LMAO @ pick your gimmick!!!! Anthony your review as usual is wonderful thank you.

Mrs.Ryan on 8/13/2006 at 11:47 am said:

LMAO @ pick your gimmick!!!! Anthony your review as usual is wonderful thank you.

DOH! you said the “G” word…

Tracy C on 8/13/2006 at 12:01 pm said:

DOH! you said the “G” word…

Ya - time to grab the stick and starting beating the dead horse again. You know I was given a pile of gimmick sauce to review. For followers of the HSB over the years they know that it isn’t an HSB focus. Rather we thought there is some place for discussion about these sauces. After all this is the place for all hot food related products good and bad.

I actually like this label. Looks like a good sauce to carry into your local greasy spoon. Especially good to set on the table when you have that pesky waitress that checks on you after, whoops, “during” every bite. The label, along with the look on your face from eating the chili would scare anybody off! And what’s a trip to the greasy spoon without a good watery vinegar sauce. Besides, it’s got more kick than Tabasco, which is what’s gonna be on the table anyway.

DK on 8/13/2006 at 3:56 pm said:

I actually like this label. Looks like a good sauce to carry into your local greasy spoon. Especially good to set on the table when you have that pesky waitress that checks on you after, whoops, “during” every bite. The label, along with the look on your face from eating the chili would scare anybody off! And what’s a trip to the greasy spoon without a good watery vinegar sauce. Besides, it’s got more kick than Tabasco, which is what’s gonna be on the table anyway.

dk, very true! btw…does any hot sauce conniseur (sp?) like or even use tabasco? just curious?

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 3:58 pm said:

dk, very true! btw…does any hot sauce conniseur (sp?) like or even use tabasco? just curious?

Well, ………. No comment

lol…..i think i know how to take that “no comment” lol i just laugh when i ask for hot sauce and they bring me tabasco, so i’ve learned to ask for buffalo sauce, and you at least get frank’s then (for what that’s worth).

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 4:31 pm said:

lol…..i think i know how to take that “no comment” lol i just laugh when i ask for hot sauce and they bring me tabasco, so i’ve learned to ask for buffalo sauce, and you at least get frank’s then (for what that’s worth).

Confession of a Hot Sauce Freak

Forgive me for I have sinned:

I’ll be honest, I like Tabasco, but it just doesn’t have the heat I’m looking for most of the time. I grew up with Tabasco on the dinner table. If there was a bottle of Tabasco, Texas Pete, Frank’s, Crystal, Cholula, etc. side by side on the same table, I would pick up the Tabasco first. Just what I’m used to. But, just so ya know, I’m a vinegar nut. I can handle my vinegar better than my heat. So I never dismiss a sauce because of the vinegar content. But the more vinegar, the less choice of foods to use it with. Of course the greasy spoon is the best place for a vinegar sauce, if there is less than half a bottle of sauce on the table, I always make the waitress bring me another bottle. Everything on the plate is bright red in color by the time I’m done.

Whew, and I’m not even Catholic!

Ha, i believe we can all forgive you.

Personally the taste of Tabasco to me is pure vinegar. And I loved spicy stuff when I first started out but was stuck with Tabasco. I was was wondering (and this is a question for everyone): Does your ability to handle more hot sauce make you weak against sour stuff? I cant stand sour but I can douse my food with Blair’s but if you make me eat a lemon my mouth would pucker up instantle at the sight of it.

When i started getting seriously into hot sauce and my friends did too Daniel discovered the greatest “cheap table” sauce ever: El Yucateco. It is pretty prevalent here since (West Coast) because it’s made in Mexico. You can get it in any Carneceria.

I actually like Tabasco way better than Frank’s, and I really don’t like Tabasco much. I think Frank’s is about the worst general hot sauce out there. Poor flavor, and zero heat. I actually avoid wings in most joints becuase they use Frank’s with butter as their base.

At least Tabasco has a little bit of heat to it. And the fermented, vinegary flavor, on some food, is okay. I think water has more heat thank Frank’s.

