never left out

LOL – tell that to my wife!

huvason on 8/15/2006 at 7:46 pm said:

LOL – tell that to my wife!

I’m not sure I should….lol

It is easy enough to see the list of exhibitors. Find it right here..

3 AM Bobby Que Products
AMK Enterprises – Beanie’s Home Made Salsa
Badgerland Products (BLP Labels)
Big Dawg Salsa
Big Ricks
Blackwell’s Texas Lava
Bluegreen Corporation
Blair’s Sauces & Snacks
Bodine Etc./Specialty Foods
Burning Asphalt Sauces
CaJohn’s Fiery Foods
Captain Thom’s Chili Pepper Company
Caribbean Specialty Foods
Chipotle Texas
Chugwater Chili
Chuck Evans’ Montezuma Brand
Cin Chili
Cluck-N-Stuff
Cowboy Poet’s Salsa
Danny Cash Hot Sauce
Davis Mountain Nut Company
Dr. Kracker
F.I.T. Inc/Chile Grill
Galloway Gourmet Foods
Garden Fresh Salsa
Gecko Gary’s Gourmet Fiery Foods
German Roasted Nuts
Glen Hobbs LLC
Goleta Inc.
Grandaddy’s Ultimate Seasoning
Grill Sergeant Gourmet Sauces & Salsa
Grumpy’s Foods
H3 Ranch
Heaters
Hot Shots
Hot Wachulas
Inovar Packaging Group
J Bar B Company
Jersey Boyz Jerky
Kabob-It
Kaurina’s
Kerr Enterprises
Legends
Lewis Label
Lizard’s on the Bayou
Loco Luna Gourmet Foods, LLC
Longbranch Trading Company, LLC
Lt. Blender’s Frozen Concoctions
Mardi Designs
MeMe’s Jams N’ Jelli
Mild to Wild Pepper & Herb Co.
My Favorite New Mexico Foods
Nando’s Peri-Peri Sauces
Old Pueblo Distributing
Pedro’s Tamales
Porky’s Gourmet Foods
Primera Technology
Redd-Eye Brand, LLC
Renfro Foods
Richie’s Tropical Kitchen
RoBear’s Gourmet Foods, LLC
Rodriguez Foods
Salsa Xochitl, Inc
Scotty “B’s” Gourmet Foods
Seven Flags Foods
Sidney Cobb’s Baskets Galore
Sparky & Spike’s
Stich’s Products LLC
Texas Chile Warehouse
Texas Department of Agriculture
Texas Red Hot Rooster
The Art of Chipotle (Pfleider Pfoods)
The Pepper Source
The Salsa King Fine Southwestern Food
The Salt Lick
Three Angel Farm
Three Hot Tamales
Tommy Burns, LP
Tommy’s Stuffed Jalapeno Racks
Villages at Lone Oak
Walker & Sons, Inc
Waazuu!
What’s Up Enterprises/Uncle Jess’s
Whitson Chile Products LLC
Widow’s Mite
Wild Rooster
Wing-Time Inc.
Woolley’s Frozen Custard
Z’s Creative Cuisine

locolunabrian on 8/15/2006 at 8:21 pm said:

It is easy enough to see the list of exhibitors. Find it right here..

