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Review: Fat Kid Sauces - Habanero HOT
Posted on 11.09.06 by Anthony @ 8:19 am | Comments: |
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Fat Kid Sauces - Habanero HOT

If anything, I have to give our very own Huvason credit for this sauce. He has, for the lack of a family friendly word, the peppers to venture out and create his own hot sauce. I will say straight off the bat that this isn’t this greatest sauce you have tried but it isn’t bad either. Let’s just say it lacks character.

Visually the sauce is stunning. It is jam packed with pieces, bits, and shrapnel of ingredients and looks to be quite potent. On a shelf from 5 feet away I couldn’t pick this out of anything and that kind of sums of this sauce in the taste department as well. Looks can be deceiving.

Ingredients: Tomato, Habanero, Bell Pepper, Red Wine Vinegar, Onion, Garlic, Herbs & Spices

For a new sauce I think the name Fat Kid Sauces is great. Like I said the sauce inside the bottle looks freaking amazing.

Taste wise here you are getting a good sauce. Not great, not bad, but good. It is obvious the maker knows what he is doing here and he has done it well. It is also obvious that he doesn’t have the experience of a Danny Cash or a Scotty B. That being I said I give him much credit for releasing a very admirable hot sauce on the first go.

Fat Kid Sauces - Habanero HOT

It took forever to get this sauce to pour and it hadn’t even been in the fridge yet. The field taste was simple enough, nachos and cheese. And my chilihead neighbour and I both agreed that this just got lost in the taste department. It needs something, some oomph to come into its own. I was expecting big things from this sauce but maybe that was due to the anticipation. I tried it again a few days after on a chicken sandwich and there was some flavour, but again, nothing to discernable to make me go WOW!

The heat was good. A medium at best but I am pretty sure that was what was intended. It is versatile enough for most chili-heads to be satisfied.

I know there has been a lot of push for this sauce and the sauce itself is good enough to warrant it. What it needs is just some retooling and maybe less of a rush to get it out the door.

Packaging 5/10 - shrink wrap band was badly warped, cuts the professionalism of the bottle down
Aroma 8.0/10 – Pleasant and warm
Appearance 10/10 – The appearance of this sauce is stunning
Taste 6.8/10 – sauce gets lost in food – not bad at all
Heat 5/10 – medium

Overall 6.9/10 – Potential here for a great sauce – keep working on it

** Editor’s Note ** This review is of an initial run bottle accuired before some recipe re-tooling was done. Another review will be done on the latest version as soon as it’s available.
From Huv: Recipe has always been the “same” Not sure when you first had, but I’ve tightened the recipe (i.e. everything is now weighed. Back in the “day” I would just use “8 tomatoes”). Also some minor tweaks in the heat level (actually made it a bit milder over time). The big thing would be the Vinegar in it. Trying to balance the required PH levels with the proper consistancy for pouring. Since it isnt primarily a vinegar based sauce, it is alot thicker (as you know), than a lot out there. So I had to use the Vinegar to make it pourable without being runnny. It think the latest incarnation achieves this better than I had previously.

Since she won the scovie,the formula is “frozen” now. I am working on co-packing now, so i’ll obviously have to make sure the co-packed version comes out the same.

1st Place Scovie Winner

Fat Kid Sauces
Sayville, NY 11782
631-278-3176
www.fatkidsauces.com

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186 Comments »

Comment #1:
Comment by Daniel (269) - 11/9/2006 @ 9:37 am | [ Quote ]

Looks about the consistency of the salsa/sauce I make. Looks very chip-able.

Comment #2:
Comment by Ryan@angrypepper (2615) - 11/9/2006 @ 10:10 am | [ Quote ]

The consistency does make it difficult to poor, but I like the stuff. Definitely different from the usual. I could equate it to a spicy marinara sauce, which I have found many practiclal appliations. Not that I haven’t said it before, but good job Huv.

Comment #3:
Comment by Mrs.Ryan (2181) - 11/9/2006 @ 10:26 am | [ Quote ]

you rawk Huv!!!

Comment #4:
Comment by Scotty B's Hot Sauces (150) - 11/9/2006 @ 10:37 am | [ Quote ]

Sonja,

Get your package yet? Shirt is for Ryan

Let me know

Scotty B

Comment #5:
Comment by Scotty B's Hot Sauces (150) - 11/9/2006 @ 10:39 am | [ Quote ]

Great Job Huv!!

Keep up the good work

And again congrats on the award

Scotty B

Comment #6:
Comment by Lee@DC (643) - 11/9/2006 @ 10:43 am | [ Quote ]

Scotty B’s Hot Sauces on 11/9/2006 at 10:37 am said:

Sonja,

Get your package yet? Shirt is for Ryan

Let me know

Scotty B

Hey Scotty, where’d you find a shirt sized “extra-skinny”? Kidding Ryan- how’s it going out west?

Comment #7:
Comment by DK (2439) - 11/9/2006 @ 11:06 am | [ Quote ]

This is one of my favorite sauces. Mainly because of it being so different from the norm. Great flavor, especially when heaped onto mexican food. Very versatile and goes well on practically anything. Huv, great job man. Great sauce from a great guy.

Oh, I need to tell ya, that quart jar really solved the pour issue for me! ;) That big mouth sucker pours like a dream! :lol:

Comment #8:
Comment by Jodie (1079) - 11/9/2006 @ 11:19 am | [ Quote ]

I can’t say anything but FAT KID SAUCES! WOOHOO!!!! I haven’t had any as of yet, so I will have to take your word for it DK.

