Label looks pretty tight.. a lot of open space for signing.. won’t be able to make it to the show to get one of the last ones so i hope i can get in on this one also

Nice

I really like that label design. Good work guys. I really regret not getting in on the first round, because I think those bottle will look amazing on everyone’s shelves of doom.

First - I cant wait to get the orignal bottle. Unfortunately, since i’m not going to NM and the fact that half the labels are missing, i’m probably not going to get one.

I love the new design. I think that the labels should be shipped as one set - less chance of a set being lost. BUT, we neeed some of concrete way to track them, and perhaps have some sort of recourse for delays (not exactly sure how that would work of course)

I agree with Huv (now THAT’s scary), the labels should be sent as one set. Anyone in the mail loop should be required to ship it USPS Priority Mail with delivery confirmation. It will only cost about $3-4 bucks per person, but will zip through the country and the delivery confirmations will keep tabe on who has them. As for international, USPS Global Express Mail (EMS), same deal, although a couple more bucks.

1. I like the new labels alot, and I think the more people that can sign them at NM the better.

2. I also agree with Huv and Defcon, ship as on set and go UPS with a sinature to track. It will be a bit more costly, but the tracking will aleviate any concerns of where they are. Personally, I wouldn’t care about the costs, having a bottle with all my brothers and sister’s names on it is worth it to me.

3. Do you need someone to be in charge of getting those labels signed by everyone, I would be happy to help in anyway that I can.

I agree cheffy…I will fork over a few bucks to be a part of such a unique project.

I warms my heart that this awesome site puts out the way it does for charity. It breaks my heart that I won’t be seeing any of these bottles on my shelf this year. Keep up the great work, Nick!

Nick Lindauer on 2/22/2007 at 8:42 am said:

Everyone on the original list will get their bottle - it’s just a matter of time. I don’t think the labels are gone forever, just delayed.

But that being said, I did make sure that we signed more labels then there were people on the list so if those labels are not found we should still have enough to go around.

If anyone can come up with a concrete way to track the next round of labels, then I’m all ears

Cool - but I still hope the labels re-surface.

DEFCON Creator on 2/22/2007 at 8:42 am said:

I agree with Huv (now THAT’s scary), the labels should be sent as one set. Anyone in the mail loop should be required to ship it USPS Priority Mail with delivery confirmation. It will only cost about $3-4 bucks per person, but will zip through the country and the delivery confirmations will keep tabe on who has them. As for international, USPS Global Express Mail (EMS), same deal, although a couple more bucks.

Must be the Humunculus I agree USPS priority should be the only way. Priority Rate Flat mail is only 4.05 in the continental US:

Priority Mail Flat-Rate Envelope 2 Day(s) $4.05

That covers Any mailable item sent in a Priority Mail Flat Rate envelope provided by the Postal Service, regardless of weight or destination, costs $4.05.

I think every should be required to send the $4.05 - in advance to someone and all the postage purchased ahead of time (I’m pretty sure you can buy $4.05 stamps). That way address labels and stamps could be included as well. Or maybe $10 in advnace for the stamp and the bottle (not really sure how much the actual bottle of sauce will cost). Now everyone has invested MONEY in the venture. People have a tendancy to make sure that things get done when their own money is involved.

Of course now someone will have all the stamps as well as the labels.

OR - Havve everyone pay for the stamp, bottle and a regular stamp, and then mail the labels around the country, and mail each person their stamp. I think there should a buck or so extra charge for materials included as well. Maybe $15 for the package (does not include shipping of the actual bottle)

Of course Nick should not do this alone. AMybe we can get a comitte of sorts to break out the work (especially of sending out the stamp “package”

Just some ramblings

I wasn’t involved in the last round, but my initial though was also, 1 package, keep em all together and everyone knows where they are at all times. Have a thread where the location is tracked. You have to post when you get em and post when you sent em and to who. That would keep everyone acountable, would show how long you held them and who you sent them too, tracking numbers should be posted also, that way anyone could go on line and see exactly where they are, UPS provides tracking on every package, even ground free and 100 dollars insurance included.
Count me in on the next one, BTW I love the label!
Ed

and……post the list and order of who is getting them first post on the thread!

Hmmmm, I think we should just leave it up to whoever receives the package to sign the labels and send it on USPS Priority Mail only. The person who is the last to send it could post the tracking number on here, and who they shipped it to and when, so everyone would know. That way there wouldn’t be any delays as the last person on the list that it was mailed to will be known to everyone. Kind of a guilt trip to the last person mailed to, but I think it would work.

I don’t see a problem with it.

As for the jury duty thing, take my advice, do what I do, buzzcut your hair, and put on an NRA shirt and combat boots, black jeans tucked in to the boots and laced up tight. Works every time, the defense will usually dismiss you before you even raise your hand for a sidebar.

