Blair’s 16 Million Product Review
Blair’s 16 Million compares to Tabasco the way a bottle rocket compares to Nagasaki – NY Post May 4th, 2005
Blair’s Death Sauces have always been the hottest sauces on the market and the extract line of sauces have become high dollar collector’s items. Blair’s newest reserve is called Blair’s 16 Million Reserve and it’s not really an extract. It’s pure cap, in its powdered form. This hot concoction comes in the traditional Blair’s Reserve bottle, but it is actually a small vial, almost like a salt shaker, that is stuffed inside the bottle and then sealed with white and gold wax.


The bottle is tiny – extremely tiny. Here’s a picture of the bottle compared to a 6 A.M. bottle.
The bottles are reverse threaded so that none of the crystals fall out when you unscrew the top. Inside there is a blue stopper that looks a lot like a salt shaker. The speck that you see towards the top right of the image below is a capsaicin particle from the shaker.
Here’s a slightly better view of the bottle – You can see the threading and the capsaicin crystal a little better.
And into the pot of soup it goes.
It’s important to note that the heat will not distribute throughout the soup right away, you need to continue to heat it up, preferably while stirring with a disposable spoon. After about 5 minutes of boiling, my soup was ready to go. First bite was not that hot, so I had the wife take a bite. She threatened divorce once she could speak again, so I tried it again. Then it was hot! So I took a few more bites and had to toss the rest of the pot away – it was too frickin’ hot! And it’s very rare for me to say something is too hot. But this is the hottest hot sauce product known to man.
No longer in production – Blair’s 16 Million Reserve is available as a collector’s item only. If you know where to get your hands on one – please let us know!
But then again, the bottle looks so spiffy, you probably won’t be able to bring yourself to open it. Don’t worry, your taste buds are already thanking you…
You have an audience, AND you had to toss the soup? Obviously this was very very hot. Great story. Nice sneak peek!
This site rules
Ever since I read this a couple days ago, I can’t stop thinking about how freaking hot this stuff must be. a whole pot of soup? crazy.
i thought daves insanity was hot at 51,000 units!! i have just ordered 3am sauce rated at 2million units from blair, i will let you know!!
I have tasted The Source before (7.1 million units). After an hour of sweating, drooling, and crying I swore to never try anything like that again. After reading this, I’m tempted to try Blair’s 16 million.
I’m new to your site and am wondering if you ever tried/reviewed Red Dog Tavern’s “Armageddon Sauce”? Plenty hot, but also a great flavor. If it is still made, do you know where I can get it? I’m almost out!
Great site, BTW!
This is the silliest marketing I have ever seen. This is not a “sauce”, it is a chemical – capsaicin, widely available but not to consumers, and for a good reason. It is not used or useful for anything other than as a diluted base for other hot sauces or pepper-sprays; the human tongue cant even tell the difference between 1 and 16 million capsaicin extract!
Battery acid is cheaper, get some of that instead.
You’ve got to be kidding me. Why would anyone in their right mind sell powdered capsaicin? This chemical has such an adverse effect on the human anatomy that it can cause a heart attack if taken in any dosage larger than what you took. It is absolutely ludacrous that anyone would provide this. It’s like handing a baby some 16 molar Hydrochloric Acid and telling it to chug it. I mean, come on people. Why not go drink some gasoline and then have someone light a match in your mouth?
That’s why it comes with so many warnings.
Because people actually buy it. If an adult wants to be idiotic and “test their limits,” then that’s their decision and I see nothing wrong with that. But please don’t compare the sale of this product to intentionally poisoning a baby. That’s quite a stretch, don’t you think?
I bought this and I must say that it is so hot that it is not hot??? I took 7-10 crystals and put it on my tongue and it felt peppery hot but only in the spot where the crystals touched… I was disappointed,(even though that spot felt hot for an hour) then I took one drop of “The Source” and I could not feel anything… If you have ever taken “any” of “The Source” you know you how it should feel and taste I mean it should be nothing but F****** Hot!!! I swear that this stuff is so hot that it must pop the buds it touches; I could eat anything and not even have an aftertaste after these crystals… I just hope that the taste buds grow back because I miss the taste of my other hot sauces…
“But this is the hottest element known to man”
Wrong, sorry to be picky but it isn’t an element
webelements.com
if you can’t find it there it isn’t one.
And your point is? It’s not a sauce either, but it’s labeled as one
Nice well, done review. Hot stuff! As far as Lars’ request for “Armageddon Sauce” it still seems to be out there – do a Google search for it and you can find some dealers who sell it. Keep warm! Grin!
I told my friends about this stuff and no of them believe how hot it is. I would let them try some but its so freakin expensive I can’t get my hands on some. From the story I can tell I have to get this product.
I’ll bet any cocaine addict will kick it if some of this stuff found it’s way into their stash!
Can this be mixed with anythng so that it would be more user frienly for sharing, daily use and still keep the heat?
the chemical formula for capcaicin is C18H27NO3
Difference between Hot & Spicey Foods
When taking something spicey…one must start at mild, and if they like it, a lil bit more spicey would be added…
Caution: Here in the USA, (I will be honest)…when they say they like “HOT” foods, they are STUPID because they dont know the true value of a food being spicey compared to a “HOT” food that has been bought more then of a $50 hot sauce…. Something “spicey” usually is between $1 to $10 for just a plain pound of hot sauce in other countries and/or homemade, but here in the USA, they range from $10-over $100…which it is ridiculous.
Inorder to like something “hot” or “spicey”, 1 must still enjoy the taste of the actually food and not just the taste of the “Hot Sauce” (or extract)…
Quick lesson on the difference on foods being “Hot” and foods being “Spicey”…Spicey is Better and Smarter 😉 “Plain Hot” is stupid because you can’t taste the food and enjoy it
I have got to try some of this!!
I also agree with Oskar, When I go out to eat, I never eat “hot” food because it spoils the taste of what im eating… I leave the hot stuff to Fries and the like 🙂
Capsaicin
This product is a neurotoxin component of cayenne
pepper. It stimulates excitatory afferent sensory
neurons, causing hypothermia, neurogenic
inflammation, and pain. This is then followed by
subsequent desensitization.3,4 Capsaicin is the
primary irritant used in pepper spray: initial
administration causes intense pain. Prolonged
treatment causes insensitivity to painful stimuli and
induces selective degeneration of certain primary
sensory neurons.5 TLC, HPLC, and GC-MS analysis
of capsaicinoids in pepper spray have been
published.6 Capsazepine is a competitive antagonist
of this chemical (capsaicin) and resiniferatoxin.7
Capsaicin has been used in neuronal studies to
deplete Substance P.8,9 It is also listed as a nerve
growth factor that antagonizes the neurotoxic action of
capsaicinon primary sensory neurons.10
References
1. The Merck Index, 11th ed., Entry# 1767.
2. J. Indian Chem. Soc., 64, 176 (1987).
3. Holzer, Neuroscience, 24, 739 (1988).
4. Bevan, et al., TIPS, 11, 330 (1990).
5. J. Forensic Science, 27, 812 (1982).
6. Nature, 270, 741 (1977).
7. Walpole, C. S., et al., The Discovery of
Capsazepine, the First Competitive Antagonist of
the Sensory Neuron Excitants Capsaicin and
Resiniferatoxin. J. Med. Chem., 37(13), 1942-
1954 (1994).
8. Jessell, T. M., Capsaicin-induced Depletion of
Substance P from Primary Sensory Neurones,
Brain Res., 152(1), 183-188 (1978).
9. Science, 206, 481 (1979).
10. Nature, 301, 515 (1983).
I got my bottle of 16 Million Reserve yesterday. One of these days, I’ll get up enough nerve to open it.
hey guys im 19 and i love hot sauce i love spicy food and i disagree about the hot food comment i sometimes find it a challenge to see how much i can eat. I just bought some mad dog 1 million scoville unit on ebay, which by the way is a great place to look for rare sauces. if anyone has any recomendations on sauces that would be awesome thanks
A guy is going to eat some of this stuff in about an hour live on 98 KUPD radio station in Phoenix Arizona. I give him about 4 hours to live 😉
haha yeah, i’m listening to them too. ERIC IS AN IDIOT!!! he is gonna have a heart attack, with or without vanilla ice cream!
Are you guys for real? Someone please record the taste test and send it my way!
Well now Eric is missing most his brain cells and taste buds! He’s absolutely insane!!!! 😉
Eric had a hard time with the blair’s 16 million.. but they have pictures of it on 98kupd.com for your viewing pleasure..