DK on 8/13/2006 at 5:10 pm said:

Confession of a Hot Sauce Freak

Forgive me for I have sinned:

I’ll be honest, I like Tabasco, but it just doesn’t have the heat I’m looking for most of the time. I grew up with Tabasco on the dinner table. If there was a bottle of Tabasco, Texas Pete, Frank’s, Crystal, Cholula, etc. side by side on the same table, I would pick up the Tabasco first. Just what I’m used to. But, just so ya know, I’m a vinegar nut. I can handle my vinegar better than my heat. So I never dismiss a sauce because of the vinegar content. But the more vinegar, the less choice of foods to use it with. Of course the greasy spoon is the best place for a vinegar sauce, if there is less than half a bottle of sauce on the table, I always make the waitress bring me another bottle. Everything on the plate is bright red in color by the time I’m done.

Whew, and I’m not even Catholic!

clint on 8/13/2006 at 5:37 pm said:

Ha, i believe we can all forgive you.

Personally the taste of Tabasco to me is pure vinegar. And I loved spicy stuff when I first started out but was stuck with Tabasco. I was was wondering (and this is a question for everyone): Does your ability to handle more hot sauce make you weak against sour stuff? I cant stand sour but I can douse my food with Blair’s but if you make me eat a lemon my mouth would pucker up instantle at the sight of it.

When i started getting seriously into hot sauce and my friends did too Daniel discovered the greatest “cheap table” sauce ever: El Yucateco. It is pretty prevalent here since (West Coast) because it’s made in Mexico. You can get it in any Carneceria.

Have to agree with Clint, not a fan of the vinegar, nor tabasco. give me heat and flavor, leave the vinegar at the greasy the spoon.

DK on 8/13/2006 at 5:10 pm said:

Confession of a Hot Sauce Freak

Forgive me for I have sinned:

I’ll be honest, I like Tabasco, but it just doesn’t have the heat I’m looking for most of the time. I grew up with Tabasco on the dinner table. If there was a bottle of Tabasco, Texas Pete, Frank’s, Crystal, Cholula, etc. side by side on the same table, I would pick up the Tabasco first. Just what I’m used to. But, just so ya know, I’m a vinegar nut. I can handle my vinegar better than my heat. So I never dismiss a sauce because of the vinegar content. But the more vinegar, the less choice of foods to use it with. Of course the greasy spoon is the best place for a vinegar sauce, if there is less than half a bottle of sauce on the table, I always make the waitress bring me another bottle. Everything on the plate is bright red in color by the time I’m done.

Whew, and I’m not even Catholic!

As Anthony & Clinton can attest to the great flavors of my sauces, I myself use Tabasco, Cholua and Texas Petes. I was weaned on Tabasco on my biscuits and gravy and still love it, as a matter of fact I had it on my gravy over hash browns. Hashbrowns w/ onions, tomatoes, bacon, green peppers and mushrooms along with Steak and Eggs.
Cholua is good on pizza in a pinch and at breakfeat, while Texas Petes is great on Philly Cheese Steaks.
There are very few sauces that are great with every food, therefore the need to use what works best for your tastebuds!!
My opinion, I love spice and if it works for something I don’t care who makes it. I’m pleasing my culinary desires not anyone elses.

Scotty B

AMEN SCOTTY B!!!!!!!!! I don’t care what everyone else likes, I am not going to eat it if I don’t like it. Not everyone will agree on what their faves are or the reasons they like them, if they taste good TO ME I’ll eat them

Mrs.Ryan on 8/13/2006 at 9:07 pm said:

AMEN SCOTTY B!!!!!!!!! I don’t care what everyone else likes, I am not going to eat it if I don’t like it. Not everyone will agree on what their faves are or the reasons they like them, if they taste good TO ME I’ll eat them

i agree, everyone’s tastes are different. definately gettin my answer. i was just never a fan of the tabasco taste, and wanted to find out what others thought. i will say their habanero, is considerably better than the regular.

Hey Hey everyone! How are you all tonight.

Vic on 8/13/2006 at 9:34 pm said:

Hey Hey everyone! How are you all tonight.

Hey Vic, how goes it?

Hello Vic!

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 9:58 pm said:

Hey Vic, how goes it?

DK on 8/13/2006 at 10:00 pm said:

Hello Vic!

Hey, doing well, had crappy weather here in FL all day, sat around the house doing housework and eatin’ junk food- good times!