Comment #9:
Comment by Bret (2983) - 11/9/2006 @ 12:02 pm | [ Quote ]

FKS …I was trying to come with something off the wall But all I can say is nice Job around. Bigshow how is the ext hot. He handles everything over Med for me.

Comment #10:
Comment by Uncle Big (558) - 11/9/2006 @ 12:10 pm | [ Quote ]

Lee@DC on 11/9/2006 at 10:43 am said:

Hey Scotty, where’d you find a shirt sized “extra-skinny”? Kidding Ryan- how’s it going out west?

Lee, how’s my order coming?? Ready to pickup or what??
Uncle Big needs his DC!!
Ciao
Big

Comment #11:
Comment by kristi (1284) - 11/9/2006 @ 2:03 pm | [ Quote ]

Scotty B’s Hot Sauces on 11/9/2006 at 10:37 am said:

Sonja,

Get your package yet? Shirt is for Ryan

Let me know

Scotty B

And Scotty its SANYO, geez, come on people work with me! lol

Hows everyone doing today?

Comment #12:
Comment by Ryan@angrypepper (2615) - 11/9/2006 @ 2:34 pm | [ Quote ]

Lee@DC on 11/9/2006 at 10:43 am said:

Hey Scotty, where’d you find a shirt sized “extra-skinny”? Kidding Ryan- how’s it going out west?

Har har har :-P actually, could fit two of me in there, maybe three!

Thanks for the shirt Scotty, had no idea that was for me. Figured it was for Sonia since she’s much prettier to look at than I.

Comment #13:
Comment by Lee@DC (643) - 11/9/2006 @ 2:38 pm | [ Quote ]

Uncle Big on 11/9/2006 at 12:10 pm said:

Lee, how’s my order coming?? Ready to pickup or what??
Uncle Big needs his DC!!
Ciao
Big

Big, we accidentally sent it to Mexico. Sorry dude, the peppers wanted to go home, they had their bags packed, so we sent them home….

Comment #14:
Comment by Ryan@angrypepper (2615) - 11/9/2006 @ 3:07 pm | [ Quote ]

kristi on 11/9/2006 at 2:03 pm said:

And Scotty its SANYO, geez, come on people work with me! lol

Hows everyone doing today?

Busy as all hell! Today has not been a good day :evil:

Comment #15:
Comment by Ryan@angrypepper (2615) - 11/9/2006 @ 3:20 pm | [ Quote ]

Lee@DC on 11/9/2006 at 2:38 pm said:

Big, we accidentally sent it to Mexico. Sorry dude, the peppers wanted to go home, they had their bags packed, so we sent them home….

That’s the biggest lie I’ve ever heard! NOTHING out of Mexico ever wants to go back… except tourists :-P

Comment #16:
Comment by TheBigShow (1870) - 11/9/2006 @ 3:27 pm | [ Quote ]

Bret on 11/9/2006 at 12:02 pm said:

FKS …I was trying to come with something off the wall But all I can say is nice Job around. Bigshow how is the ext hot. He handles everything over Med for me.

well all i can say is…..it’s one of the better sauces out there! a nice wide variety of heat levels, a totally different look, and a nice unique flavoring. i’ve given this sauce to several people, and everyone has said how great it was, and either reordered from me, or direct from FKS. my only con against it personally, but i seem to see it popping up now on other suaces too, is that the label for all 4 heat levels is the same other than coloration differences, which at fist glance is not noticable. and if you don’t know the colors you have to find the little heat scale to know what you’re getting. if i had to rate it, overall it would be between 9.0 and 9.5 But seeing as i know Huv, i’m going to have to make that a 4.5 at best. LOL… JK big man, still waiting on my big jars though :)

Comment #17:
Comment by Tracy C (1312) - 11/9/2006 @ 4:04 pm | [ Quote ]

I Luv the Fat Kid Sauces!
Huv you deserve the Scovie. Full time job, dedicated family man, burnin the midnight oil in developing your products, and an all around great guy. Sorry to hear that yer a yankee, but you can overcome that if you try. Two thumbs up from me and the Mrs!!

Comment #18:
Comment by DK (2439) - 11/9/2006 @ 4:30 pm | [ Quote ]

Tracy C on 11/9/2006 at 4:04 pm said:

I Luv the Fat Kid Sauces!
Huv you deserve the Scovie. Full time job, dedicated family man, burnin the midnight oil in developing your products, and an all around great guy. Sorry to hear that yer a yankee, but you can overcome that if you try. Two thumbs up from me and the Mrs!!

Cap’n Bones, whats up man!

Wait, gotta get back on topic, Fat Kid Sauces!! Woooooohooooo! :)

Comment #19:
Comment by Ryan@angrypepper (2615) - 11/9/2006 @ 4:41 pm | [ Quote ]

“my only con against it personally, but i seem to see it popping up now on other suaces too, is that the label for all 4 heat levels is the same other than coloration differences, which at fist glance is not noticable. and if you don’t know the colors you have to find the little heat scale to know what you’re getting.”