They ended up having to take Eric to the hospital cause he was having breathing problems!
I was wondering about some of those A#$hole’s out there that would buy this and slip it into some unexspecting person’s dring for a gag, or maybe someone they don’t like. That’s a little dangerous don’t you think that some wack job could get their hand’s on it.
I was wondering about some of those A#$hole’s out there that would buy this and slip it into some unexspecting person’s dring for a gag, or maybe someone they don’t like. That’s a little dangerous don’t you think that some wack job could get their hand’s on it.
That is a bit scary that someone could do that, like hey this is my last day at Taco Bell I’m going to slip this stuff into everyones food. 98 KUPD posted the pics of the experiment on their website of Eric eating this stuff… check it out here: http://98kupd.com/PhotoWall.asp?id=14779
Oh yeah… it was on a $400 bet. He earned every penny of it
Eric is a SISSY!
I just tried some. It is not that bad.
No you didnt.
Andy – the reason you find it a challenge is because you’re young and stupid. Trust me, we were all that way once. I should know, I used to do the same thing.
Eventually you grow out of it and while you appreciate the burn you get from something hot, you appreciate it more when you can actually taste your food with it.
I have downed my share of hot sauce,habanerros, jalapenos,and I love most.Once I drunkly mistakened pepper spray with breath spray (mean trick I am still going to get even for.) I thought I was going to die. half a loaf of bread almost a gallon of milk and 3 tons of ice water and it still burned. I had blue and green flames coming out of my eyes. The next morning when I woke up it still burned, blister on my lip. Considering pepper spray is made from a diluted version of Capsaicin. I wish this stuff would get banned ASAP before another mean trick comes my way. However revenge would be sweet.
What a dumb ass… Who is stupid enough to not read the lable of something they are about to squirt in their mouth; even if you are drunk. What lug…
Is this guy for real? Like OMG!!!
OMG! This stuff is pure evil in a bottle! Hell, I want some! But at $200 dollars for 1 ml?
Haha – just had a thought – you know in all the older cops vs drug runner movies where they slice the bag and taste the “product” (no, it doesn’t work)? Hehe – I’ll leave the rest to your imagination!
hmmm…
I wonder if this is the same stuff as Blair’s 16?
http://www.agscientific.com/Virtual/VirtualPages/
Item_Page_ALL_TYPES.asp?ItemCode=C1095&Item_Process_Mode=ADD
got bottle 491/999, made a beef con carne for 4 people, put the smallest bit in i could,but no change,bit more-now med-hot, then the same again as 1+2,now we are talking! just the flavour of the dish but with proper heat, absoluetly lovely.
i could not say how much i put in, but compared with the 1ml vial, the amount didnt change in the bottle.i might get some sensitive scales and do another chilli and work out the weight for a decent heat.expensive, but who cares, who else has tried it? not you!!
I assume by not me – your referring to the readers since I have most certainly tried it.
(sorry, of course you have tried it!) the only shame is spoiling the bottle by opening it.
i bought some 16 million reserve and all i have to say is “wat the Fu**” this is crazy stuff. i diluted it in one big squeezy bottle of heinz tomato ketchup. i bought some chips from the local fish and chip shop. nervously i dipped my chip and took a taste. the initial sensation was heat. plenty of it. followed b a pain. man it hurt. right now this made chilli sauce like sherbert.after a full 6 pints of milk and a bit of crying i needed the toilet. the ring of fire was so intense. trust me. this stuff is da bomb. id love to mix some in with the next doors cat food. any thoughts?
Basically the suicide of hot foods. Shooting yourself in the head would be a welcome option to this stuff. If you have one of those ‘I can eat anything ’cause I’m a tough guy’ people hanging around, I highly suggest you offer him a few pops of this stuff. Then proceed to secretly record his suffering and post it for our entertainment. Please note that this is one of the only foods available on the market that is weaponized for military use. (Unless your one of those bullet eating freaks)
Ok, so I’m ordering a bottle of 16 million AND a nice big supply of the pure stuff from ag scientific.. We’ll see whats up. I’m not really TOO scared, since I eat 6am all the damn time… But I’m a little worried about the stupid shit I’ll do with it. We don’t mess around with 6am. We make sure that people know they are trying it before giving it to anyone.
🙂 LOL, I’ll be back soon with my results.
It’s interesting to note that most negative comments here fail to understand the value of a collectible! This bottle is expensive because it is beautifully packaged, and hand signed and numbered by the manufacturer (Blair), produced in limited quantity. You wanna eat it? Go ahead, meanwhile, my collection continues to increase in value.
Well, ag scientific rejected my order because they don’t want their products used for human consumption. Meanwhile, I have a great idea for a food additive and I don’t want to ruin (as stated by the last poster) a good collectible, just for testing. Anyone know of another source for pure capsaicin?
I guess for now I will continue to make the collectible value of blair’s 6 am reserve go up for everyone else, since I’m on bottle 2 of the stuff already. I think I’m addicted to the rush…
I must say that i have had pure Capsaicin and I was sick, throwing up… the worst I’ve ever been. The flu never made me feel like this. The hottest I had previous to that was the Source… which I was duped into putting on a pretzel. I handled it well, so I took a $50 bet to eat a couple grains of capsaicin. Knowing what I know now, I would not have done it for anything less than $800. I thought I was going to have to go to the hospital. I’ve never been so violently ill in my life. Add that to the fact that for around 2 weeks, taste wasn’t a luxary I had. Use this for what it says… a collectors item, pretty bottle, etc.
I shall say hello to all my fellow chili heads. I don’t think you can ever get too hot in anything, that being said I still wouldn’t eat this product…
I just want to own a bottle for the simple pleasure of owning one (kinda like the car you never drive but love to own). And also to everyone who is worried about people putting this in someones food as a joke or a cruel prank (as someone said “That is a bit scary that someone could do that, like hey this is my last day at Taco Bell I’m going to slip this stuff into everyones food.”) I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that anyone who will plunk down 200 dollars to play a joke or get revenge has other issues… and anyone who knows about the product at all knows how serious capsaicin is and why it wouldn’t be funny.
I wanna get pulled over by a cop, have the cop search me, find a vial of 16 million, taste test it for cocaine. And get a copy of the police car video…..
Will everyone stop being such a friggin’ nerd and live a little. Yes it’s stupid, but that’s the whole point of it. Nobody is buying it for taste! Nor do we care what the formula is, or that it’s not really considered an element. WHO CARES! Buy some, put it on your tongue, give it to your friends and then laugh as everybody is on the floor drooling and tearing up. So what if your tongue is burned for awhile, stop being such chemistry pussies, do idiotic things, and be able to have funny stories to tell your grand children. Trust me … they’d rather hear about that, than what the stuff is made of.
3rd comment on these pages, i have just put $40 worth in a chicken con carne for 3 servings, the others are suffering big respect thow as they finished(with ice cream!) i am super hot but the heat is WHAT YOU WANT! dont be a pussy eat it! all these silly people worrying about it! if you put it in a can of soup it is watered down from 16 mill to less than 50000 scoville and everyone thinks that is duck water so grow up shave your chest and take out bupa cover just in case….
i can supply a sample at cost(so i am not making any money) please forward $7 for a sample in a glass jar. please do not show this if it violates any laws because i am selling but the $7 is for packing and post to any place in the world not the product, limited to 2 samples to 2 different people only paypal taken only.please realise that this is a sample for 1 person, so let the dish you use it in be very small, to realise the strength! thanks for letting me pass the expierence on if this is listed contact me 257@lycos.co.uk
I’m not sure I’d be willing to buy this, but I don’t think it’s illegal.
my family and i use “da bomb” (119,700 SU)in our meat loaf…we use only a couple drops in the sauce and we still fight for the first glass of milk….this stuff is insane..16 million SU?…i aint that darin…
i saved up my money bought a bottle of this stuff it was very cool once i got it i almost didnt want to open it so i didnt….i have a bottle of blairs mega death sauce rated at 550000 scoville units that shit was really fuckin hot so one kid at school talks alot{as someone said hes a tough guy who can take anything} so i let him have a big glob on a chip it made his eyes water and his face turn red but he overcame it so i gave him a dollar for keepin a straight face. So i brought the capsaicin to school with me. He said this cant be much hotter and he called me a pussy for not letting him try it so i gave him a speck on a plastic wrapper.He put that speck in his mouth and waited and said its not hot, but then all of a sudden his face turned red and he started cussin and goin crazy he was tryin to throw it up but he couldnt he was coughin uncontrollably me and all my friends started laughin onto the floor he started yellin its burnin my whole body i can feel it burnin in my ears this made us almost pass out from laughin. He drank a pop 3 waters and i lost count of the milks he drank he went to the locker room threw up and went home we made him swear he would tell the nurse he had an upset stomach it was worth all 50 dollars we paid him he came back the next day and said his mouth was still hot and he couldnt taste anything that had to be the fuckin funniest thing i have ever seen in my life
Dear Lord,
I need a bottle of Blairs 6am Visine to soothe the grammatical lesions developing in my eyes from reading all these buck toothed redneck scrawls….