Vic on 8/13/2006 at 10:02 pm said:

Hey, doing well, had crappy weather here in FL all day, sat around the house doing housework and eatin’ junk food- good times!

lol, you should have been up here for defcon day last nite. in the low 70s, alot of free wings with defcon sauce. and plenty of beer flowing.

what’s up dk

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 10:05 pm said:

lol, you should have been up here for defcon day last nite. in the low 70s, alot of free wings with defcon sauce. and plenty of beer flowing.

what’s up dk

Unfortunately, some of us had to leave early

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 10:05 pm said:

lol, you should have been up here for defcon day last nite. in the low 70s, alot of free wings with defcon sauce. and plenty of beer flowing.

what’s up dk

Man, I would have loved to have been there!

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 10:05 pm said:

lol, you should have been up here for defcon day last nite. in the low 70s, alot of free wings with defcon sauce. and plenty of beer flowing.

what’s up dk

Hey, I,m back. Power went out for a few. Guess it’s the cool weather we’re having.

huvason on 8/13/2006 at 10:11 pm said:

Unfortunately, some of us had to leave early

Its all good Huv, besides you made it, and got a special treat too

Vic on 8/13/2006 at 10:18 pm said:

Man, I would have loved to have been there!

I know it’s tough, living in florida, are you going to ZF? This collector badge thing is gonna be really nice for everyone.

DK on 8/13/2006 at 10:45 pm said:

Hey, I,m back. Power went out for a few. Guess it’s the cool weather we’re having.

Welcome back.

thebigshow on 8/13/2006 at 11:00 pm said:

I know it’s tough, living in florida, are you going to ZF? This collector badge thing is gonna be really nice for everyone.

Yes we are, I actually sent my e-mail to Pam tonight about it.

Scotty B’s Hot Sauces on 8/13/2006 at 8:58 pm said:

As Anthony & Clinton can attest to the great flavors of my sauces, I myself use Tabasco, Cholua and Texas Petes. I was weaned on Tabasco on my biscuits and gravy and still love it, as a matter of fact I had it on my gravy over hash browns. Hashbrowns w/ onions, tomatoes, bacon, green peppers and mushrooms along with Steak and Eggs.
Cholua is good on pizza in a pinch and at breakfeat, while Texas Petes is great on Philly Cheese Steaks.
There are very few sauces that are great with every food, therefore the need to use what works best for your tastebuds!!
My opinion, I love spice and if it works for something I don’t care who makes it. I’m pleasing my culinary desires not anyone elses.

Scotty B

Well said Scotty. Many of us are here because of Tabasco whether we admit it or not. I personally started from chili flakes on pasta as a child. Even though no one in my family has the chili-bite I guess having a father as a Chef and making sure all ingredients and condiments were available was a definate asset. We all the got the bite from somewhere. I think you just gave me a great idea for one of my next articles!

Vic on 8/13/2006 at 11:03 pm said:

Yes we are, I actually sent my e-mail to Pam tonight about it.

I’m still waiting on confirmation about my registration, but I’ll be there. Reservations already made!

Vic on 8/13/2006 at 11:03 pm said:

Yes we are, I actually sent my e-mail to Pam tonight about it.

WOOOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!!!! yay Vic and Wendy I am so excited your going

Tabasco is 7% pepper solids…
Pepper infused vinegar + salt, I still eat it because that’s what most places carry as hot sauce. It is a building block to what we like today. It has been around longer than most of us!

i agree Cajohn and no gimmicks ahhh a gimmickless sauce…and has been around a long long time

Tabasco has a logo. That’s a gimmick. Their old style cologne bottle. That’s a gimmick. Need I go on?

someday the truth will be known and everyone will realize everything and everybody has a gimmick

Gimmicks are good

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 10:49 am said:

someday the truth will be known and everyone will realize everything and everybody has a gimmick

Gimmicks are good

No pun intended…

tabasco???? and the gimmicks is? my point guys is this if you have a great product you dont need a gimmick. your product will speak for itself.these sauces that people are putting out are 100 % gimmick in hopes of just selling a few bottles to the people they know.I can see by the comments that you guys leave that you do buy bottles of sauce cause you like the lables only,,or they are nice to you ,.not cause the sauce is good.and that is your god given right Soooo happy collecting..oh an by the way the truth will come out sooon very soon hope to see you guys at my booth in texas looking foward to meeting all of you inperson

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:14 am said:

tabasco???? and the gimmicks is? my point guys is this if you have a great product you dont need a gimmick. your product will speak for itself.these sauces that people are putting out are 100 % gimmick in hopes of just selling a few bottles to the people they know.I can see by the comments that you guys leave that you do buy bottles of sauce cause you like the lables only,,or they are nice to you ,.not cause the sauce is good.and that is your god given right Soooo happy collecting..oh an by the way the truth will come out sooon very soon hope to see you guys at my booth in texas looking foward to meeting all of you inperson