3 AM Bobby Que Products
AMK Enterprises – Beanie’s Home Made Salsa
Badgerland Products (BLP Labels)
Big Dawg Salsa
Big Ricks
Blackwell’s Texas Lava
Bluegreen Corporation
Blair’s Sauces & Snacks
Bodine Etc./Specialty Foods
Burning Asphalt Sauces
CaJohn’s Fiery Foods
Captain Thom’s Chili Pepper Company
Caribbean Specialty Foods
Chipotle Texas
Chugwater Chili
Chuck Evans’ Montezuma Brand
Cin Chili
Cluck-N-Stuff
Cowboy Poet’s Salsa
Danny Cash Hot Sauce
Davis Mountain Nut Company
Dr. Kracker
F.I.T. Inc/Chile Grill
Galloway Gourmet Foods
Garden Fresh Salsa
Gecko Gary’s Gourmet Fiery Foods
German Roasted Nuts
Glen Hobbs LLC
Goleta Inc.
Grandaddy’s Ultimate Seasoning
Grill Sergeant Gourmet Sauces & Salsa
Grumpy’s Foods
H3 Ranch
Heaters
Hot Shots
Hot Wachulas
Inovar Packaging Group
J Bar B Company
Jersey Boyz Jerky
Kabob-It
Kaurina’s
Kerr Enterprises
Legends
Lewis Label
Lizard’s on the Bayou
Loco Luna Gourmet Foods, LLC
Longbranch Trading Company, LLC
Lt. Blender’s Frozen Concoctions
Mardi Designs
MeMe’s Jams N’ Jelli
Mild to Wild Pepper & Herb Co.
My Favorite New Mexico Foods
Nando’s Peri-Peri Sauces
Old Pueblo Distributing
Pedro’s Tamales
Porky’s Gourmet Foods
Primera Technology
Redd-Eye Brand, LLC
Renfro Foods
Richie’s Tropical Kitchen
RoBear’s Gourmet Foods, LLC
Rodriguez Foods
Salsa Xochitl, Inc
Scotty “B’s” Gourmet Foods
Seven Flags Foods
Sidney Cobb’s Baskets Galore
Sparky & Spike’s
Stich’s Products LLC
Texas Chile Warehouse
Texas Department of Agriculture
Texas Red Hot Rooster
The Art of Chipotle (Pfleider Pfoods)
The Pepper Source
The Salsa King Fine Southwestern Food
The Salt Lick
Three Angel Farm
Three Hot Tamales
Tommy Burns, LP
Tommy’s Stuffed Jalapeno Racks
Villages at Lone Oak
Walker & Sons, Inc
Waazuu!
What’s Up Enterprises/Uncle Jess’s
Whitson Chile Products LLC
Widow’s Mite
Wild Rooster
Wing-Time Inc.
Woolley’s Frozen Custard
Z’s Creative Cuisine

Well that’s a pretty big list…..

thebigshow on 8/15/2006 at 8:22 pm said:

Well that’s a pretty big list…..

already had it, it was posted on the Hot Zone a day or two ago. Yeah, don’t see any Truth on that list. All I’ve got to say is this. The great thing about this blog is that many of us talk behind the scenes, and a lot of us have the same thoughts and opinions about this. If a manufacturer is afraid to speak on an open forum and not tell people which product he is manufacturing, that is saying a lot about that person’s character, integrity, and faith in his product.

Question: How do you get your product to sell without promoting it, and how do you promote it when the product, and manufacturer, are nameless? You don’t. I’m not a manufacturer, but I do business with a few and have learned much about the hot sauce industry. There’s a sort of fraternity amongh them, and Truth, you don’t exactly fit the mold. I’m not saying these things to piss anyone off, but its time to either s#!t or get off the pot. You do hide behind a fake name, and don’t stand behind your product. There are exceptions to the name thing, but that’s only if that’s how the industry knows you. Granted, you’re “the truth” so to speak, but in essence that’s an oxymoron because in this case “the truth” is a ruse or a lie, Games are fun and all, but if you’re going to spout off about your knowledge of the industry, put up or shut up. Its becoming rather old.

by the looks of it angry young boy its not old if you yourself keep talking about it

Skin rashes get old, yet they’re still irritating and people express their discontent with them

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 7:34 pm said:

I am speaking for my self here and noone else. I am having a hard time with the fact that a manufacturer is hiding behind another name and stirring carp, if you can’t stir it under the name your known for then you shouldn’t be stirring it. whoever you happen to be, whether I ever find out or not, I have zero respect for phony bologna carp like this

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 9:52 pm said:

already had it, it was posted on the Hot Zone a day or two ago. Yeah, don’t see any Truth on that list. All I’ve got to say is this. The great thing about this blog is that many of us talk behind the scenes, and a lot of us have the same thoughts and opinions about this. If a manufacturer is afraid to speak on an open forum and not tell people which product he is manufacturing, that is saying a lot about that person’s character, integrity, and faith in his product.