Anyone know how to type the english language here?
I think some peoples brains have reduced to the sauces they eat…
i got a thing this stuff in the mail. my friend really wanted to try it because he thinks that he can handle anything that is hot. may he rest in peace he chugged the whole bottle and is now dead.
DAMN THIS SHIT IS HOTT!!! F**K THIS, I’LL NEVER TRY IT AGAIN, I HAD TO GO TO THE DOCTOR TO GET MY TASTEBUDS RELEIVED!!!
this is some very hot stuff, one of my friends shits none stop and is in a coma
Steve,
Judging from your typos, you’re only barely literate yourself. Back off.
In response to comment #10 by Steve Williams. Your comment about putting 7 to 8 crystals in one spot on your tongue is really highly questionable. I reckon that just 1 crystal would burn your tongue, mouth and throat out – and give you a serious medical condition, let alone 7 to 8 crystals. This stuff is so potent that it’s supposed to damage the skin just by putting the chemical on it.
This is my first visit to this blog, and I have to say that those of you that have tried the 16 mil. are nuts, but you still rock! Call me chicken, but 3AM is as high as I’ll go. I’m a collector and can’t bring myself to open things that are made in limited quantities. So, to those of you that have the balls try such things, thank you for sharing the experience as best you can and for making my collection that much more limited.
After reading all of these ridiculas stories of how hot this product is, compared to all the BS that people say that it is not hot, the only reasonable suggestion is to try it myself. Although my wife is sitting here next to me saying that “she does not think so” but we will see sooner or later. I own various bottles of hot sauces. I kinda like to collect them. I have looked up some of my bottles on these websites and found out that some of them are over 1 million SU. The ones that are over 1 million did not seem to have that much of an intensity. I read an article above about a guy and his family using Da Bomb on meat loaf. Saying that he was not daring to use Blair’s. I am in the Army, so I tend to make food for lots of people who have lived in the barracks, and “Hot” Chili seems to be mine and other soldiers favorites. I made a 12 Qt pan of Chili using 3/4 of the Da Bomb hot sauce. All of those hard charging take no shit soldiers fell to the 120,000 SU hot sauce. We love to be daring and try dumb shit so who knows……………maybe Blair’s the ultimate test?
I thought some of you might get a laugh out of this…I sure as hell did. Some guy on eBay is selling a 4AM, claims that there is nothing out there that is hotter, he opened it, used “1.5 tsp”, and wants a starting bid of $1,500.00…LMFAO…here’s a link if you want to check it out
Blair’s 4AM Ebay Auction
Wow, you couldn’t pay me to put that open bottle in my collection…
hahahaha…that guy’s insane. Starting bid of 1500 dollars for 1.5 teaspoon of 4 am. How much is the blair’s 16 million these days? Around 250 bucks, right?
16 millions are retailing anywhere between 200-300. It varies on eBay. Starting bids usually start at 99 and usually end anywhere from 150-200. There was recently an auction for numbers 1 and 999 as a set. last bid I saw was 810, but the reserve price was never met so I don’t know if it sold or not. I keep a close watch on this stuff.
The funny thing is that the open 4AM bottle on ebay is #642. I have #642 4AM that I got from Blairs site when it came out. And, Blair uses #642 on his site as a picture. But, its not the same as the OTHER 2 bottles of #642 4AM. How is there at least 3 bottles of #642 4AM out there????
Scott,
Any chance you could post a pic of that bottle? I’m just currious.
You can e-mail me at fiveohcoupe@hotmail.com and I can send you a pic of it. I have no clue how to post a pic on this site. LOL.
Cool, Nick posted all of the pics on the home page. Thanks Nick!!!!!!!
Thanks Scott, I’ve submitted an e-mail to extremefoods.com…Let’s see what they have to say about it.
Thanks to Nick too. I frequently look around for the best deals on collector sauces, and I love Blair’s sauces in particular, but things are starting to look a little sketchy…My concerns started when I visited Blair’s site, extremefoods.com, and saw that he had two of the ’05 Halloween reserves for sale (#1 & 299) for the outrageous price of $2995 to go up to $3995 after Thanksgiving. Blair did a presale on this reserve (as he does all new reserves) and when it was posted on his site it was “sold out”. Then the 1 and 299 show up (now sold to some guy in the UK)…how many times is it going to be sold out? Then there’s this 4am deal. We all know about that one now (awaiting word from Blair’s). Now he’s released his “lemillion” reserve for Le Gourmet Chef. I ordered 1 and am waiting for it to arrive. Odd thing is, you’d think that if the other reserves Blair has created recently have “sold out” in a matter of minutes, how is it that Le Gourmet Chef is able to continue selling them?…days after it was put on the market, and only “999 produced”…I’m not generally paranoid, but I find this all very disturbing
I dare say if you contacted Blair foods he could tell you exactly who purchased what – complete with their bottle numbers.
I have 2 jars of 16mill and still have ALL packaging and confirmation letter. If I was buying something over $200 on ebay, I would need proof that I was getting geniune stuff.
And no – I havent tried it. The hottest sauce I have ever actually tasted was Daves Insanity – and that was plenty hot enough thanks.
My last point is how taste heat is percieved by the body. Does a sauce that is 1,000,000 SU actually taste twice as hot as one that is 500,000? Or does heat increase on a logarithmic scale for example? In other words, a sauce of 1,000,000 would only be percieved as twice as hot as one that is 100,000 SU.
Of course, its all academic really as its original purpose of being a food additive has been lost and has now become a pure collectors item. And thats why I am keeping mine “mint”.
Amen…that’s all I have to say
Exactly….. it’d be interesting to find out the relationship between perceived heat and the concentration of capsaicin…and maybe volume ingested. Like, if somebody reckons that something like dave’s insanity sauce isn’t hot enough for them, then I’m wondering if it’d be hot enough for them if they down a mouthful into their mouth….straight from the bottle….and then give the mouthful a good swish and good gargle for a couple of minutes …. to get that capsaicin working real good.
Like…if the effect of the hotness is accumulative, then swishing enough of it around in the mouth should do the trick maybe.
I can eat Daves insanity sauce pretty regularly with out getting really hot. But, I have tried the swishing in my mouth thing and it does get quite hot after a while. 🙂 Kinda sneaks up on ya.
I did say that the hottest sauce I had ever tasted was Daves Insanity. Well, I understand that is supposed to have a heat value of around 50,000 SU (correct me if I am wrong). I have another bottle of sauce called “Who dares burns”. I have read that is “supposed” to be rated at 1,000,000 SU, but in my opinion Daves is hotter. So am I wrong or are the figures wrong? Daves is definately hotter in my tasting. Who tests them to get the SU figures? If was an independant test, then I would believe the results, but if they are produced by the manufactureres themselves, then who is to say. If we believed what the top speed was of a car was only on manufactures figures then we would all be driving round in BMW 320’s that could do 300kph. Get my point? I dont think all hot sauce manufacturers are telling us the total truth!
Anybody who claims they can “swish” neat Insanity sauce around in their mouth without feeling pain cannot be playing with a full pack. Madness.
I think there is a limit to what your taste buds can feel. Ive tasted 1 million sauce by itself, tasted like crap but it really didnt feel much hotter than daves insanity or mega death. Also I think it depends on how long you have been eating sauces. You get used to the heat and have to go up in the heat range to get the same burn. Ahhhhhhh, the burn. 🙂
It would be interesting to see if there’s an equivalence thing, where something like 3 drops of sauce X can give a similar fire-alarm effect as 1 drop of sauce Y … etc. In the end, it’s probably all about the quantity of capsaicin in the drop, and how efficiently the capsaicin gets distributed around to the pain receptors. Like the lower the concentration of capsaicin, the bigger the quantity needed…as long as the concentrations between the sauces being compared are high enough in concentration already.