Hmmmm, are ya gonna tell what booth it is BEFORE it starts? I think a good name and label for a hot sauce would be (imagine this) Just the words “Hot Sauce” on a black and white label. Has that been done yet? Might be too much of a gimmick though. Just playinng with ya “the truth”.

good idea scotty too hottie…..but lets see maybe i will come up with something…maybe the first one to find the truth sticker will win free product

tell me ryan with all your ideas do you guys have a product your selling

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:41 am said:

tell me ryan with all your ideas do you guys have a product your selling

This ought to be good. Ryan, well he ummm….nah, I’ll let Ryan tell ya!

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:14 am said:

tabasco???? and the gimmicks is? my point guys is this if you have a great product you dont need a gimmick. your product will speak for itself.these sauces that people are putting out are 100 % gimmick in hopes of just selling a few bottles to the people they know.I can see by the comments that you guys leave that you do buy bottles of sauce cause you like the lables only,,or they are nice to you ,.not cause the sauce is good.and that is your god given right Soooo happy collecting..oh an by the way the truth will come out sooon very soon hope to see you guys at my booth in texas looking foward to meeting all of you inperson

I agree that quality speaks for itself, but a gimmick in its most pure sense is nothing more than marketing. ALL high quality products (whether hot sauce, cars, computers, whatever) do marketing of one sort or another. There is nothing wrong with a gimmick, so long as it is not deceptive and hopefully has something to do with the product.

A gimmick is just a way of attracting attention in a crowded, competitive market. Gimmicks/marketing are great for generating initial buzz; customer satisfaction creates repeat purchasing.

DK on 8/14/2006 at 11:46 am said:

This ought to be good. Ryan, well he ummm….nah, I’ll let Ryan tell ya!

did you take that to as an attack dk? like i said he has alot of good ideas like to know more.. so dk relax

locolunabrian on 8/14/2006 at 12:02 pm said:

I agree that quality speaks for itself, but a gimmick in its most pure sense is nothing more than marketing. ALL high quality products (whether hot sauce, cars, computers, whatever) do marketing of one sort or another. There is nothing wrong with a gimmick, so long as it is not deceptive and hopefully has something to do with the product.

A gimmick is just a way of attracting attention in a crowded, competitive market. Gimmicks/marketing are great for generating initial buzz; customer satisfaction creates repeat purchasing.

Amen…

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:41 am said:

tell me ryan with all your ideas do you guys have a product your selling

Don’t worry, I didn’t take that as an attack. Yes, there is a product soon to hit the shelves. Its my wife’s sauce, I designed the label for the sauce, and the logo for the company that will be marketing it. The HSU bottles (seen here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&item=160018675556&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 ) was a collaborative effort between me, Tracy C., Chris K, and Eman. Personally I’m not into the selling of sauces, as I have no time for it, and don’t want to jump through the hoops of getting it out there. I have an offer to co-brand a sauce, but haven’t yet decided whether or not I want to do it. We’ll see I guess. I do understand your stance on tabasclo though. Its a pretty basic bottle.

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 12:02 pm said:

did you take that to as an attack dk? like i said he has alot of good ideas like to know more.. so dk relax

Oh, I’m relaxed, always relaxed on the HSB. Didn’t take your comment as an attack. It’s all good. I’m one the easiest going people on here. I’m not busting your chops, I just about spit my coffee all over my monitor when I read your question was all. You’ll see what I meant when Ryan answers ya.

Got a question for you truth. You & I are on the same page about a lot of stuff, so please answer me this: you are shown a shelf with six bottles of hot sauce. Without opening them, how do you pick which one you want to try first?

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 2:04 pm said:

Got a question for you truth. You & I are on the same page about a lot of stuff, so please answer me this: you are shown a shelf with six bottles of hot sauce. Without opening them, how do you pick which one you want to try first?

Blindfolded?

CaJohn on 8/14/2006 at 1:11 am said:

Tabasco is 7% pepper solids…
Pepper infused vinegar + salt, I still eat it because that’s what most places carry as hot sauce. It is a building block to what we like today. It has been around longer than most of us!

CaJohn I agree, i still use it if there’s nothing else, but it is definately a last resort for me.