Question: How do you get your product to sell without promoting it, and how do you promote it when the product, and manufacturer, are nameless? You don’t. I’m not a manufacturer, but I do business with a few and have learned much about the hot sauce industry. There’s a sort of fraternity amongh them, and Truth, you don’t exactly fit the mold. I’m not saying these things to piss anyone off, but its time to either s#!t or get off the pot. You do hide behind a fake name, and don’t stand behind your product. There are exceptions to the name thing, but that’s only if that’s how the industry knows you. Granted, you’re “the truth” so to speak, but in essence that’s an oxymoron because in this case “the truth” is a ruse or a lie, Games are fun and all, but if you’re going to spout off about your knowledge of the industry, put up or shut up. Its becoming rather old.

Hey Guys, Why are you getting so worked up about an anyomous opinion or statements. Let it slide like water off a ducks back. Now if Blair or Cajohn, Jim Campbell or anyone you can identify with thats one thing. But The Truth is just words on a screen with no identity behind them. So why bother!!

Scotty B

Scotty B’s Hot Sauces on 8/15/2006 at 10:21 pm said:

Hey Guys, Why are you getting so worked up about an anyomous opinion or statements. Let it slide like water off a ducks back. Now if Blair or Cajohn, Jim Campbell or anyone you can identify with thats one thing. But The Truth is just words on a screen with no identity behind them. So why bother!!

Scotty B

Cause the guy’s all talk and nothing to back it up. You’re a manufacturer, you let be known what sauce you create and you’re proud of it. This guy claims to know all but has nothing to prove that what he says holds any water. As the sying goes, “ya aint gotta lie ta kick it”

Huv, about to try your “Hot” sauce. I’ll give a quick review here in a few.

Fat Kid Sauces “Hot” Hot Sauce…Just went through half the bottle on some chicken strips. Smells great, I personally like the thickness, and the flavor is awesome! Couldn’t get enough of it. Not blazing hot like I’d need yogurt on standby, but a mellow burn you can feel and enjoy. Great all around sauce my friend, you’ve got a customer for life! Tomorrow I try the extreme

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 10:43 pm said:

Fat Kid Sauces “Hot” Hot Sauce…Just went through half the bottle on some chicken strips. Smells great, I personally like the thickness, and the flavor is awesome! Couldn’t get enough of it. Not blazing hot like I’d need yogurt on standby, but a mellow burn you can feel and enjoy. Great all around sauce my friend, you’ve got a customer for life! Tomorrow I try the extreme

Definately a very good tasting sauce with a nice little heat. You will feel the extreme more, and it will be a delayed burn, at least it was for me. Definately not a yogurt sauce, but plenty of heat for those that like it hotter yes still retain the flavor.

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 10:28 pm said:

Cause the guy’s all talk and nothing to back it up. You’re a manufacturer, you let be known what sauce you create and you’re proud of it. This guy claims to know all but has nothing to prove that what he says holds any water. As the sying goes, “ya aint gotta lie ta kick it”

Definately not implying anything here, and personally I’m ok with him remaining anonymous. But just think, this could be the biggest gimmick of them all! How would that be for marketing to chileheads? LOL … please don’t everyone freak out about this..just putting another thought out there.

Truth, i don’t care either way if it is not, and Ryan, I do understand where you’re coming from. CYA….lol

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 10:43 pm said:

Fat Kid Sauces “Hot” Hot Sauce…Just went through half the bottle on some chicken strips. Smells great, I personally like the thickness, and the flavor is awesome! Couldn’t get enough of it. Not blazing hot like I’d need yogurt on standby, but a mellow burn you can feel and enjoy. Great all around sauce my friend, you’ve got a customer for life! Tomorrow I try the extreme

But ain’t it though! I went through my whole bottle of the “hot” in just a couple of meals. Your words nearly mirror mine Ryan. Just sent Huv an email stating “customer for life” as well. I can’t wait to get and try the EXTREME! Should have some kick to it. Can’t wait to read your thoughts on it as well.