The heat factor is all about the concentration of capsaicin. Kinda like lemonade…if you have a glass of lemonade, and another glass of equal volume, but half lemonade and halfe water, the first glass is going to be far more sour than the second…then there’s straight lemon juice. In that case it’s a concentration of citric acid. Same goes for hot sauces. There’s all kinds of crap in hot sauces, but what determines the heat is the ratio between the capsaicin and everything else in it. That can be determined if the chilis used are deseeded and/or deveined, if the whole chili is plopped in, or if only the seeds and veins are used. I have a couple recipies that I’ve conjured up and experimented with. the parts of the chili that are used make a significant difference in the heat (as well as what kind of chili).
Is chilli pain a cumulative effect right? As in…does the capsaicin bind with pain receptors in the mouth rather than interact with the taste buds themselves? This means, it might be different to the way that we taste food. With food, we just get the flavour and that’s it. But with capsaicin, it interacts with pain receptors and stays there and won’t go away for quite a long time. And the more capsaicin we pass over the pain receptors, the more receptors it binds to. So concentration and quantity is important.
See comment #63.
Ditto.
Also, carefull what you guys say about that guy with the opened 4AM, he might live out in a hicksville town, but he does have internet access and could be reading these comments. Ever see “Deliverence”? Can you squeal like a pig?
LOL, I tried e-mailing him several times but no answer. It would be cool to have 2 #642 4AM’s in my collection. I dont think we will ever know who has the third one in Blair’s pic.
Let’s hope that Blair just happened to take a picture of the same bottle #642 you now have, and just uses that picture. As for the guy on e-bay, that is so bizzare – but anybody can write a number on the side of a bottle with a metallic marker, if you know what I mean. Hope this turns out okay for you, as I own a few of these collectables myself (no 4AM though).
Kurt,
We copared the pictures of all three 4AM #642s and looking at the way the resin solidified on them, all three are different.
compared* Sorry for the typo, I know some of you out there are very critical of such things.
Yes…luckily you corrected yourself quickly enough there Ryan. We would have pounced on that one real good.
Yikes, Ryan! That is definitely disturbing. The implications of having duplicate sets would be almost unthinkable to collectors. I still hope there is a reasonable explanation.
Actually I ended up here originally while doing some research on the subject of the perceived hottness of sauces VS extracts. Many people are saying similar things about the lower rated sauces tasting hotter than extracts with much higher SU ratings. I was trying to find some support for my own personal theory about this, but only seem to run into more questions. But I do have some information that may help clear up some of the mystery with this.
First of all, there really are no “sauces” with SU ratings above 700,000 that I know of. Extracts seem to start at 500,000 (Pure-Cap) and to go all the way to 16,000,000 (6AM). Sauces are water-based. Extracts are actually oil-based, and capsaicin itself does not dissolve in water significantly, but in oil.
I started setting up some experiments to try and compare the hottness of various sauces like “Da Bomb BI” and “Mad Dog 357” by diluting 1/8tsp of sauce in 1/4cup water. This is about a 100:1 dilution which allows tasting a drop on the tongue without saturating the pain receptors so you can really tell which is hotter and also taste it to some extent. Then I got to the “Pure-Cap” (500,000 SU) and “Mad Dog’s Revenge” (1,000,000 SU). These are oils, and will not dissolve in water, so I used vegetable oil. This is where I got a big surprise. I put a drop of the 100:1 diluted MD revenge on my tongue (which should be 10,000 SU or about 4X as hot as Tobasco sauce) and could hardly even tell it was anything but plain vegetable oil! By using my front teeth to squish this into my taste buds, I could eventually feel the heat a bit, but nowhere near 10,000 SU, more like 1,000 (very subjective guess). My first inclination was to think “these extracts are crap, they must be lying about the SU rating”! But now I don’t think so.
To make this long story reasonably short – Hot sauce manufacturers know that extracts don’t mix with their water-based sauces, so they use an additive known as an emulsifier (similar to soap), which causes the extract to suspend in the sauce as millions of tiny droplets. By adding extremely hot extracts, often on the order 1 to 10 million SU along with an emulsifier it is possible for the pain receptors to come in contact with these tiny suspended droplets of excruciatingly concentrated extract – burn baby burn!
In order to try and prove this to myself, I purchased a small bottle of a common food emulsifier known as “tween 80” and used it to force the 1/8 tsp of MD revenge to suspend in water instead of vegetable oil and bingo – it did seem about 4x as hot as Tobasco! So, that’s my theory for what it’s worth. Time for bed.
Ok, I don’t know if I got a bad batch or what (if that’s possible)… but I first tried dissolving a crystal in a 10.75oz “Soup at Hand”. It was spicy, nothing crazy though. Eventually I tried it on my tongue… four times infact… it was pretty hot, but I’ve had much hotter. How big are the crystals supposed to be? Mine were more like tiny flakes, clumped up to form a round “crystal”. Any opinions?
Maybe you got a dud batch or something. I guess you can test your tongue to see if it’s working properly by putting a drop of Blair’s 6 AM on your tongue.
And if your tongue reckons that Blair’s 6 AM is hot, but not that hot, then I think maybe your taste buds are done for.
you got a review on Demon Ichor?
The hardest thing is to open the bottle. Perhaps there’s some simpler way to peel off the wax. I seem to always knock the skull off of the screw.
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I enjoy the Blair’s 4 a.m.; I use a toothpick to move a drop into soup or chilli.
I have some Tabasco brand pepper sauce (I don’t use it; it’s for company.) For more heat, I have Blair’s After Death sauce (with chipotle).
I also enjoy Melinda’s XXXXtra Reserve Sauce [Ingredients: Habañero pepper, carrots, onions, lime juice,vinegar, garlic, salt). This is very flavorful, and I like the heat level.
Another sauce I use is Batch #37 Hot Sauce, Garlic Style (carrots, peppers, water, vinegar…) which is less hot, but quite tasty.
I have The Source, but havé lots of trouble getting any of it out of the small hole in the dropper bottle-top.
I also have Blair’s 6a.m. (unopened; I’ll open it if/when I finish all of my 4a.m.)
Finally, I have Blair’s 16 Million Reserve. It seemed a bit easier to chip off the wax than the 4am (I tried putting the wax in very hot water to soften it). I removed and discarded the filler. I took out the small vial and looked at the crystals through the side. I tightened the cap to keep any crystals from coming out. Looks good!
I plan on using this food additive to make some hot sauce for the use of myself and friends. I already have enough existing hot sauce and extracts to take care of anybody who needs something HOT–the 4am is plenty. 😉
I don’t *collect* these items; I get ’em to enjoy them with food. 🙂
As I’m still quite sensitive, a little bit goes a long way for me.
i tryed this and my tounge hurt almost all day but it was well worth it by the way guy who did the pepperspreay L()L sucks to be u
Can something even be 16 million units?
Ula (1996), op. cit. “The HPLC measures the capsaicinoid(s) in ppm, which can then be converted to Scoville units using a conversion factor of 15, 20 or 30 depending on the capsaicinoid.” This would make capsaicin 15,000,000
http://www.zarc.com/english/cap-stun/tech_info/oc/hplc.html Method 21.1 High Pressure Liquid Chromatography (HPLC)] Manufacturer’s website, describes procedure for measuring capsaicin strength and converting to Scoville units by “assuming” pure capsaicin = 15,000,000 Scoville
anybody bother to read this?
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Do you always have to be negative? This is just one site – there are 100’s more (and books even) that say otherwise. I don’t think Blair would add 1,000,000 just to “pad his numbers.”
if I am reading that correctly pure capsaicin is 15,000,000 scoville. or at least they assume it to be 15,000,000. so it may be possible for something to be 16 million, if the assumption is off. we can always have blair tell us how he got the 16 million reading I guess
just wanted to start a conversation… not being negative.
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It is a reasonable question Thak! I’m confident that there is a reasonable answer too.
Found the thread 🙂
As I understand it… you can have something that measures 16,000,000 SHU. HPLC measures parts per million and so that, by definition, is topped out at 1 million. Where the range comes in, is in defining the conversion of ppm to Scoville. It is generally, but not universally (as with everything else in this industry!!) accepted that human perception of heat starts at 15 to 16 Scoville units. In trying to compress the Scoville scale to ppm you take the base unit (15 or 16) and you find that the top end (as converted from ppm) would then be 15 mil or 16 mil. Make sense? If it were generally agreed that the human perception started at 20 (being the Scoville equivalent of ‘0’) then the top would be 20 mil if converted to ppm. This also implies then that the human perception threshold is 1 ppm for capsaicin.