…I’ll be taking these labels off my site now :-P

Comment #20:
Comment by TheBigShow (1870) - 11/9/2006 @ 4:49 pm | [ Quote ]

Ryan@angrypepper on 11/9/2006 at 4:41 pm said:

“my only con against it personally, but i seem to see it popping up now on other suaces too, is that the label for all 4 heat levels is the same other than coloration differences, which at fist glance is not noticable. and if you don’t know the colors you have to find the little heat scale to know what you’re getting.”

…I’ll be taking these labels off my site now :-P

LOL….. what’s up Ryan. You did a great job on them, as always. But you still suck!!! (dont want you feeling to good). lol

Comment #21:
Comment by Ryan@angrypepper (2615) - 11/9/2006 @ 5:32 pm | [ Quote ]

TheBigShow on 11/9/2006 at 4:49 pm said:

LOL….. what’s up Ryan. You did a great job on them, as always. But you still suck!!! (dont want you feeling to good). lol

Nothing much Biguns. Just busting my ass while my boss is in Mexico soaking up the sun, drinking himself into oblician and checking beautiful women in bikinis…life is grand! How you doin?

Comment #22:
Comment by Ryan@angrypepper (2615) - 11/9/2006 @ 5:48 pm | [ Quote ]

that’s supposed to say obliVian… trying to eat, type and work at the same time…multitasking :-D

Comment #23:
Comment by BLANE (2006) - 11/9/2006 @ 6:11 pm | [ Quote ]

I went with the Quart size because I hate the taste and the band was crooked on the 5oz bottle also to DK’s point it is easier to pour…. That counldn’t be further from the point…. Great sauce all the way around… 6.9 are you kiddin me, I know HUV is my friend but if I took that out of the picture It still is my favorite sauce…. I know everyone has there opinion but come on some chips and nacho cheese, a chicken sandwich a few days later…. The band bothered you? I’ll stop here because I’m making it personal but it is beyond me with all the praise for this sauce and winning a award first time out and it gets a 6.9…. A side note is I was able to try TracyC Smolderin Chipotle at Tenn, if you havn’t tried it your missing out…. Another awesome sauce..

Okay I feel better…

Great job HUV… Keep up the awesome sauce and don’t change a thing…

Maybe next time put the sauce your reviewing on a winder maybe you’ll get a better result…

The above is just my opinion, take it or leave it but please don’t delete it…

Comment #24:
Comment by Bret (2983) - 11/9/2006 @ 6:26 pm | [ Quote ]

BLANE on 11/9/2006 at 6:11 pm said:

I went with the Quart size because I hate the taste and the band was crooked on the 5oz bottle also to DK’s point it is easier to pour…. That counldn’t be further from the point…. Great sauce all the way around… 6.9 are you kiddin me, I know HUV is my friend but if I took that out of the picture It still is my favorite sauce…. I know everyone has there opinion but come on some chips and nacho cheese, a chicken sandwich a few days later…. The band bothered you? I’ll stop here because I’m making it personal but it is beyond me with all the praise for this sauce and winning a award first time out and it gets a 6.9…. A side note is I was able to try TracyC Smolderin Chipotle at Tenn, if you havn’t tried it your missing out…. Another awesome sauce..

Okay I feel better…

Great job HUV… Keep up the awesome sauce and don’t change a thing…

Maybe next time put the sauce your reviewing on a winder maybe you’ll get a better result…

The above is just my opinion, take it or leave it but please don’t delete it…

Now remember. He licks windows also. HeHe. Darn Blane we forgot to check out the windows on the trolly car they would have been some good ones.

Comment #25:
Comment by Bret (2983) - 11/9/2006 @ 6:26 pm | [ Quote ]

DK 113

Comment #26:
Comment by DK (2439) - 11/9/2006 @ 6:31 pm | [ Quote ]

BLANE on 11/9/2006 at 6:11 pm said:

I went with the Quart size because I hate the taste and the band was crooked on the 5oz bottle also to DK’s point it is easier to pour…. That counldn’t be further from the point…. Great sauce all the way around… 6.9 are you kiddin me, I know HUV is my friend but if I took that out of the picture It still is my favorite sauce…. I know everyone has there opinion but come on some chips and nacho cheese, a chicken sandwich a few days later…. The band bothered you? I’ll stop here because I’m making it personal but it is beyond me with all the praise for this sauce and winning a award first time out and it gets a 6.9…. A side note is I was able to try TracyC Smolderin Chipotle at Tenn, if you havn’t tried it your missing out…. Another awesome sauce..

Okay I feel better…

Great job HUV… Keep up the awesome sauce and don’t change a thing…

Maybe next time put the sauce your reviewing on a winder maybe you’ll get a better result…

The above is just my opinion, take it or leave it but please don’t delete it…

Very well said Blane. I think that the review was done with one of the older versions than what you and I have in the quarts. I had one of the first ones and there was a consitency issue with it. Although it still tasted great! Me and Nick actually noticed the same ting about it early on and let huv know about it and he made some changes. I had some of the mild for lunch today with my burritos and it poured and tasted great. No consistency issues in this bottle! It was thick, but poured very nicely!

Somebody let me know how the FKS winder thing goes, I don’t think that ones for me! ;)

And I second the comment on the Cape Fear Smolderin Chipotle, excellent sauce. And it’s also what we used in the Short Bus bottles, so it’s only natural that you like it Blane! ;) :)

Comment #27:
Comment by BLANE (2006) - 11/9/2006 @ 6:35 pm | [ Quote ]

Bret on 11/9/2006 at 6:26 pm said:

Now remember. He licks windows also. HeHe. Darn Blane we forgot to check out the windows on the trolly car they would have been some good ones.