Ryan, you want any jerky? I’m gonna make one more batch probably this weekend and call it quits for a little while. I still owe you for turning me on to that 3 AM when I was looking and the pointers on the Pimp Yo Sauce. I would be glad to send you some. You have my email.

Scotty B’s Hot Sauces on 8/15/2006 at 10:21 pm said:

Hey Guys, Why are you getting so worked up about an anyomous opinion or statements. Let it slide like water off a ducks back. Now if Blair or Cajohn, Jim Campbell or anyone you can identify with thats one thing. But The Truth is just words on a screen with no identity behind them. So why bother!!

Scotty B

I agree. I was gonna post earlier, when I read about
truth’s “reasearch” and noticed that there were no references to anything to back it up. Lack of credibility due to lack of evidence type of thing. The words about beating a dead horse kept repeating itself over and over in my head an I thought it best to leave it alone.

I guess this post just screwed that up huh.

thebigshow on 8/15/2006 at 11:06 pm said:

Definately not implying anything here, and personally I’m ok with him remaining anonymous. But just think, this could be the biggest gimmick of them all! How would that be for marketing to chileheads? LOL … please don’t everyone freak out about this..just putting another thought out there.

Truth, i don’t care either way if it is not, and Ryan, I do understand where you’re coming from. CYA….lol

Yeah, I thought about that angle of things “build the mystique of it all”. I don’t blame you for not carring either way. That’s your choice and that I do respect. I’ve just seen other manufacturers employ very similar tactics, but they still backed their stuff up with actual product. I do respect the fact that he has his opinions about things. Its the things that he makes out to be fact and then doesn’t present supporting evidence that bothers me. Call me self righteous, but I like to dig for the benefit of all. You’d think that if you’re gonna have a booth at ZF, you’d want to bring some kind of positive attention to your product and get the word out. This just equates to a door to door salesman selling invisible door mats. Who the hell wants that? For all I know, this guy is H.P. Skelton…and if that’s the case, god help us all.

DK on 8/15/2006 at 11:09 pm said:

But ain’t it though! I went through my whole bottle of the “hot” in just a couple of meals. Your words nearly mirror mine Ryan. Just sent Huv an email stating “customer for life” as well. I can’t wait to get and try the EXTREME! Should have some kick to it. Can’t wait to read your thoughts on it as well.

Ryan, you want any jerky? I’m gonna make one more batch probably this weekend and call it quits for a little while. I still owe you for turning me on to that 3 AM when I was looking and the pointers on the Pimp Yo Sauce. I would be glad to send you some. You have my email.

Hey DK, you don’t owe me anything for pointing you to the 3AM or the pimp your sauce stuff. It was all done out of what little goodness there is in my heart So if you feel inclinced to send me some jerky, I would be happy to accept, but please don’t go through any extra trouble on my account. I’ll send you my addy, you do what you want with it

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 10:28 pm said:

Cause the guy’s all talk and nothing to back it up. You’re a manufacturer, you let be known what sauce you create and you’re proud of it. This guy claims to know all but has nothing to prove that what he says holds any water. As the sying goes, “ya aint gotta lie ta kick it”

Why waste your energy and brain power and blood pressure, Let it go or bend like a reed in the wind!!

Scotty B

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 11:21 pm said:

Yeah, I thought about that angle of things “build the mystique of it all”. I don’t blame you for not carring either way. That’s your choice and that I do respect. I’ve just seen other manufacturers employ very similar tactics, but they still backed their stuff up with actual product. I do respect the fact that he has his opinions about things. Its the things that he makes out to be fact and then doesn’t present supporting evidence that bothers me. Call me self righteous, but I like to dig for the benefit of all. You’d think that if you’re gonna have a booth at ZF, you’d want to bring some kind of positive attention to your product and get the word out. This just equates to a door to door salesman selling invisible door mats. Who the hell wants that? For all I know, this guy is H.P. Skelton…and if that’s the case, god help us all.