Of course, this could also all be nonesense 🙂
i had to read it 2 times before it made any sense, so basically the answer to thaks question is yes something can be 16 million, if it is assumed that pure capsaicin is 15 0r 16 million did I get it?
I guess it all comes down to the multiplier. Interesting that 1.5 is the norm. I’ve seen so many sites that say 16 Mil and had a discussion in another forum about it only going up to 15 Mil. Heaven forbid me to taste test a claimed 15 against a 16, esp since no 15 mils exist. HPLC is expensive too. The bottom line; Blair’s 16 Mil Reserve is beyond…
I think I’ll just take the name at face value, I do think you brought up an interesting point about so many differences in whether or not it’s 15 or 16
The lack of standardization in this industry is endemic- one only has to look at chile pepper naming to see a legion of examples. These naga things that seem to crop up about once a year are another. Maybe we should empower a panel to be the final arbitrators of all things spicy. I’m only half kidding here- I seriously doubt any other naga (or possibly Savina(R) for that matter) will ever be close to the ones that were submitted for claims. A basic tennet(sp) of science is that it should be observable AND repeatable.
Bottom line is, my money’s on Blair… in more ways than one 😉
I agree, and was just hoping for some interesting conversation on the matter, which I received, and appreciate. No doubt Blair has done a remarkable job producing the most unbelievable high scale “heatness”. My question was only perplexing due to the fact I found other sources of material. I’m glad I asked about it, and enjoyed hearing your comments.
But it may be a never answered question, because who’s really gong to test this. I wil pay and record anybody willing to take the Blair’s 16 Mil and drink 16 million unit of water to see if it’s no longer “tasty”!
my question to that is, is there anyone that can handle 16mil units of water?
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would love to see anybody try, just let me know, I’ll be there with my cam and record it for all here to see. What a great post that would be!
Well, I’d be more than willing to do it, as I’ve done it before 🙂 Come on over to the Open Fields and we’ll do it again. I’ll do both the 16 mil cap and 16 mil units of water.
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ok we have to make a weekend thing out of this, I want to see it. 😀
and I am not saying that beccause I don’t think you can, I know you can, I just want to be there so I can say ” i saw him do it” 😀
This is sort of one of those ‘bar bet’ things. As the units are not defined, it can be one grain of the 16 mil cap & 16 mil grains of water would then not be an overlarge amount 🙂 Grams is another deed entirely 😉 By all means, come on over for the weekend. I’m sure as it gets closer there’ll be more posting on it. Might even talk Nick into making it a thread. Makes for a lot of travelling in September though 🙂
son of a (bleep) september? man well you let me know when and I might be able to do it,,,,then again I may not be able to 🙁
Wonderful, she’s starting to make travel plans without me!
what’s the date and address the cam needs to be at? I can’t wait to be there….I Will be there if the 16 Mil goes into your mouth for an interview thread… (tell Nick you want to email me…)
Let’s do this.
Dates are Sept 23 & 24- the week after Houston. Location is somewhere near Indy. This is the same event that Roker on the Road just aired on FoodTV last week.
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thak, he’s done it before, I tell you, the man ain’t right!!!
Impressive though, he’s much more of a “moderate” when it comes to hot sauce. He’ll eat habs, but prefers the chipotle.
I’ll eat habs only if there’s money on the table 🙂 Extracts don’t bother me anywhere near as much as they do.
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And to think, we eat them for love… I don’t like to eat extract at all!!!
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John were dishing the pain today with your Talon. Jersey Death. Da Bomb Final Answer. Plus about 20 other sauce.It’s cost me 6 tee shirts already. Bret
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Same here, it’s really kind of weird.
I think it’s volume+heat=pain. That’s why you can try some of the hottest sauces and be okay the next morning, but eat half a bottle of a medium-high heat natural Hab sauce and you’re cryin’.
I just figured it was under the ‘everybody’s different’ thing 🙂
Your explanation Lee, sounds as good as any.
It is just a theory, but I am currently paying for the Hula Girl I ate last night. Sorry, I had to do it….
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Was it that chile specific winner – Habanero Chipotle?
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I know I am not feeling well, I was going to ask if he was on vacation in hawaii 😐
So, someone takes a naturally occurring chemical and concentrates it as much as possible at great expense, you then pay $200 for this chemical, which you then dilute into food, returning it to it’s naturally occurring concentrations.
I like beer, and I like whisky a lot. However, I would never buy a bottle of pure alcohol, and I certainly wouldn’t buy a bottle of pure alcohol and mix it half and half with whisky-flavoured water.
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Actually most people pay $200 and never open it 🙂
I really want to get another one of these so I can try some!!!!
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First off,.. great site. Reading all of your posts have really help. But first off I’d like to comment on the fool who claims to have put several cap crystals on his tounge,… that is just impossible. My two top hot sauces are Blair’s Mega Death and the 1 Million SU Extract. A nickle sized amount of the 1 Mil SU extract on a Ritz cracker was enough to take my breath away. I was dancnig around my kitchen, kicking and yelling so much my wife nearly called 911 but I took the phone away. There is no way you ate as many crystals as you claim.
But now onto the point I originally thought, and the reason I quoted Kurt:
So if by adding emulsifier to a store bought hot sauce, say McElhenny’s or Franks, would we actually increase the heat?
By what I read, the emulsifier is made to suspend the cap in oil. So by adding emulsifier to Franks, it would centralize the “hot” in the sauce and make it more prominent. Yes/no?
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Well, I think I’m the person you’re referring to as a fool. While you might be right about the ‘fool’ part, you are absolutely wrong about the not trying pure cap crystals 🙂 We’re talking about amounts that fit on the flat end of a tooth pick which isn’t a great amount. Don’t think that because you whimpered like a puppy, everyone else will 😉 “Hot” is never defined the same by any two people. Some folks think ketsup is a hot sauce, while others think that hot sauce is ketsup. I might have a reputation as a lot of things, but ‘liar’ isn’t one of them 🙂
On to your answer. Extracts are mostly vegetable oil and capsaicin. Extracts and water don’t mix unless they have an emulsifier (think food grade soap) which will allow the mix to mix. Since ‘regular’ hot sauces do not have the oil/capsaicin mix, you gain nothing by adding the emulsifier. A really clear and excellent illustration can be made by looking at CaJohn’s ‘Magma’. It is a water/vinegar based sauce with oil resin in it. They don’t mix giving it the really neat effect of an old lava lamp when turned upside down (oil floats). If you wanted to ruin the bottle (in more ways then one) you could see the effect of an emulsifier by adding a few drops of Dawn dishwashing soap (or similar) and see what happens to the mix.
Questions class? 🙂 Hope this helps!
I wasn’t referring to you as being a liar,… but do keep in mind you can stretch the truth without actually lying. But in my defense, well actually yours, you should have first stated the size of these crystals, as I did not ask. When I hear “crystal” I think someting on or about the size of a grain of salt. 5-7 flakes of a CRUSHED grain is more acceptable.
Regarding me “whimpering like a puppy”,. damn straight I did. I have no hesitation in admiting “that shit kick my ass”. I probably took way too much and paid the price for it. I had my neighbors and friends try it but recommended they used much less. Even though I am a chilehead from way back… 1 mil SU can still get to tastebuds and pain receptors I thought were burned off years ago.
But enough banter and bitching,… even though I been a fan of really hot hot sauce, it hasn’t been til recently I’ve actually invested in the real killer stuff (as list in my last post). I figured that since Franks and McElhenny were not an extract based product, adding the emulsifier would pull all of the “hot” out of the bottle and you’d start seeing layers. Once the layers were established, you could syphon it and get some killer hot McElhennys.
I’ll probably get the Magma hot sauce soon. Best to leave that one alone and start an unopened collection. 🙂
Trust me- I’ve whimpered a time or two as well 🙂 No shame in that!
Just didn’t know how else to interpret someone saying ‘no way’ when I said I did 😉
In a manner of speaking, there’s really nothing to ‘pull out’ in a bottle of Franks. It runs about 8% pepper solids with the rest being vinegar. You *could* eventually pull out enough material to make your own extract, but the steps and labor invovled would be daunting at the least. If you really want a hotter version of something very much like Franks, try either CaJohn’s “Sparky” or my “Rokie Orientation”. They run closer to 50% pepper solids and have lots of garlic also 🙂
My 4 year old son got into the bottle and ended up eating some of it and rubbing some of it in his eyes. We had to take him to the hospital, but he did not make it. This stuff is no laughing matter.