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 10:47 am said:

Tabasco has a logo. That’s a gimmick. Their old style cologne bottle. That’s a gimmick. Need I go on?

No need Ryan, most of us get it. They’re current gimmick is the fact they’ve been around so long and have an established name.

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:14 am said:

tabasco???? and the gimmicks is? my point guys is this if you have a great product you dont need a gimmick. your product will speak for itself.these sauces that people are putting out are 100 % gimmick in hopes of just selling a few bottles to the people they know.I can see by the comments that you guys leave that you do buy bottles of sauce cause you like the lables only,,or they are nice to you ,.not cause the sauce is good.and that is your god given right Soooo happy collecting..oh an by the way the truth will come out sooon very soon hope to see you guys at my booth in texas looking foward to meeting all of you inperson

Truth, I agree that a good sauce will sell itself, but how do you get that first sell without a gimmick? How do you get someone to try the sauce so they know it is good? You could give away samples or even bottles, but isn;t that a gimmic in itself? And I also agree alot of sauces out there only sell the once because of the gimmick. So I think the gimmick works both ways, some to help first sell the product and the other is the only reason the product sells. Hope this makes sense.

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:36 am said:

good idea scotty too hottie…..but lets see maybe i will come up with something…maybe the first one to find the truth sticker will win free product

good idea Truth, some clues to find the Truth booth. But is that a gimmick? LOL…just kidding…

locolunabrian on 8/14/2006 at 12:02 pm said:

I agree that quality speaks for itself, but a gimmick in its most pure sense is nothing more than marketing. ALL high quality products (whether hot sauce, cars, computers, whatever) do marketing of one sort or another. There is nothing wrong with a gimmick, so long as it is not deceptive and hopefully has something to do with the product.

A gimmick is just a way of attracting attention in a crowded, competitive market. Gimmicks/marketing are great for generating initial buzz; customer satisfaction creates repeat purchasing.

excellent brian, even just to keep the name in head. “I’m getting a Dell dude!”

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 2:04 pm said:

Got a question for you truth. You & I are on the same page about a lot of stuff, so please answer me this: you are shown a shelf with six bottles of hot sauce. Without opening them, how do you pick which one you want to try first?

Eenie, Meenie, Minie, Moe!!! Hey Moe!! Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck…lol

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:39 pm said:

Truth, I agree that a good sauce will sell itself, but how do you get that first sell without a gimmick? How do you get someone to try the sauce so they know it is good? You could give away samples or even bottles, but isn;t that a gimmic in itself? And I also agree alot of sauces out there only sell the once because of the gimmick. So I think the gimmick works both ways, some to help first sell the product and the other is the only reason the product sells. Hope this makes sense.

big i have spent alot of time and money on test marketing sauces so i think that before you dump alot of money into a label you should know if you have a good product or not as for sample bottles being a gimmick i dont think so cause again i have sent out thousands of 1 oz bottles to get feed back before i went ahead and made up lables.getting peoples thoughts on how good your products is is very important rather than makeing a product and hope it will sell based on a label again i think that taste is way more inportant than a label if you want to put out a great product

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:44 pm said:

excellent brian, even just to keep the name in head. “I’m getting a Dell dude!”

are you saying that you hope the label will bring in repeat buss. or the product will?

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 12:37 pm said:

Amen…

Don’t worry, I didn’t take that as an attack. Yes, there is a product soon to hit the shelves. Its my wife’s sauce, I designed the label for the sauce, and the logo for the company that will be marketing it. The HSU bottles (seen here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&item=160018675556&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 ) was a collaborative effort between me, Tracy C., Chris K, and Eman. Personally I’m not into the selling of sauces, as I have no time for it, and don’t want to jump through the hoops of getting it out there. I have an offer to co-brand a sauce, but haven’t yet decided whether or not I want to do it. We’ll see I guess. I do understand your stance on tabasclo though. Its a pretty basic bottle.