Ryan, you definately got me laughing with the “invisible floor mats”!! And believe me, i love it when things get heated up in here, really makes for a good read. i do hope “truth” eventually lets it be known who he/she is and what his/her product is, just to put this to a close at some point. it was mentioned that they would at zf, and even the idea of “Find the Truth” booth is out there.

Even if noone wants to buy the product, i look forward to the chase, if just for the fun of the chase!

Scotty B’s Hot Sauces on 8/15/2006 at 11:26 pm said:

Why waste your energy and brain power and blood pressure, Let it go or bend like a reed in the wind!!

Scotty B

I cant speak for Ryan, but there any no wind that’s gonna bend this fat reed…lol

thebigshow on 8/15/2006 at 11:30 pm said:

Ryan, you definately got me laughing with the “invisible floor mats”!! And believe me, i love it when things get heated up in here, really makes for a good read. i do hope “truth” eventually lets it be known who he/she is and what his/her product is, just to put this to a close at some point. it was mentioned that they would at zf, and even the idea of “Find the Truth” booth is out there.

Even if noone wants to buy the product, i look forward to the chase, if just for the fun of the chase!

Damn BigShow you really do miss the X – Files don’t you HA!!
I liked it alot also.
Ok how about this – flow around a boulder like a stream of water.

Scotty B

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 11:25 pm said:

Hey DK, you don’t owe me anything for pointing you to the 3AM or the pimp your sauce stuff. It was all done out of what little goodness there is in my heart So if you feel inclinced to send me some jerky, I would be happy to accept, but please don’t go through any extra trouble on my account. I’ll send you my addy, you do what you want with it

Technically I don’t owe ya, but hate to leave you out of the mix, I got this jerky thing going pretty good right now. Got enoough made to do me and to share the love with a few people as well. Besides, I’ve got a couple of funny labels made up for the jerky I would love for ya to see! bigshow’s getting both in a couple of days as well.

Notice I called them “funny” labels! It’s all about the fun. No gimmick there. Fun making it, fun eating it, fun labeling it, but mostly fun in sharing it.

Shoot me your addy, i’ll send ya some, got to make more anyway, no trouble at all.

And Arizona Jack, I’ll have you some this time around also. Although I in no way expect it to be as good as yours, I would still be honored for you to try it.

Does anybody know how to get a booth map for ZF?
Our flight gets there Friday at 2:00 so we will miss collector day, but I want to hook up with everybody. We are at Ameri something Stockyards.

Scotty B’s Hot Sauces on 8/15/2006 at 11:26 pm said:

Why waste your energy and brain power and blood pressure, Let it go or bend like a reed in the wind!!

Scotty B

Scotty, as much as I appreciate your concern for my health, I assure you my blood preasure is not rising. Not to sound like a prick, but why waste your time and energy on asking me why waste MY time and energy? Don’t get me wrong, I like ya Scotty. Its all in fun, people just find different things amusing and relaxing

DK on 8/15/2006 at 11:44 pm said:

Technically I don’t owe ya, but hate to leave you out of the mix, I got this jerky thing going pretty good right now. Got enoough made to do me and to share the love with a few people as well. Besides, I’ve got a couple of funny labels made up for the jerky I would love for ya to see! bigshow’s getting both in a couple of days as well.

Notice I called them “funny” labels! It’s all about the fun. No gimmick there. Fun making it, fun eating it, fun labeling it, but mostly fun in sharing it.

Shoot me your addy, i’ll send ya some, got to make more anyway, no trouble at all.

And Arizona Jack, I’ll have you some this time around also. Although I in no way expect it to be as good as yours, I would still be honored for you to try it.

Aye captain…com’n atcha shortly…ARRRRggggghhhh At least let me cover the cost of shipping.

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 11:52 pm said:

Scotty, as much as I appreciate your concern for my health, I assure you my blood preasure is not rising. Not to sound like a prick, but why waste your time and energy on asking me why waste MY time and energy? Don’t get me wrong, I like ya Scotty. Its all in fun, people just find different things amusing and relaxing

Because you are not an anonymous opinion!!! but thats cool,
nuff said on subject I’m Out!!