Ok, just kidding about that last post, I just wanted to screw with you people. I don’t even have a son. ok, I know it was wrong.
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Get the f*&! out of here!
You got a messed up sense of humor. Take it elsewhere.
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I am going to have to say I agree with Lee on this one, perhaps get a moderator to delete those comments there, just not right.
it’s a little irresponsible to even joke about something like that, Ryan and I have educated our children on how dangerous they can be. I agree with Lee and pmac, please take it elsewhere.
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as in “NOT funny”
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maybe then I should have originally said “phrase” LOL
I will agree with the above posts. I have several children, all of whom I love more than anything else in this world. To joke about such things is horrible, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Moderators: Perhaps this should be a controlled site,.. that is, one that must be “logged into”. Granted, I’m quite the newbie when compared to most of you,… but that way people can be controlled, or atleast, random people just can’t hop on and leave ridiculous posts.
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Kahlis, welcome to the blog, and we do have a moderator BUT if we had to log in everytime, we could not make this site as successful as it is with Random people making posts, and most of the time none of the random posters say anything in poor taste, they are few and far between. I can’t say that about some of us regs 😛 (just kidding)
Although Tyler’s post is perceived by a vast majority of the population as “inappropriate”, so what? Do we really need a moderator to determine it as such? Lighten up people, there are idiots in this world, let them be idiots. Personally I enjoy my ever-decreasing civil liberties that are afforded to me in this great land….of course I mentioned ever-decreasing because of the ever-increasing populas of right-infringing liberals in this country (think Jesse Jackson!) Anyway on the lighter side, is there any way to make some of these extreme heat sauces hurt a little less when they “come out the other end”?
Hahahaha. This thread is ridiculous with all these one posters and people that don’t know what they’re talking about.
wow..this crap is the hottest crap on earth….on little crystal and my hands started shaking, i had the sweats for hours on end and my tongue felt like it has been stamped with a hot iron..dude..WARNING..DO NOT BUY IT IF U HAVE HEART CONDITIONS..this stuff will mess u up! i can still feel my tongue burning from the inside out..good luck with anyone who’s up for the challenge..i was..and i admit..i regret..lol
So what you are saying is that you … uhh… ate crap?
.. 😀 eww your gross.
lol
WTF! this stuff is totally insane.
I was shooting 10ft. flames from my arse for days…infact.. it made my hole weak for a whole week.
on tasting it, i was sweating and cussing like i had just hit my finger with a sledgehammer, but this was way more intense. dudes steer clear of this shit if you value your essentail organs…like your eyes, mouth, heart , kidneys etc.
This stuff is way more toxic than the incredible hulks faeces after he had recieved that dose of weird radiation crap.
It probably does your internals just as much damage as if you had eaten a live porcupine stuffed with a skunks stink bag.
You have been warned dudes….this shit should be illegal
i forgot to add the bit where even after a week later i was walking around like john wayne as i felt that someone had just kicked me in the ass at full force with a cowboy boot. (you know, the types with the shiny metal end)
I seriously considered empting my freezer of its entire icecube collection down the back of my underpants.
DAMN it was HOT!!
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Creator, this sounds like some of your work! 😉
This old blog post is on Reddit.. Sudden Death is good enough for me.
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I can definately vouch for the Creator’s work, be prepared if you have the guts?
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LOL! Nah, the 16 million stuff is in a complete league of its own. I own one of these beauties, but also have a few of Muso’s pure stuff. I took a crystal or two of Muso’s stuff, and put into our little ultrasonic machine, so as to break down the cystal into micro-crystals. I added some of our ZERO stuff to it, but it just sits on the shelf. There ain’t NO WAY I’m eating that stuff. I guess I’m kinda saving for a party when we end up with a guest that won’t leave.
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As for our stuff, it’s hot, very hot, but not over the edge (well, maybe to some). I was impressed at the amount some people have eaten on wings, which just makes me want to go to “the next step”. To answer DK’s question about test marketing the “point something” products, you have proven to have clairvoyant powers there Gator Man.
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Well, I know where you can get a couple of guinea pigs for testing the POINT products 👿
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Creator, I wasn’t refering to the 16 million itself, just the result as commented by scu1pture. You said yourself that you can be quite the prankster. Just thought that the eloquent nature of his description fit with what would be the result of a Defcon Creator prank. 🙂
And as far as being clairvoyant, more like observant. I noticed the gleam in your eye at the Deathmatch! 😀
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Gotcha. Yeah, a good capsaicin-based practical joke is needed every once in a while.
As for the gleam in my eye, I’m thinking that was gas. 😀
hey dudes…im keeping shtump about this prank crap. (will the real slim scu1pture please stand up)
this blair stuff is for real dudes. ive gotten a hotline to the fire brigade and to dr.procter incase i ever decide to feel suicidal again and try another few flakes of this crystalised essence of fury.
I thought that i had balls of steel when i went up against this minature minx…but it proved to be a mighty cat on steroids that left me like jerry lee…with great balls of fire.
scu1pture
scu1pture, you got a way with words, that’s for sure! I don’t know about balls of fire, but you got more nuts than I to try the 16 mil! Two words for ya, Milk Enema. Don’t know if it works, but you seem like the perfect person to try it! 😉 Seriously dude, you got me ROTFL with those comments. 😀
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Yeah, we’re up to .4, I think on a good night we’re even ready to go for a Zero…yes just 1….
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Saturday night with NY’s finest was the perfect chance for a Cretor prank too….
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hey dude,
i remember robert de niro when he says “you gotta be ready to split at any time any place when the heat arrives” in his acclaimed performace in HEAT…man that dude never experienced the heat of 16M. that dude could have run to the ends of the earth and the heat would still have firmly stuck in his ass.
No amount of milk enema would have done anything douse the flames licking at his sphincter….man… he would have had to stuff the whole cow into his ring of fire, to take his mind off the pain.
its really that bad. i even tried going to ER for treatment, but the nurse could not figure out how to put the banadages onto my a-hole. its severe dude.
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Not a problem, perhaps the next Defcon Day. Don’t have one slated yet, but then again, they sometimes pop up rather quickly. The Alley has a new owner, really cool guy. We discussed another one sponsored by Budweiser this time around closer to football (wing) season. I’ll keep everyone updated. Perhaps we can get Jimmy to show up for some added “culture”.
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So if I added an extract AND an emulsifier to a food, it would be hotter than if I added only the extract? Say to a stew or meatloaf or something?
Feeling confused and a little stupid. :/
ok what is ur recommended hot sauce of heat index value at 20$ 30$ i saw that one million sauce on that sweet and spicy website and right now the hottest hot sauce ive had is at local restraunts and god i would love a bottle of that 16 million reserve mostly to just say i have but i know it will be taht little red button in my head with a do not touch sign that i will most likely end up igniting some kind of nuclear hazard if i somehow come up with 300 dollars of blow away money i just may try and go for it
That’s one LOOONG sentence my friend! 😯
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Keep an eye to eBay- I’ll have a continuous string of 16 mils for auction from now till Doomsday I think 😉 You just might get one 🙂
Just picked some of this stuff up what should i eat it with? gimme some ideas
A fair amount of alcohol (for the excuse) beforehand, and a lot of ice cream (for the day after) for the chaser 🙂
As technical grade cap shouldn’t have much flavor on it’s own, add it to whatever you like in order to kick the heat up ‘a bit’ 😉
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Jim, I’ll look for your auction, I see your post was a while back, otherwise email me.
THANKS !!!
my mate sweats eating salt n vinegar crisps. cant wait to put a load of this in his food/on his toilet paper/over his pillow
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Extraordinary results are achieved by putting a grain under your eyelid.
Kris?
Just got home from the hospital. Been there for 3 days. Had to get stomach pumped. Blisters in and around mouth. Ulcers. Headaches. Very cruel joke, gone extremely wrong. Someone slipped a whole damn vial into my pot of chili at a chili cook-off. (Found the vial on the ground. Wish I knew who did it. I would kill them) Tasting the chili. One big spoonfull. (about 3 tablespoon fulls) Heat. Heat. and More Heat. Pain. Pain. and More Pain. (Throat, head, mouth, and stomach pain) Throwing up. Passing out. Waking up in a hospital bed with tubes down my throat. (Can’t eat solid food for a month. Nothing but Boost and Ensure.) Doctor told me I’m lucky to be alive. Still in pain. Why do they sell this? Who in their right frame of mind, would put a vial of this in someone’s food. Cops are investigating. If they find the person who did it, they will charge him/her with attempted murder. Who in their right frame of mind would actually buy this?