NM, I hear they have all kinds of things on there winder’s down there.. hmmmmmmmmm ….okay I’m back

The only winder we got in Tenn was TracyC Van, he said it was the cleanest he ever saw them, when we where done…lol

Comment #28:
Comment by the truth (377) - 11/9/2006 @ 6:54 pm | [ Quote ]

Consistency problems are you kidding me?????

Reviewer problem? Yes
Great sauce Fat KId

Comment #29:
Comment by Anthony (347) - 11/9/2006 @ 7:04 pm | [ Quote ]

the truth on 11/9/2006 at 6:54 pm said:

Consistency problems are you kidding me?????

Reviewer problem? Yes
Great sauce Fat KId

Before you make a smart ass comment doug realize there was some collaborative input behind this. Also, try listening to your peers. You may learn something. And when in doubt, learn to read everything. There was an extensive Editorial note.

Comment #30:
Comment by Nick Lindauer (1014) - 11/9/2006 @ 7:05 pm | [ Quote ]

the truth on 11/9/2006 at 6:54 pm said:

Consistency problems are you kidding me?????

Reviewer problem? Yes
Great sauce Fat KId

There is no problem with the review - it states right there in the note that it was of an older version. As DK has attested to, this round of sauces did have a consistency problem (it’s clear in the picture) - but with advice from chileheads Huv re-worked things and came out with a winner.

Comment #31:
Comment by Uncle Big (558) - 11/9/2006 @ 7:16 pm | [ Quote ]

the truth on 11/9/2006 at 6:54 pm said:

Consistency problems are you kidding me?????

Reviewer problem? Yes
Great sauce Fat KId

Doug,
Did you get my email?? Where’s the Jersey Boyz at?? Uncle Big needs to know.
-Big

Comment #32:
Comment by huvason (3717) - 11/9/2006 @ 7:26 pm | [ Quote ]

Thanks Anthony for the review. As usual a great job.

And thanks to all you bloggers for your support. What has been written means a lot to me, and your friendship even more. I can’t wait to celebrate the Scovie win in NM with everyone - you have all been, in one way or another, responsible for it.

Comment #33:
Comment by chrisk (2682) - 11/9/2006 @ 7:26 pm | [ Quote ]

Anthony on 11/9/2006 at 7:04 pm said:

Before you make a smart ass comment doug realize there was some collaborative input behind this. Also, try listening to your peers. You may learn something. And when in doubt, learn to read everything. There was an extensive Editorial note.

Cant please them all, all the time…

Only 2 cents I will offer here is that this is the first time Ive seen a review get a follow-up to explain itself. Heres a quandry.

Honest review - then sauce wins an award - review gets an “ahh hold on…”

Huv, nothing against you - Im talking about whole review system here and what people are thinking.

Question is, should the review have come out if the sauce has been changed? (and after it was reviewed) Yes, cause at the time it was honest. But, looks shady cause it won an award since then, and now has more added to the review.

Thats all.
Im mentioning it cause I know people are thinking it ;-)

Comment #34:
Comment by Lisa (489) - 11/9/2006 @ 7:41 pm | [ Quote ]

huvason on 11/9/2006 at 7:26 pm said:

Thanks Anthony for the review. As usual a great job.

And thanks to all you bloggers for your support. What has been written means a lot to me, and your friendship even more. I can’t wait to celebrate the Scovie win in NM with everyone - you have all been, in one way or another, responsible for it.

I assume you will be buying the first (uhh and second) round :)

Comment #35:
Comment by Lisa (489) - 11/9/2006 @ 7:42 pm | [ Quote ]

ohh I forgot to say “in New Mexico” he he

Comment #36:
Comment by Uncle Big (558) - 11/9/2006 @ 7:43 pm | [ Quote ]

Anthony on 11/9/2006 at 7:04 pm said:

Before you make a smart ass comment doug realize there was some collaborative input behind this. Also, try listening to your peers. You may learn something. And when in doubt, learn to read everything. There was an extensive Editorial note.

Settle down boyz, don’t make me stop this car!!! Sorry, short bus!!

Opinions are like a**holes, everyone’s got one and it’s their’s to give, and you don’t need to smell it if you don’t want to.

I have never tasted Fat Kid Sauces (hint hint Huv) and I have no opinion on the sauce good or bad yet, (hint hint Huv. Subtle aren’t I?) but as an official HSB reviewer Anthony is in place to give his opinion, popular or not.
I think people are taking personal exception to his review and just like some a**holes, that stinks.

I know it’s an open forum and I’m not trying to start sh*t here, but I’ve read reviews on HSB about sauces that I have tried and I have absolutely hated the sauce, and lo and behold, they get a high rating on the blog.

It’s personal opinion, and you know what, without free thinking and the opportunity to express that opinion, popular or not, we’d be living in a really sh*tty society.

Half the sh*t that comes out of my mouth isn’t all that popular (ask my wife), but I can still say it. Yeah, I’ve had my ass handed to me before because my opinion was unpopular, but I don’t regret having voiced that opinion.