Scotty

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/15/2006 at 11:53 pm said:

Aye captain…com’n atcha shortly…ARRRRggggghhhh At least let me cover the cost of shipping.

Just send me an addy, When you get the jerky you can send me all the money you want! Seriously, don’t worry about the freight, I’ll send it USPS and it’ll only be a couple of bucks. No biggie.

Scotty B’s Hot Sauces on 8/15/2006 at 11:59 pm said:

Because you are not an anonymous opinion!!! but thats cool,
nuff said on subject I’m Out!!

Scotty

Night Scotty! it’s be no fun if I was annonymous I’m not afraid of the words that come out of my mouth… or in ths case my fingers

the truth on 8/15/2006 at 11:22 am said:

Mrs Ryan …First of all im not hidding behind any name or company..and as for me stirring up some phonoy bolgna crap(as YOU call it)I enjoy talking to different people with diffrent thoughts Sorry No wait not sorry that you have no respect for me but these are my opions.so before you start telling people im hiding behind someone or something you may want to know what the hell your talking about and i must say my thoughts on the good lable ver. the great tasting sauce is as you would say my opion..but when you have done a quarter of he reserch that i have done on this subject,,then you would have every right to comment..Sorry if im coming of a little nasty but when you tell me im hiding and stirring up crap that just gets me angry!!!!!!

ROFL, why are you so defensive? if you can’t take the heat stay the hell out of the kitchen

Politicians use gimmicks very true, but not all politicians are dishonest and neither are their gimmicks. ALL hot sauce manufacturers use gimmicks to bring out a new product promote sales or reintroduce an old sauce with a new new label, MOST manufacturers are honest people, and odn’t freak out and get defensive when the word “gimmick” is used. as i have stated in almost every post I have made, everyone has a gimmick, mine is my red hair, and nicname. my sauce label is full of gimmicks, gimmicks are good.

Scotty B’s Hot Sauces on 8/15/2006 at 11:42 pm said:

Damn BigShow you really do miss the X – Files don’t you HA!!
I liked it alot also.
Ok how about this – flow around a boulder like a stream of water.

Scotty B

Actually Scotty, never watched the x-files, i assume those are lines from it? i just kinda pictured a salesman trying to sell an invisible item…

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/15/2006 at 12:22 pm said:

As long as we’re offering opinions here…. I think the biggest part of this is stemming from differences in definitions of ‘gimmick’. Used in the broadest sense, *everything* is a gimmick in that it is designed to be a ‘catch’. Raspberry chipotle could be considered a ‘gimmick’ since it is not a ‘normal’ combination. Me wearing my full gear and SCBA in Houston (107 F) could be considered a gimmick. I think the problems are coming from one segment here that is defining ‘gimmick’ as ‘deceptive’ or worse, ‘dishonest’ and so folks are taking umbrage at that. The blog here is camping on two different sides of the use of the term. I don’t know of any posts that used ‘gimmick’ to mean really insulting. Just some folks take it that way.

Getting ready to do a MAJOR ‘gimmick’ tomorrow See? No offense taken

Back to the training diet of Arbys’ slathered in Cape Fear Chipotle Sauce Outstanding!!

Good Luck Today Jim!!!!! All here in Houston are routing for you!!!!!

Gimmick, marketing, promoting. I have to get on here and read more often. I think taste is very relative to each individual. Shoot, my Norwegian husband and I have huge taste differences.

We shamelessly try to incorporate whatever we can to get the Houston festival name out there. It will get us in the news, on the radio and TV, attendees through the door. The media love the funny names and gimmicks. Jim is a favorite. He draws people to the festival and his booth with his hot fireman gear (when you break the record I will include it in our press release – PR for all – ha). Its the great returning favorites and new flavorful products that keep the people coming back to try & buy year after year. The Hook or flavor? Out of 15, our Peoples Choice Hottest Hot Sauce at the Festival is a friendly, competitive and VERY popular category. CaJohn and Jim are setup next to each other. Its great fun if youre working in the beer booth (strategically located. and please dont yell at me. I know all the remedies to put out flames) – right after someone tastes Black Mamba and Stupid Hot a.k.a. Unbearable back to back.