Ryan those are some of the coolest labels that i have seen good work

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:46 pm said:

Eenie, Meenie, Minie, Moe!!! Hey Moe!! Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck…lol

for me i alway look for something simple and try it first just me

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:39 pm said:

Truth, I agree that a good sauce will sell itself, but how do you get that first sell without a gimmick? How do you get someone to try the sauce so they know it is good? You could give away samples or even bottles, but isn;t that a gimmic in itself? And I also agree alot of sauces out there only sell the once because of the gimmick. So I think the gimmick works both ways, some to help first sell the product and the other is the only reason the product sells. Hope this makes sense.

big i have spent alot of time and money on test marketing sauces so i think that before you dump alot of money into a label you should know if you have a good product or not as for sample bottles being a gimmick i dont think so cause again i have sent out thousands of 1 oz bottles to get feed back before i went ahead and made up lables.getting peoples thoughts on how good your products is is very important rather than makeing a product and hope it will sell based on a label again i think that taste is way more inportant than a label if you want to put out a great product

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:44 pm said:

excellent brian, even just to keep the name in head. “I’m getting a Dell dude!”

are you saying that you hope the label will bring in repeat buss. or the product will?

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 12:37 pm said:

Amen…

Don’t worry, I didn’t take that as an attack. Yes, there is a product soon to hit the shelves. Its my wife’s sauce, I designed the label for the sauce, and the logo for the company that will be marketing it. The HSU bottles (seen here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&item=160018675556&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 ) was a collaborative effort between me, Tracy C., Chris K, and Eman. Personally I’m not into the selling of sauces, as I have no time for it, and don’t want to jump through the hoops of getting it out there. I have an offer to co-brand a sauce, but haven’t yet decided whether or not I want to do it. We’ll see I guess. I do understand your stance on tabasclo though. Its a pretty basic bottle.

Ryan those are some of the coolest labels that i have seen good work

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:46 pm said:

Eenie, Meenie, Minie, Moe!!! Hey Moe!! Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck Nyuck…lol

for me i alway look for something simple and try it first just me

big im up for giving some clues any suggestion how to go about it

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 4:22 pm said:

big i have spent alot of time and money on test marketing sauces so i think that before you dump alot of money into a label you should know if you have a good product or not as for sample bottles being a gimmick i dont think so cause again i have sent out thousands of 1 oz bottles to get feed back before i went ahead and made up lables.getting peoples thoughts on how good your products is is very important rather than makeing a product and hope it will sell based on a label again i think that taste is way more inportant than a label if you want to put out a great product
are you saying that you hope the label will bring in repeat buss. or the product will?

Ryan those are some of the coolest labels that i have seen good work

for me i alway look for something simple and try it first just me

Truth, yes I agree, the product will bring in the repeat business, i’m gonna go back and buy more sauce for the taste and heat, not what the label says. but once you get your product to be the best, how do you get people to try it? don’t you want a label that will catch their eye? or hand out free sample bottles at ZF?

I think we’re all agreeing here really, just differences in definition. to me any marketing is really a form of gimmick, i think (i may be wrong) when you say gimmick, you mean the cartoonish or novelty labels (A$$ in the tub, fire in the hole, etc…).

no, i don’t think the label will bring it repeat business, i think the product will bring in the repeat business. but i do think you can use a catch phrase(gimmick) to keep your name in someones head. i used Dell as an example, there are alot of computer companies out there, but don’t think their catch phrase, works just keep their name in your head? you’re still only going to be a repeat customer of you like their product.

i really do think in general we’re in the same page, just maybe a disagreement on the use of certain words. hope this clarifies more.

and btw…look forward to meeting you and trying your sauces at ZF.

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 4:27 pm said:

big im up for giving some clues any suggestion how to go about it

i have to go to work, but I’ll be back a little later. let me think on that while I work. do you know where you’re booth is located at already? who’s on either side of you? what your aisle # is, stuff like that? is there a place where we can get a map ahead of time too. send me an e-mail, and we can think about this more. the big show 823 “at” yahoo “dot” com

“Ryan those are some of the coolest labels that i have seen good work”

Thanks Truth. Have to give credit to CaJohn for the Houston one. He’s the one that came up with the title and helped me do the fine tuning.

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 11:13 am said:

No pun intended…

I don’t do puns LOL

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:41 am said:

tell me ryan with all your ideas do you guys have a product your selling

asn a matter of fact the answer is yes and IT’S FULL OF FREAKIN GIMMICKS AND I LOVE IT.

have a nice day

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 2:41 pm said:

good idea Truth, some clues to find the Truth booth. But is that a gimmick? LOL…just kidding…

OMG yes it’s a gimmick. he isn’t above it.

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 7:17 pm said:

OMG yes it’s a gimmick. he isn’t above it.