It’s just hot sauce people, let’s not hate in Anthony because his opinion differs from yours. The Fiery Foods folks thought Huvvy had a winner, and I give him much props for that win. We entered the same category and lost to Huvason’s entry, am I bitter? F*CKIN’ RIGHTS!! :-) Nah, what’s the point? All that’s going to do is make me work harder on our recipes for next year’s contest. It’s all about raising the bar for everyone in the industry, reviews, awards, or otherwise.

I’ve had prototype batches of product that tasted like a wet, albeit spicy dog’s ass and I am quite happy that I had people tell me that. You regroup, tweak and move on. Good on Huv for taking criticism, some people don’t, then again, those people don’t succeed.

My point is this, whether you agree or disagree with the review, it’s your right to voice that opinion. It ain’t cool to attack the reviewer, that’s all I’m saying.

I can tell you this, Anthony has done more for promoting hot sauce in Canada than any other private citizen I know. He’s getting businesses interested in the new upstarts like Fat Kid, Jersey Boyz, Tamales, Defcon, etc. and singing praises about HSB whereever he goes.

I for one would not be involved in this community if it were not for him contacting me to tell me he was reviewing Uncle Big’s Killer Hot Sauce. I was completely oblivious to the blog (which I’m not proud of) until he opened my eyes to it.
Nick has done amazing work on HSB to keep an honest an opinion forum for people to flock to in the tens of thousands every month, which includes having Anthony on board to do reviews. Lets not scare off the lurkers from voicing their opinion because of potential retaliation BECAUSE of their opinion.
Far be it from me to pooh pooh on a good dust up (Ryan and Pmac for instance), but I don’t think attacking Anthony’s reviewing skills was warranted.

Doug, don’t see this as a personal attack please, it’s not. We’ve spoken before, you’re cool by me. This is just my opinion and we know what opinions are like, don’t we? ;-)

Ok, I’m done, sorry to have been so long winded.

Comment #37:
Comment by Nick Lindauer (1014) - 11/9/2006 @ 7:52 pm | [ Quote ]

chrisk on 11/9/2006 at 7:26 pm said:

Cant please them all, all the time…

Only 2 cents I will offer here is that this is the first time Ive seen a review get a follow-up to explain itself. Heres a quandry.

Honest review - then sauce wins an award - review gets an “ahh hold on…”

Huv, nothing against you - Im talking about whole review system here and what people are thinking.

Question is, should the review have come out if the sauce has been changed? (and after it was reviewed) Yes, cause at the time it was honest. But, looks shady cause it won an award since then, and now has more added to the review.

Thats all.
Im mentioning it cause I know people are thinking it ;-)

Chris - I see the point and in fact I was debating on whether or not to run this review - but the fact is the review was written before the award was won, on a sauce that has a recipe that is not the same as the award winner. I was unsure whether to run it or not and even consulted Huv before with questions as to what batch and what recipe we had and what changes had been made since. In fact, I think Anthony submitted this review just a week or so before the award announcement and it wasn’t until after I received the images for the review that the award announcement had been made.

So the dilemma that I was faced with was that I didn’t want a reviewer to write a review and then not post it and I also didn’t want to post a review of a sauce that has since changed without some explanation - which is why I added the editor’s note to the end of everything. Not to give the review an “ahh hold on…” because the review hasn’t changed, I included the note to shed light to the fact that we’re almost talking about two different sauces here.

And I certainly think that the review, if read without the editors note could be taken in a negative light even though the criticism is constructive (and subjective to the taste buds at hand) and there’s no reason for an FKS sauce to get a neg. review - I think Huv has a great line up on his hands (with the exception of the Mild - that’s just veggies ;-) ).

Comment #38:
Comment by the truth (377) - 11/9/2006 @ 7:55 pm | [ Quote ]

There was an extensive Editorial note??????

would your review been diferent if you knew that FAT KID SAUCES won a scovie? IS that what you are trying to say?No personal attack taken BIG.Just dont understand the review..Ummm must just be me!!!Oh does everyone get to have chance to add comments after a review?Well im done time to keep my smart ass mouth shut

Comment #39:
Comment by the truth (377) - 11/9/2006 @ 7:58 pm | [ Quote ]

Big im cutting samples as we type i will call you in the Am

Comment #40:
Comment by Anthony (347) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:00 pm | [ Quote ]

the truth on 11/9/2006 at 7:55 pm said:

There was an extensive Editorial note??????

would your review been diferent if you knew that FAT KID SAUCES won a scovie? IS that what you are trying to say?No personal attack taken BIG.Just dont understand the review..Ummm must just be me!!!Oh does everyone get to have chance to add comments after a review?Well im done time to keep my smart ass mouth shut

The review was done with the sauce I had that I received and reviewed well be before the award. I think Nick explained it well enough. Like I said, read before you comment.

Comment #41:
Comment by the truth (377) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:11 pm | [ Quote ]

yea ok anthony

Comment #42:
Comment by huvason (3717) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:13 pm | [ Quote ]

Oh yeah…. if you want to order, use the following coupon code for additional savings on the FKS website: HSBCOUP15

You can also support our partners and get this and your other favorites at:
Jungle Jims
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http://www.sweatnspice.com (coming soon)

And others shortly!

Comment #43:
Comment by Uncle Big (558) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:20 pm | [ Quote ]

huvason on 11/9/2006 at 8:13 pm said:

Oh yeah…. if you want to order, use the following coupon code for additional savings on the FKS website: HSBCOUP15

You can also support our partners and get this and your other favorites at:
Jungle Jims
http://www.firensmoke.com
http://www.capefearpeppercompany.com
http://www.sweatnspice.com (coming soon)

And others shortly!