Well, aside from some brainless idiot who decided to play a joke on you with something that is not a toy, most of us have purchased it for the sole reason of having it in our collection, on our Shelf of Doom. There are many food items that are sold that can cause serious harm, look at nutmeg for instance. This benign little spice adds a holiday taste to our egg nog, but ingest a full nut (ground), and you have a good chance of not waking up in the morning. Whoever did this to you should pay the consequences, and hopefully you can beat them to a bloody pulp.
I wish you speedy recovery, and can only imagine the pain involved.
I’m very sorry to hear that, I hope you have a quick recovery and feel better soon. 🙂 Like the creator said, most people purchase this for collecting and putting on the shelf of doom (or normal wall) but sometimes you have what I call “Stupid People” who don’t realize what they are doing and the conquences that it can have. Its not like this can be used for some sort of sick game, but is something that can hurt you. I never knew capsaicin could do that much harm, and I hope that anyone else who ever thought of doing this, learn’s from this unfortunate man’s experience.
Hope you get well!
i need to find some HOT HOT sauce for my boss in the cleveland area and don’t want to settle for the standard stuff. any ideas on where to look in the cleveland area for rare, HOT sacue?
Chili’s Fire Pit in Mentor
P’Zazz in Rocky River
ok i bought some of this off of ebay, and it isnt hot. I have no idea why/how. It might not be the right stuff, but i dont see how i would get a “fake” vile of this stuff.
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Unfortunately, tastebuds NEVER grow back.
you have won my heart.a very close freind of mine and i are avid heat -to- thecore lovers.he managed to luck across some ofthis magnificant cap crystals,the 16 million reseve.to this day he vows to end his hottness career.me onthe other hand,as a true to heart heat lover,i persoaly give a SPECIAL HEART WARMING(along with ather parts)thank you.
if you want to actually try the stuff you can buy it on ebay for about $70, its not by blairs and its in a very plain non collective container. blairs is more because its a collectable
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You’ll probably kill him.
dude putting stuff on a friends food will be the most hilarious thing. i mean look what happened to that eric guy fron arizon!!! hell i haven’t tried the capsuled stuff yet(my parents dont want me to die) but i’ve tried the sauce. i really like hot sauce,all kinds… but i got my bro to bring some home on a chip and i was talking to my friend aliza on the phone. i was like what the heck and put it in my mouth. at first there was nothin but then my mouth was burning so much. i was friggin screaming and rolling on the floor for half an hour!!!! dude my friend was crackinup too!!!! i had to chug like a whole gallon of milk and it still wouldn’t go away!! now for comment # 36, WHAT THE FRIGGIN HELL!!!!!! FOR ONE THING HOW CAN YOU GET PEPPER SPRAY MIXED UP WITH BREATH SPRAY?!?!?!?! EVEN IF YOU ARE FRIGGIN DRUNK!!!! I WOULD HAVE BEEN LAUGHING AT U FOR HOW FRIGGIN STUPID THAT IS!!!!!! i also havesome things to say for comment # 50 and #58. for #50, dude ur friends got some guts and if i were you i’d give him a hell of a lot of money for chuggin the whole friggin bottle as soon as he gets out of freakin coma!! for#58, i would love to be the one to play that joke on a cop!!!!! HOLYSHIT THAT WOULD BE FREAKIN HILARIOUS!!!! and if you do do it and get the tape please tell me and ill give u my email so u can send it to me.
And you wonder where the lacking side of the gene pool comes from.
lol
THIS STUFF IS NOT HOT!!! We all put our money together and bought a bottle off sweatnspice.com for… YES $300.00. It was a waste of money. WHO EVER SAID THEY PUT IN ONE FLAKE INTO TOMATO SOUP WAS F-ING LYING. WE ALL PERSONALLY ATE 7-10 FLAKES AND IT WAS NOT THAT HOT. WE EVEN BOILED TOMATO SOUP JUST LIKE THAT GUY DID AND THE SOUP WAS NOT THAT HOT. THIS STUFF IS FAKE, DON’T WASTE YOUR MONEY… IF THERE IS A SECRET ON HOW TO COOK THIS STUFF TO GET THE HEAT OUT OF THE FLAKES PLEASE POST…
The person who put the flake in soup is a top notch chili head who gives his educated opinion. I think the flake is you.
Well said Jack.
I also followed Nick Lindauer’s instructions to the T. I even tried it twice, adding 5-7 crystals the second time and ended up with the same result, plain tomato soup.
i have just created a bottle of 20,987,000 scoville units and dont you jerks tell me that u cant get anything stronger than 16 mill
mwah ha ha ha
WTF? I bought a bootle of Blair’s 16 million and it is NOT hot! Everyone claims it’s the hottest spice on the planet yet none of you have tried it!
If you have, then you would know that eating the crystals is no big deal.
And to the staff of http://www.hotsauceblog.com, STOP DELETING my comments, or send me my 300 bucks back!
Sounds like we have 2 more generallee’s….lol
You guys sure you aren’t getting SU’s confused with BPM units?
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I will buy 10 case of it for Jungle Jim’s….
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Shores –
First, none of your comments were deleted – they were in moderation until I approved them this morning. You should see them as everyone else does now.
Second, the HSB didn’t sell you the 16 million and I can attest that what I tired almost 2 years ago was plenty hot. Since you’ve already opened and tried the product, I suggest you contact ExtremeFood.com and let them know that the batch that you received was not hot.
Iv’e got a habanero garden bigger than Eden. I’ve tasted the elusive Bhut Jolokia (ordered from NMSU chili pepper institue). So i decided to purchace Blair’s 16 million from http://www.sweatnspice.com, after a long fight to get the botlle open the first thing i did was put a crystal on my toungue. The result…. NOTHING. So i made some tomato soup just like Nick Lindauer istructed, the result… NOTHING. I want my money back!
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Shores, do you have pics of your garden? I’ve never seen Eden, I thought it was a mythical place that according to some doesn’t exist. I’d love to see your hab garden and how you Bhut plants turned out. If you have that large of a garden, I know there are people that would be interested in purchasing the Bhut peppers from you.
Secondly, I’ve tried 16 million flakes and they f*cked up my respiratory system and put me in the hospital overnight. I eat VERY hot products and make the hottest in Canada right now, so I can take the heat.
Perhaps as Nick suggested you received a bad batch. I’m sure the crew over at Blair’s would be able to help you with that.
Thirdly, and please don’t take any offense, have you ever been brain injured? The reason I ask, I have a couple of customers that have been in motorcycle crashes and nothing is too hot for them. They’ve tried everything from Mad Dog Revenge, The Source and even Blair’s 16 million crystal (I got mine from Muso) and the crystal did effect them, but not like it effects most people.
Perhaps you just have an iron tongue? Hard to say either way without hearing more about you.
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That wasnt a crystal. That was the vial. There is a vial with the crystals in it…. You need to unscrew the cap of the vial (please goolge how to do that, i’m no expert).
Man, I crack myself up.
Uncle Big, Eden might be a mythical place but i like to imagine that my garden would look something like it. In regards to the bhut, my plants haven’t produced any fruit yet, they’re only about a year old. I got family in NM who sent me just the bhut pepper itself, and when i took a bite i thought i was going to die. When my plants do produce, i’ll let you know whether it’s enough to sell or not.
2nd, Iv’e contacted Blair’s and we’re working on whether it was just a bad bottle or not.
Ha, Iron toungue… Most women think i do but this is’nt the case, i found a friend crazy enough to try it first.
Fat Kid Sauces… Dont waste any more space on this page.
To Nick, thanks for the info, I’ll take your word for it.
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Shores,
We all have our own personal Eden’s that’s for sure. I’m glad you have found solitude in one of your own.
Keep us apprised on the Bhuts. We just worked up a new mash with the Dorset Naga, and holy sh*t it is hot. Incredibly hot. Impressively hot. It’s going in the new batch of Serial Killer for sure.
Good luck with Blair’s crew, they’re all very cool and will hook you up I’m sure.
Thanks for not getting pissy about my “brain injured” question. It was legit and I wasn’t picking a fight. I would never do that 😉
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I guess you missed the “man I crack myself up”……. it’s called a joke…… You come on here blasting the blog for selling you something without trying to privately contact them (who didnt sell it to you in the first place). Didnt contact the who actaully sold it you (they are two different entities the blog and SNS) , and didnt contact the manufacturer…… And i’m wasting space……
Now you are cracking me up.