Here we go…

This has actually been an interesting read. I can respect all of the angles in which it seems people take on marketing a sauce. I personally have more respect for a maker that promotes a great sauce and classy label, verses one that just slaps a vulgar label on some crap sauce. I also think that a sauce manufacturers budget plays a big part in how their product is introduced to the consumer. All companies to some degree give out samples to promote their product. It seems that Truth must have a huge budget in order to give out thousands of samples. And thats really cool if you can do that. Most folks that I know that are start ups, are everyday working blue collar workers that support a family and make huge sacrifices in order to just get out a few cases of samples, and in this case, rely heavily on the initial hook that a well thought out label provides. Everybody likes a FREE sample, but when a consumer has to make a blind decision while a the market, the label will win. Then it’s the sauce that keeps ‘em coming back..

the truth on 8/14/2006 at 11:14 am said:

tabasco???? and the gimmicks is? my point guys is this if you have a great product you dont need a gimmick. your product will speak for itself.these sauces that people are putting out are 100 % gimmick in hopes of just selling a few bottles to the people they know.I can see by the comments that you guys leave that you do buy bottles of sauce cause you like the lables only,,or they are nice to you ,.not cause the sauce is good.and that is your god given right Soooo happy collecting..oh an by the way the truth will come out sooon very soon hope to see you guys at my booth in texas looking foward to meeting all of you inperson

I am speaking for my self here and noone else. I am having a hard time with the fact that a manufacturer is hiding behind another name and stirring carp, if you can’t stir it under the name your known for then you shouldn’t be stirring it. whoever you happen to be, whether I ever find out or not, I have zero respect for phony bologna carp like this

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 7:34 pm said:

I am speaking for my self here and noone else. I am having a hard time with the fact that a manufacturer is hiding behind another name and stirring carp, if you can’t stir it under the name your known for then you shouldn’t be stirring it. whoever you happen to be, whether I ever find out or not, I have zero respect for phony bologna carp like this

I don’t know- I think it’s a pretty good gimmick If I had the time or inclination it might be a way of expressing a POV a bit more drmatically. Truth doesn’t seem to be the only one with a split personality around here

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 7:45 pm said:

I don’t know- I think it’s a pretty good gimmick If I had the time or inclination it might be a way of expressing a POV a bit more drmatically. Truth doesn’t seem to be the only one with a split personality around here

Hey you leave Myself and I out of this and deal with ME, buddy

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 7:45 pm said:

I don’t know- I think it’s a pretty good gimmick If I had the time or inclination it might be a way of expressing a POV a bit more drmatically. Truth doesn’t seem to be the only one with a split personality around here

Or were you speaking of the Clint/Nick thing? Yeah, that’s pretty sick…

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 7:51 pm said:

Hey you leave Myself and I out of this and deal with ME, buddy

If we could just figure out who the ‘real you’ is

And on another note. $102.50? I didn’t not slave away for hours that I could have spent with my family only to see that two of my works, plus some other sauces that are pretty cool too, go for only $102.50. Pull out those pocket books and donate some money dammit! Its not like any of the money is going to me, its going to charity. If these bottles had “Blair” written on them, you’d be forking over a grand or more! Support Jim and your collection…BID I tell you, BID!!!!!!!!

This message brought to you buy: People that support Jim’s charity dealings and other stuff like that.

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 7:56 pm said:

If we could just figure out who the ‘real you’ is

You’ll find out at ZF

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 7:52 pm said:

Or were you speaking of the Clint/Nick thing? Yeah, that’s pretty sick…

Don’t forget Bret and Leroy!

Truth, my mantra has always been “it’s not what’s on it, it’s what’s in it” but they won’t get to the ‘what’s in it’ part without first getting past (or attracted!) by the ‘what’s on it’. Case in point- my Ralphs’ Righteous is a pretty upstanding habanero sauce. Probably one of the hottest non-extract ones out there. I used to have a home printed label, very simple, very plain, nothing fancy. I was laughed out of Albuquerque the first year I had it (by even the general public!) and that’s despite sampling it so that they knew it was top notch. I endlessly heard ‘great sauce- too bad it doesn’t have a better label’. When that comes from the general public- we won’t even get into what the distributors said - it was time to take heed. A couple of label changes later and voila- same identical sauce and triple (or more) the sales.

I wish it *were* as simple as putting a great sauce in a bottle and it selling itself! No one wishes it more since I don’t have a ’sales’ personality! Sigh… that just isn’t the way the world works, except for small pockets like here on the blog.