What about Uncle Big?? No love I tells ya, no love. :-)

Comment #44:
Comment by Uncle Big (558) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:22 pm | [ Quote ]

the truth on 11/9/2006 at 7:58 pm said:

Big im cutting samples as we type i will call you in the Am

Doug, call me in the P.M. Like 5 p.m. your time. Cool? Mrs. Uncle Big is working the store tomorrow morning. I’m sleepin’ in!
Now shut the hell up!!! Hee hee.
Ciao brothers and sisters….
Big

Comment #45:
Comment by BLANE (2006) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:25 pm | [ Quote ]

Anthony on 11/9/2006 at 8:00 pm said:

The review was done with the sauce I had that I received and reviewed well be before the award. I think Nick explained it well enough. Like I said, read before you comment.

I’m interested on what you have to say about my comments?

I did read the editorial note, it said it had been retooled, great what does that mean? Good, Bad? Your right you do have a lot of people that visit the site, Huv being the person he is said review what I sent, but give him the benifit of the doubt, do a second review show people that the imput from the chile head community had a positive result on a product!!!! Because if I didn’t know Huv and didn’t try his new sauce, I sure won’t after Your review. Thats my point and to Big’s point your right it’s my opinion just like I stated in my first post, take it or leave it I stand by it… It just bugs me when alot of reviewers take time and prepare a meal… Just not some chips or by the way here’s a sandwich throw it on, and to mention a band? it’s for safety purpose not for looks…

Anyway I think there should be 2 review’s one that was done by Antony and one after the retooling, once again just my thoughts and opinion.

Thank you for letting me vent.

Comment #46:
Comment by BLANE (2006) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:29 pm | [ Quote ]

huvason on 11/9/2006 at 8:13 pm said:

Oh yeah…. if you want to order, use the following coupon code for additional savings on the FKS website: HSBCOUP15

You can also support our partners and get this and your other favorites at:
Jungle Jims
http://www.firensmoke.com
http://www.capefearpeppercompany.com
http://www.sweatnspice.com (coming soon)

And others shortly!

Is this the old or the new stuff? lol

Comment #47:
Comment by huvason (3717) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:32 pm | [ Quote ]

Uncle Big on 11/9/2006 at 8:20 pm said:

What about Uncle Big?? No love I tells ya, no love. :-)

Your one of the “others shortly” (I hope) sauce shipping to you on Monday.

Comment #48:
Comment by Anthony (347) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:34 pm | [ Quote ]

BLANE on 11/9/2006 at 8:25 pm said:

I’m interested on what you have to say about my comments?

I did read the editorial note, it said it had been retooled, great what does that mean? Good, Bad? Your right you do have a lot of people that visit the site, Huv being the person he is said review what I sent, but give him the benifit of the doubt, do a second review show people that the imput from the chile head community had a positive result on a product!!!! Because if I didn’t know Huv and didn’t try his new sauce, I sure won’t after Your review. Thats my point and to Big’s point your right it’s my opinion just like I stated in my first post, take it or leave it I stand by it… It just bugs me when alot of reviewers take time and prepare a meal… Just not some chips or by the way here’s a sandwich throw it on, and to mention a band? it’s for safety purpose not for looks…

Anyway I think there should be 2 review’s one that was done by Antony and one after the retooling, once again just my thoughts and opinion.

Thank you for letting me vent.

Take it easy Blane. Whether the sauce was reviewed from a full blown meal or straight out of the bottle that shouldn’t matter. If you have read reviews from others you would realize it is a moot point. The sauce can speak for itself. Second of all, if you read before in one of my earlier comments, that some of this was a collaborative effort, the state of the band has no bearing on the sauce. Just an observation (and may not even have been mine if you read previous comments)

Comment #49:
Comment by BLANE (2006) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:36 pm | [ Quote ]

Anthony on 11/9/2006 at 8:34 pm said:

Take it easy Blane. Whether the sauce was reviewed from a full blown meal or straight out of the bottle that shouldn’t matter. If you have read reviews from others you would realize it is a moot point. The sauce can speak for itself. Second of all, if you read before in one of my earlier comments, that some of this was a collaborative effort, the state of the band has no bearing on the sauce. Just an observation (and may not even have been mine if you read previous comments)

Thank you for avoiding my points and thoughts…

Comment #50:
Comment by huvason (3717) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:36 pm | [ Quote ]

BLANE on 11/9/2006 at 8:29 pm said:

Is this the old or the new stuff? lol

New stuff. All the old stuff I open, poured in some quarts and shipped to tenn 8O

Comment #51:
Comment by Ryan@angrypepper (2615) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:45 pm | [ Quote ]

Well, I can’t let Doug have ALL the glory here, so it goes…

No character? What do you call the flavor? I’d say it’s got a bit of an Itallian character to it… not to mention the chubby hab… but that’s just a gimmick right?

My personal opinion (I don’t expect anyone to agree, but would like people to at least think about it) is even though there is an “editor’s note”, this review should not have been posted based on the fact that it was done on an older version of the sauce and that version is not available for purchase. This is just like a car commercial for last year’s model. Sure there are 05 and 06 models out there, but that’s not what’s being advertised. Though Anthony did go through the trouble of trying the sauce and writing up a review, here in the real world, sometimes our hard work and effort goes no further than ourselves because it’s either not reasonable, or the outcome is damaging, such is the case of this review.