These are all great ideas, and ways to help insure they dont “disappear” again.
But the sad part is we shouldnt have to go here, to this extreme. Alot of this was thought about last March when this all came about, and it was decided that all those involved were in the chilehead community, and would respect what we were trying to do. And do their part. Most did! Well, not sure what happened, and hopefully the other labels will surface. Out of all those that took the time to sign and send em out, THANKS! But it takes just one weak link to break that, as we now see. We all hope its an oversight, and not someone trying to benefit here, cause that would suck, and its just not right.
So, I think its great Nick will have these in NM, and alot can sign em there. As for the rest, the others, (not there) I’d have to agree. I think we need to require delivery confirmation, and at the very least get that info back to Nick. Maybe not on the Blog. But so it can be tracked. We can save the public stoning till later

Nick Lindauer on 2/22/2007 at 10:17 am said:

In jury duty on the BB now so I can’t quote, but:

Ed - we did the tracking thread last time, but I do like the suggestion of putting the list of names on it in order to keep things straight.

Everyone - what about making anyone that wants to participate put down a deposit? Say $25? The total cost of the bottle breaks down like this:
- Bottle of Sauce: $3ish
- Label design: free
- Labels: neglible
- Shipping of the labels (per person): $4 to $5.
- Shipping of the naked bottles to NY: maybe $0.75 per bottle.
- Shipping of the completed bottle to each participant: $4 to $5 (unless it’s international)

That’s close to $15 per bottle without any chairity donation.So a $25 deposit would result with a $10 refund per person (assume each person incurs the cost of shipping the labels), $5 would cover the shipping of the completed bottle to each person and the remaining $10 would result in about $5 to $6 going to charity for each bottle.

Hopefully that makes sense - thoughts?

I like that Nick. Sounds fair.

sorry Nick, have to sneak in an off topic question…. :)~

anyone flying in on Wednesday night on the red eye from NY?

k thanks

Nick Lindauer on 2/22/2007 at 10:17 am said:

In jury duty on the BB now so I can’t quote, but:

Ed - we did the tracking thread last time, but I do like the suggestion of putting the list of names on it in order to keep things straight.

Everyone - what about making anyone that wants to participate put down a deposit? Say $25? The total cost of the bottle breaks down like this:
- Bottle of Sauce: $3ish
- Label design: free
- Labels: neglible
- Shipping of the labels (per person): $4 to $5.
- Shipping of the naked bottles to NY: maybe $0.75 per bottle.
- Shipping of the completed bottle to each participant: $4 to $5 (unless it’s international)

That’s close to $15 per bottle without any chairity donation.So a $25 deposit would result with a $10 refund per person (assume each person incurs the cost of shipping the labels), $5 would cover the shipping of the completed bottle to each person and the remaining $10 would result in about $5 to $6 going to charity for each bottle.

Hopefully that makes sense - thoughts?

sounds fine to me. But instead of a refund how about a new unsigned bottle for consumption. That way, its less likely the signed ones get heh “” opened “”

The labels looks great. I like the open space for the sigs! I am with everyone else on the priority mail thing. That is how I shipped it and if we just add delivery confirmation we will know for sure where and if it made it to the destination.

Nick Lindauer on 2/22/2007 at 10:17 am said:

In jury duty on the BB now so I can’t quote, but:

Ed - we did the tracking thread last time, but I do like the suggestion of putting the list of names on it in order to keep things straight.

Everyone - what about making anyone that wants to participate put down a deposit? Say $25? The total cost of the bottle breaks down like this:
- Bottle of Sauce: $3ish
- Label design: free
- Labels: neglible
- Shipping of the labels (per person): $4 to $5.
- Shipping of the naked bottles to NY: maybe $0.75 per bottle.
- Shipping of the completed bottle to each participant: $4 to $5 (unless it’s international)

That’s close to $15 per bottle without any chairity donation.So a $25 deposit would result with a $10 refund per person (assume each person incurs the cost of shipping the labels), $5 would cover the shipping of the completed bottle to each person and the remaining $10 would result in about $5 to $6 going to charity for each bottle.

Hopefully that makes sense - thoughts?

I like this idea the best, but maybe still consider the one set idea, keep them together, have people track through the Blog as well as follow a pre-determined shipping route list.

I also feel really great to be a part of a community that has given so much. That is what we should be about, so I’m proud of the group for (at the risk of stealing Jim’s schtick) “stepping up” here. I can’t wait to sign the labels in NM and play a small part in keeping this thing rolling.

I’d also like to throw my $0.02 in that we should track the deliveries and signature confirmations more carefully. I’m sure that we already made the appropriate inquiries of the last ones on the tracking thread and Frapper map? As ChrisK said, we shouldn’t have to, but here we are.

Sounds good. The design looks awesome!

Nice job on the Labels guys. We would be proud to be part of this. I love all this charity stuff.

If you have someone that doesn’t check his mail for 2 months it really
does not matter how they are sent. Tracking is only known to the sender unless he/she supplies tracking number to all concerned(ie,BLOG)or someone in control. Signature confirmation will only slow
it more since mail has to wait to deliver to the person.