Ok, I just plugged 2 exhibitors, their products and the festival in one long winded paragraph. But (again), I cant leave without mentioning, Charmin Toilet Paper just signed on as a sponsor. The marketing tie-in is just too good to be true! What a hoot.

Hope to see some of ya’ll in a month!

Ryan unless u have some sort of a complex that everyone lies to you(and if you do sorry to hear that)i have told you what research i have done and my methods of getting customers i dont know about you but i dont lie and if i tell you who i am and what sauces i am involved with Ryan.. im more than sure you will feel kind of stupid!!!so please keep the dumb ass comments coming i love to laugh

the truth on 8/16/2006 at 10:22 am said:

Ryan unless u have some sort of a complex that everyone lies to you(and if you do sorry to hear that)i have told you what research i have done and my methods of getting customers i dont know about you but i dont lie and if i tell you who i am and what sauces i am involved with Ryan.. im more than sure you will feel kind of stupid!!!so please keep the dumb ass comments coming i love to laugh

LOL, no complex, I do this for the fun of it I’m glad we have both been able to get laughs out of this, just for different reasons. If you’re so sure I’ll feel stupid if you tell me who I am and what sauce you’re involved with, then by all means let the cat out of the bag. I gotta get ready for work, so I’ll catch up later. Have a great morning

u to ryan nothin personal have a good day

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/16/2006 at 10:35 am said:

LOL, no complex, I do this for the fun of it I’m glad we have both been able to get laughs out of this, just for different reasons. If you’re so sure I’ll feel stupid if you tell me who I am and what sauce you’re involved with, then by all means let the cat out of the bag. I gotta get ready for work, so I’ll catch up later. Have a great morning

Ok, my last post was before any caffine had hit my blood stream…I mean to say who YOU are, not who I am off to work

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/16/2006 at 11:01 am said:

Ok, my last post was before any caffine had hit my blood stream…I mean to say who YOU are, not who I am off to work

LOL I tell him what he is everyday, he just doesn’t listen or believe it

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/16/2006 at 10:35 am said:

LOL, no complex, I do this for the fun of it I’m glad we have both been able to get laughs out of this, just for different reasons. If you’re so sure I’ll feel stupid if you tell me who I am and what sauce you’re involved with, then by all means let the cat out of the bag. I gotta get ready for work, so I’ll catch up later. Have a great morning

You are Ryan… have a good one.

Mrs.Ryan on 8/16/2006 at 11:30 am said:

LOL I tell him what he is everyday, he just doesn’t listen or believe it

LOL…we never do Mrs R….

yes bigshow I know, it gets infuriating

Mrs.Ryan on 8/16/2006 at 12:36 pm said:

yes bigshow I know, it gets infuriating

Just keep telling us, one day it may finally sink in….

In the meantime….eat lots of hot sauce….lol

locolunabrian on 8/16/2006 at 11:52 am said:

You are Ryan… have a good one.

Thanks for the clarification Brian…Being married to Mrs. R tends to make me want to be someone else and I forget who I was Love you honey

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/16/2006 at 2:21 pm said:

Thanks for the clarification Brian…Being married to Mrs. R tends to make me want to be someone else and I forget who I was Love you honey

Glad I can help! Be nice now:)

locolunabrian on 8/16/2006 at 2:37 pm said:

Glad I can help! Be nice now:)

I’m always nice!

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/16/2006 at 2:40 pm said:

I’m always nice!

maybe i missed something..is that nicepepper qraphix then? lol

thebigshow on 8/16/2006 at 2:45 pm said:

maybe i missed something..is that nicepepper qraphix then? lol

That’s my other, other job

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/16/2006 at 4:27 pm said:

That’s my other, other job

ahhhh….a man of many hats

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/16/2006 at 2:21 pm said:

Thanks for the clarification Brian…Being married to Mrs. R tends to make me want to be someone else and I forget who I was Love you honey

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