Should people read the thread, the whole thread, and nothing but the thread so help them god? Yes. Are people LIKELY to? No. At first glance, once you get down to the “overall rating”, you figure the review is done. My suggestion is that if there are going to be editorial notes added, it needs to be towards the end of the review, but before the overall rating bit.

Lastly, even though Doug technically drew first blood, for Anthony to come back and say that Doug has a “smart ass mouth” is getting damn near down to my level and I know that’s not where Anthony wants to be… not to mention I couldn’t ever allow there to be two of me :-P It strikes me as odd that reviewer can pretty much say what he wants as long as it is done in a round about way, but if the reviewer gets reviewed, the reviewer can’t handle it. If you’re going to be a critic, expect some criticism in return.

Thanks folks, Thank you Huv for being so gracious, and thank you Doug for speaking your mind. Anthony, I realize you were speaking your mind as well, but insults is rather unbecoming of a representative of the HSB.

Comment #52:
Comment by Tracy C (1312) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:45 pm | [ Quote ]

BLANE on 11/9/2006 at 8:25 pm said:

I’m interested on what you have to say about my comments?

I did read the editorial note, it said it had been retooled, great what does that mean? Good, Bad? Your right you do have a lot of people that visit the site, Huv being the person he is said review what I sent, but give him the benifit of the doubt, do a second review show people that the imput from the chile head community had a positive result on a product!!!! Because if I didn’t know Huv and didn’t try his new sauce, I sure won’t after Your review. Thats my point and to Big’s point your right it’s my opinion just like I stated in my first post, take it or leave it I stand by it… It just bugs me when alot of reviewers take time and prepare a meal… Just not some chips or by the way here’s a sandwich throw it on, and to mention a band? it’s for safety purpose not for looks…

Anyway I think there should be 2 review’s one that was done by Antony and one after the retooling, once again just my thoughts and opinion.

Thank you for letting me vent.

Exactly! In all fairness, why POST a review with a negative slant knowing that it was not the current recipe available to the consumer?

Comment #53:
Comment by Nick Lindauer (1014) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:45 pm | [ Quote ]

I’ve already told Anthony I’d send him abother bottle as soon as Huv gets my order out (hint hint Huv)

Comment #54:
Comment by Anthony (347) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:48 pm | [ Quote ]

BLANE on 11/9/2006 at 8:36 pm said:

Thank you for avoiding my points and thoughts…

Blane, talk to Huv before you make another comment. You seem to be taking this way to personally.

Comment #55:
Comment by Nick Lindauer (1014) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:51 pm | [ Quote ]

Tracy C on 11/9/2006 at 8:45 pm said:

Exactly! In all fairness, why POST a review with a negative slant knowing that it was not the current recipe available to the consumer?

Because it shows what an improvement and what dedication the maker has in his product in order to turn it into a winner. Sort of like a before and after shot - but the after is coming as soon as it’s labeled and sent in this case.

Comment #56:
Comment by Bret (2983) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:51 pm | [ Quote ]

huvason on 11/9/2006 at 8:13 pm said:

Oh yeah…. if you want to order, use the following coupon code for additional savings on the FKS website: HSBCOUP15

You can also support our partners and get this and your other favorites at:
Jungle Jims
http://www.firensmoke.com
http://www.capefearpeppercompany.com
http://www.sweatnspice.com (coming soon)

And others shortly!

Thanks Huv

Comment #57:
Comment by Bret (2983) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:53 pm | [ Quote ]

BLANE on 11/9/2006 at 8:25 pm said:

I’m interested on what you have to say about my comments?

I did read the editorial note, it said it had been retooled, great what does that mean? Good, Bad? Your right you do have a lot of people that visit the site, Huv being the person he is said review what I sent, but give him the benifit of the doubt, do a second review show people that the imput from the chile head community had a positive result on a product!!!! Because if I didn’t know Huv and didn’t try his new sauce, I sure won’t after Your review. Thats my point and to Big’s point your right it’s my opinion just like I stated in my first post, take it or leave it I stand by it… It just bugs me when alot of reviewers take time and prepare a meal… Just not some chips or by the way here’s a sandwich throw it on, and to mention a band? it’s for safety purpose not for looks…

Anyway I think there should be 2 review’s one that was done by Antony and one after the retooling, once again just my thoughts and opinion.

Thank you for letting me vent.

Blane to sector 13

Comment #58:
Comment by thakswet (529) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:53 pm | [ Quote ]

I thought it was a good review.

I think these are great posts from some caring people. Anthony cares ALOT!!! What he does is great work.

maybe it’s time for a review from me…..

Comment #59:
Comment by Ryan@angrypepper (2615) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:54 pm | [ Quote ]

Anthony on 11/9/2006 at 8:48 pm said:

Blane, talk to Huv before you make another comment. You seem to be taking this way to personally.

That’s what happens when people criticize things that people are passionate about. Not to mention the fact that Huv is one of us. He’s not some faceless company putting out a product, he’s flesh and blood that many of us have had the great pleasure of meeting in person. The only way some of us could not take this personal is if we didn’t like the guy. There are people on here that would give the shirt off their back and maybe even taka bullet for some others on here. I for one would do that for Huv, as well as a few others.