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So are you a farmer AND a chef?
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Are you talking to me? Are you talking to me? There’s no one else around here, so you must be talking to me? 🙂
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What the hell happened there, wrong quote.
Disregard my perfect Al Pacino impersonation.
Dude, first of all, in order for it to be a joke it has to be funny. Second, I contacted the dealer and manufacturer a couple weeks ago and hadn’t recieved any feedback. Since “blasting the blog”, i’ve got a few opinions and pieces of advice that I was looking for, and relax man… take up all the space you want.
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So now I can take up space???? Which is it? Or is it that I just can’t take up space on this page? Oh never mind.
So after contacting them both a couple of weeks ago – magically, they both got back to you today. That’s fantastic.
Hope it all works out. Blair is pretty good about these things…..
Is your first name Paulie? That would explain a few things….
I know I’m taking up space, but I am a big guy.
well I just bought a bottle from ebay, I have heard alot of negative feedback, posative, and everything in between. I have found this page helpful and I have just a few questions to those who are more experienced with cap crystals. if it is as hot as it is claimed to be, then straight consumption seems rather irrational, it would have to be mixed. I was under the impression that straight cap could kill you?? Next, if you were to drop a crystal into a large jar of say pace picante or something similar (salsa another hot sauce ect..) would the resulting effect make the salsa hotter or do the crystals need to be dissolved? Lastly, lets say, because no one in this house eats hot things except me, and maybe a friend or two every once in a while when their feelin froggy. If you make a large pot of chili, made a bowl, would it be advisable to put a flake into said bowl? I want to try it, but I don’t want to wind up with a medical condition like a few of these posters. I would apprecaite real answers, from the people who have obviously tried the 16 mil, and aren’t stupid saying things like “Oh I use 6am like steak sauce”. Thank you for your time it took to read this post, and I hope for educated answers.
They say to dilute a single crystal into about a 1/2gallon to a gallon for extreme heat, and read what Nick said… It’s important to note that the heat will not distribute throughout the soup right away, you need to continue to heat it up, preferably while stirring with a disposable spoon. After about 5 mintues of boiling, my soup was ready to go.
Let me know how it turns out… I’m still waiting to hear back from Blair’s about mine.
WOW, I get away from the hot stuff for a short time and it looks like I miss all the fun !!
Well, the chili would be for the household, I don’t cook, so are you saying I shouldn’t put a little into a single bowl? and what about the effects in a salsa or another hot sauce? Does this have to be heated to dissolve?
or perhaps some tostitos scoops and salsa dipping a chip and putting a small flake in the middle? I understand how hot this stuff is supposed to be, but alot of opinions here make me question….. But I have also read straight cap can kill you so I dunno if I wanna test it, but anyone who has tried it, how many different dishes did you test it in and how many were “too hot” to eat?
yea I got my bottle from ebay today, didn’t want to open it. But I let temptation overpower me. After a long fight with the wax, I open the bottle to find that my cork was broken, that irritated me. I took out the small vial of cap, and after alot of contemplating grabed a toothpick. I licked the end stuck it in the small opening and brought out a little of the powder inside. I proceeded to roll the toothpick onto my tounge and let the cap swish around in my mouth and roll on my tounge for a while. And well, It was hot, not horribly, you feel it in the back of your throat when you swallow, and on the tip of your tounge, and you feel it for a while, but I honestly didn’t think it was so bad. I mean, I have had extracts that burn your mouth for a half hour. I am a little dissapointed actually, but I think i’m going to try putting it in something I cook, and try it like that. I honestly thought this would be alot worse, I was expecting tears and searing pain, but it was not bad.
I will never try it but the impression I get is that it needs to be heated up before the heat is really unleashed! Goodluck on that 🙂
I hated to break the seal, now I need another bottle to display
Blair warned me of the heat level of this item many times. He talked about having put a small speck, a piece about the size of a salt crystal, on his tongue and apparently his tongue was wounded for a few days afterward.
that quote just doesn’t add up. I covered the tip of a toothpick. Belive me I don’t claim to have an iron tounge either, i’ve tried everything from da bomb to mad dog inferno/357, mega death, and yea, they were all hot. However these crystals didn’t even require anything to drink with. maybe i’ll try the tomato soup experiment
yo Dan, i had the same experience. You might of bought a bad bottle, i sent mine back to sweatnspice and they’re currently testing it to find out why it’s NOT hot. I’ll let you know when i find out but you should contact whoever sold it to you, they’ll probably hook you up for the inconvenience.
it was someone off ebay. Man I have tried this in 3 differant bowls of top ramen, something simple ya know. once was plain, the second I added a little olive oil thinking it might help, and third was plain but with a few spices, a little garlic, chili powder and a dash of garlic salt and lemon pepper. and I poured cap powder into the lid easily covering half the bottom of the lid. I regularly use mad dog inferno at the moment, till I run out, on virtually everything, and dare I say, that that 90,000 SU bottle is hotter then this stuff. I was disapointed, hopeful at first, but now, I think all the warnings, the dilution of one per thousand on the bottom of the bottle, and the sticker, are meant to keep you from actually trying this and finding out that it is not that bad. I would hate to think that it is just an elaborate hoax to get a laugh at anyone willing to pay 200-300 dollars for a bottle of something they won’t open. They didn’t think everyone would just be looking to collect this bottle? that some people are stupid enough to ignore blatent warnings that basically read “do not consume” and eat some of it? the answers should be obvious to each. and once again, I have poured out my fair share of sweat and occasionally tears over hot sauce. I guess my next step is going to have to be the vial itself into a 5 gal. pot of chili…….
Man, I tried this stuff one time and my butt started to bleed. When it dripped into the toilet the water started to boil. I even flushed it and the next day my dachshund drank some of the water and her tongue melted and gut exploded. I should’ve wore gloves because I picked up the pieces of gut and weenie dog chunks, my hands burned down to nubs. This stuff is HOT!!! Butt bleedin, dog bustin, hand burnin, water boilin HOT!!!!!
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I have eaten alot of this stuff and both were from different ends of the globe so I think it is safe to say that it was pure 16.
I think what is happening with this stuff is that it is a product that may at one time been tested as 16 million but somewhere down the line it was made incorectly and sold to alot of people ..??
I can list 5 sauces that are in front of me that all are way hotter than crystal.
If crystal was cheaper I would use it alot .
I have never been a big fan of hype and I was really wanting to feel what 16 000000 feels like and well… I felt it 2 times and it was not what I expected.
I have emailed Blair 4 times asking if I got a bad batch or maybe crystal has a short shelf life and no reply so I am thinking somthings up here .
shayne
you could of used the soup as a hot sauce by adding vinegar and garlic would be a good base for hot wings yah! yes i know habanero is spell wrong in my e mail it was my brother that made the e mail for me
Hot!!! my 14 year old daughter eats this stuff like it is going out of fashion. This stuff is not hot to a chillihead!
Goodonya from Downunder (Sydney)
Bruce
Flavor is not possible when the chemical heat is all there is.
yuck…I like amazona’s yellow hot pepper sauce, incredible flavor
at 2.99 per bottle….shhhh…don’t let the word get out.
this stuff isn’t even hot.
fucking n00bs.
You guys are all pussies because I downed a whole bottle of this stuff.
This stuff is hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m not frickin kidding!
I would never pay that much for a vial of something, even if it is so very hot… for the simple fact of — I wouldn’t want this stuff getting into someone elses dirty little hands and into my soup. I read the post from 06 about someone slipping a vial into someone’s chili. Case and point. I love hot food… and when I say hot I mean HOT… I’ll crush up whole habaneros and eat them, but I would not touch pure cap if my life depended on it. As many many others have said, this stuff is no joke.
And if it really has the effects it had on a previous poster that sent him/her to a hospital, then this stuff should be illegal.
> If you know where to get your hands on one – please let us know!
Poppamies in Finland has the vial number 937 for sale for 999€.
http://www.poppamies.fi/product_info.php?cPath=47&products_id=255
i have one
I have a bottle if anyone is interested in buying it. Make me an offer.
I have a bottle of Belairs hot sauce it is reserve one of one it was specially made for me by Blair himself he gave it to me as a donation for a charity benefit that was thrown for me I just was wondering if it had any value to it
i have a bottle for sale any interested
If you still have it I am interested.
I have bottle #166 still in the original packaging. I would be willing to part with it for the right offer.