Ryan@angrypepper on 8/14/2006 at 7:58 pm said:

You’ll find out at ZF

Lookin’ forward to it…. I think

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 7:45 pm said:

I don’t know- I think it’s a pretty good gimmick If I had the time or inclination it might be a way of expressing a POV a bit more drmatically. Truth doesn’t seem to be the only one with a split personality around here

I only have one personslity, mine, but I can have 2 if you give me yours

DK on 8/14/2006 at 8:02 pm said:

Don’t forget Bret and Leroy!

OR DK AND BUBBA

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 8:08 pm said:

OR DK AND BUBBA

You got me! Bubba’s just an expression of my feminine side!

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 8:07 pm said:

I only have one personslity, mine, but I can have 2 if you give me yours

You’d still only have one- I’m pretty boring in real life Just lucky that I type/write good

DK on 8/14/2006 at 8:13 pm said:

You got me! Bubba’s just an expression of my feminine side!

ROFL!!!

Jim Campbell- StepUpForCharity.org on 8/14/2006 at 8:13 pm said:

You’d still only have one- I’m pretty boring in real life Just lucky that I type/write good

ehhhh, why do i doubt that you are boring in real life?

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 8:24 pm said:

ROFL!!!

ehhhh, why do i doubt that you are boring in real life?

Because you haven’t MET me

Night all!

What many of us are getting to is called PERCEPTION. A good label or good marketing campaign creates the perception of a quality product. For most peoole, a crap label tells them that the product is crap before they even try it. This perception can color the reality of the product experience even when actually used and the consumer no longer has to rely on perception alone. That is why companies invest millions in advertising, market research, packaging and promotion.

So again I say, quality is key and that is what will keep customers coming back, but you’ve got to get them to try it the first time. If you truly believe in the quality of your sauce, why create additional obstacles for your product? In an idealist world, perception should not matter, but in the real world it makes a huge difference for a large segment of the buying public.

locolunabrian on 8/14/2006 at 9:18 pm said:

What many of us are getting to is called PERCEPTION. A good label or good marketing campaign creates the perception of a quality product. For most peoole, a crap label tells them that the product is crap before they even try it. This perception can color the reality of the product experience even when actually used and the consumer no longer has to rely on perception alone. That is why companies invest millions in advertising, market research, packaging and promotion.

So again I say, quality is key and that is what will keep customers coming back, but you’ve got to get them to try it the first time. If you truly believe in the quality of your sauce, why create additional obstacles for your product? In an idealist world, perception should not matter, but in the real world it makes a huge difference for a large segment of the buying public.

well Brian got to “the truth” of things ha ha hahahahaha i crack myself up.

Tracy C on 8/14/2006 at 7:30 pm said:

This has actually been an interesting read. I can respect all of the angles in which it seems people take on marketing a sauce. I personally have more respect for a maker that promotes a great sauce and classy label, verses one that just slaps a vulgar label on some crap sauce. I also think that a sauce manufacturers budget plays a big part in how their product is introduced to the consumer. All companies to some degree give out samples to promote their product. It seems that Truth must have a huge budget in order to give out thousands of samples. And thats really cool if you can do that. Most folks that I know that are start ups, are everyday working blue collar workers that support a family and make huge sacrifices in order to just get out a few cases of samples, and in this case, rely heavily on the initial hook that a well thought out label provides. Everybody likes a FREE sample, but when a consumer has to make a blind decision while a the market, the label will win. Then it’s the sauce that keeps ‘em coming back..

ummm tracy can i just say “DITTO”

Mrs.Ryan on 8/14/2006 at 9:24 pm said:

well Brian got to “the truth” of things ha ha hahahahaha i crack myself up.

We are all amused:)

locolunabrian on 8/14/2006 at 10:27 pm said:

We are all amused:)

A Muse: goddess who embodies the right evocation of myth, inspired through remembered and improvised song and traditional music and dances.

Not me, I’m just a smart a$$ redneck trying to get a cheap laugh!

DK on 8/14/2006 at 10:36 pm said:

A Muse: goddess who embodies the right evocation of myth, inspired through remembered and improvised song and traditional music and dances.

Not me, I’m just a smart a$$ redneck trying to get a cheap laugh!

DK, youo can put Smart and Redneck in the same sentence, what were you thinking? LOL

thebigshow on 8/14/2006 at 10:38