Comment #60:
Comment by Ryan@angrypepper (2615) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:56 pm | [ Quote ]

thakswet on 11/9/2006 at 8:53 pm said:

I thought it was a good review.

I think these are great posts from some caring people. Anthony cares ALOT!!! What he does is great work.

maybe it’s time for a review from me…..

Just don’t complain that the review isn’t getting enough attention this time.

Comment #61:
Comment by Anthony (347) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:57 pm | [ Quote ]

Ryan@angrypepper on 11/9/2006 at 8:45 pm said:

Well, I can’t let Doug have ALL the glory here, so it goes…

No character? What do you call the flavor? I’d say it’s got a bit of an Itallian character to it… not to mention the chubby hab… but that’s just a gimmick right?

My personal opinion (I don’t expect anyone to agree, but would like people to at least think about it) is even though there is an “editor’s note”, this review should not have been posted based on the fact that it was done on an older version of the sauce and that version is not available for purchase. This is just like a car commercial for last year’s model. Sure there are 05 and 06 models out there, but that’s not what’s being advertised. Though Anthony did go through the trouble of trying the sauce and writing up a review, here in the real world, sometimes our hard work and effort goes no further than ourselves because it’s either not reasonable, or the outcome is damaging, such is the case of this review.

Should people read the thread, the whole thread, and nothing but the thread so help them god? Yes. Are people LIKELY to? No. At first glance, once you get down to the “overall rating”, you figure the review is done. My suggestion is that if there are going to be editorial notes added, it needs to be towards the end of the review, but before the overall rating bit.

Lastly, even though Doug technically drew first blood, for Anthony to come back and say that Doug has a “smart ass mouth” is getting damn near down to my level and I know that’s not where Anthony wants to be… not to mention I couldn’t ever allow there to be two of me :-P It strikes me as odd that reviewer can pretty much say what he wants as long as it is done in a round about way, but if the reviewer gets reviewed, the reviewer can’t handle it. If you’re going to be a critic, expect some criticism in return.

Thanks folks, Thank you Huv for being so gracious, and thank you Doug for speaking your mind. Anthony, I realize you were speaking your mind as well, but insults is rather unbecoming of a representative of the HSB.

Ryan, for someone who lives on here you should know that Doug and I have always had words. I try and stay out of drama as much as possible so don’t stir it up.

Comment #62:
Comment by Tracy C (1312) - 11/9/2006 @ 8:58 pm | [ Quote ]

Nick Lindauer on 11/9/2006 at 8:51 pm said:

Because it shows what an improvement and what dedication the maker has in his product in order to turn it into a winner. Sort of like a before and after shot - but the after is coming as soon as it’s labeled and sent in this case.

I agree. Constructive criticism can be very helpful. However, if the criticism is given AFTER the improvements have been made, what’s the point?? That’s like getting a report card that says “needs improvement” long after the grades were brought up.

Comment #63:
Comment by Ryan@angrypepper (2615) - 11/9/2006 @ 9:01 pm | [ Quote ]

Anthony on 11/9/2006 at 8:57 pm said:

Ryan, for someone who lives on here you should know that Doug and I have always had words. I try and stay out of drama as much as possible so don’t stir it up.

LOL at “lives on here”… that’s some funny s#it. If I lived on here I’d still have more comments than anyone else. I’ve been far too busy to “live on here”. Stating opinions is all I’m doing. It’s no different than you reviewing a sauce, I’m just giving my review of a whole thread. As for stiring up drama, I think you did a pretty good job doing that yourself with your comment to Doug. Sure I’m the usual suspect, but I’m not the guilty party in this one :-D

Comment #64:
Comment by BLANE (2006) - 11/9/2006 @ 9:04 pm | [ Quote ]

Anthony on 11/9/2006 at 8:34 pm said:

Take it easy Blane. Whether the sauce was reviewed from a full blown meal or straight out of the bottle that shouldn’t matter. If you have read reviews from others you would realize it is a moot point. The sauce can speak for itself. Second of all, if you read before in one of my earlier comments, that some of this was a collaborative effort, the state of the band has no bearing on the sauce. Just an observation (and may not even have been mine if you read previous comments)

Collaborative effort? I thought you where to do the review, thats what it states? Not your Chile head neighbor, no offense to him… If your review was effected by someone else’s opinion it should be stated!!! Again just my thoughts

Comment #65:
Comment by Leroy (2983) - 11/9/2006 @ 9:05 pm | [ Quote ]

Anthony on 11/9/2006 at 8:34 pm said:

Take it easy Blane. Whether the sauce was reviewed from a full blown meal or straight out of the bottle that shouldn’t matter. If you have read reviews from others you would realize it is a moot point. The sauce can speak for itself. Second of all, if you read before in one of my earlier comments, that some of this was a collaborative effort, the state of the band has no bearing on the sauce. Just an observation (and may not even have been mine if you read previous comments)

I will do my best to do good review on FKS……. Here it goes. IT’S GOOD. WE TRY IT ON SOME FRESH ROADKILL. MAN IT MADE TASTE LIKE THE MEAT BLANE MAKES. I GIVE IT A 12 OUT 10. How was that.

Comment #66:
Comment by BLANE (2006) - 11/9/2006 @ 9:06 pm | [ Quote ]

huvason on 11/9/2006 at 8:36 pm said:

New stuff. All the old stuff I open, poured in some quarts and shipped to te